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Postby Sundiata » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:29 pm

Auzkhia wrote:
Sundiata wrote:In your experience, what are a few ways to help people who experience gender dysphoria feel safe and supported?

Let them transition, affirm their identity, and give them money.

What are some good places for me to donate money?
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:33 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:Let them transition, affirm their identity, and give them money.

What are some good places for me to donate money?

assuming my paypal is not an option (;-;), https://transrightshumanrights.carrd.co/ has a list
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Postby Daves Computer » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:33 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:don't have anything nice to say? don't talk.

What nice phrases are usually appreciated?

I'm speaking as an ally, not someone with gender dysphoria. So please take my words with a pinch, no, a handful of salt. But generally, reminding them that you're there for them (of course, only if you are) can mean so much. Having someone to vent towards is always so therapeutic. And when they do speak to you about any issues, try to be a kind and active listener. Reassuring them that they are appreciated and valid is more help than you could possibly imagine. You don't always have to pose a solution to their complaints and sometimes it might seem condescending for a complete outsider to suggest an easy answer to their problems when they haven't been in their shoes.

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Postby Sundiata » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:33 pm

Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:
Sundiata wrote:What are some good places for me to donate money?

assuming my paypal is not an option (;-;), https://transrightshumanrights.carrd.co/ has a list

Thank you very much.
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:36 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:don't have anything nice to say? don't talk.

What nice phrases are usually appreciated?

basically just believe/support them and don't assume that not understanding something means it's fake. obviously call them what they ask you to. it/it's pronouns are a whole different rabbit hole that i will not be addressing at the moment
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Postby Wink Wonk We Like Stonks » Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:37 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Wink Wonk We Like Stonks wrote:assuming my paypal is not an option (;-;), https://transrightshumanrights.carrd.co/ has a list

Thank you very much.

glaad to help.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:24 am

New Hampshire joins the list of states with bill banning trans athletes

Rep. Rick Ladd, (R), who chairs the committee and is the prime sponsor of the bill, said if enacted, it would support opportunities for girls as enacted in Title IX, the U.S. federal law that prohibits sex discrimination in federally funded education programs, "not biological men who claim to be women." He also said it would strengthen a state anti-discrimination law protecting students in public schools. Ladd said requiring sex-generated teams to include people of "self-proclaimed gender identity that does not match the biological gender" would quite possibly reverse the steady increase women's participation and interest in sports because of Title IX
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:32 am

Arcturus Novus wrote:Eugh, with the fucking trans Strasserist flag, really?


wtf i love the trans thread now
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:32 am

So, OP, What made you pick this flag?

It is definitely not a flag that can reasonably include all people that are not cis.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:36 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:So, OP, What made you pick this flag?

It is definitely not a flag that can reasonably include all people that are not cis.


Enhanced representation for a marginalised and misunderstood subgroup. Intersectionality at work, my dear Blaatson.
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Postby New Jacobland » Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:38 am

Just to clarify:
I've seen people say they are a transgender female. Does this mean they were born male but identify as female or vice versa?
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:46 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:So, OP, What made you pick this flag?

It is definitely not a flag that can reasonably include all people that are not cis.


Enhanced representation for a marginalised and misunderstood subgroup. Intersectionality at work, my dear Blaatson.


How? What specific gender related issues does this group have that are, even within the Trans community, misunderstood?
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Postby National Capitalist United States » Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:33 am

Arcturus Novus wrote:Eugh, with the fucking trans Strasserist flag, really?

Yeah, why that flag?
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:41 am

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Sundiata wrote:What nice phrases are usually appreciated?

It really depends, but whatever you do do not talk about "essence".

I had a guilty lol@ this.
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Postby Heloin » Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:49 am

So we have the Nazi flag for noncommittal Nazis in the Trans thread. For some reason.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:07 am

By asking "Nak, why the Strasserist flag?" you are attempting to understand Nakena; something the laws of physics have deemed utterly impossible. Quit while you're ahead, friends. Nak cannot be understood, only acknowledged. Her confusing non-conformity is part of her charm. :p
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Postby The Dodo Republic » Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:18 am

It was about time till this got a thread

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Postby Heloin » Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:22 am

The Dodo Republic wrote:It was about time till this got a thread

2015?
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:23 am

The Dodo Republic wrote:It was about time till this got a thread


Fifht iteration.

Or fifth column, given the flag in the OP.
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Postby The Dodo Republic » Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:25 am

oh. Oops

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:37 am

Heloin wrote:So we have the Nazi flag for noncommittal Nazis in the Trans thread. For some reason.

I'm not liking it either tbh.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

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Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Nakena » Thu Mar 11, 2021 7:52 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:Eugh, with the fucking trans Strasserist flag, really?


wtf i love the trans thread now


I am glad you're enjoying it. :hug:

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The Dodo Republic wrote:It was about time till this got a thread


Fifht iteration.

Or fifth column, given the flag in the OP.


Thank you. I was looking for a better thread title already.

As for the flag, I've included sources of it's origin right under it which show its a meme flag. I personally discovered it through F7 polandball however. Thanks F7. :p
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Postby The Unified Missourtama States » Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:53 am

New Jacobland wrote:Just to clarify:
I've seen people say they are a transgender female. Does this mean they were born male but identify as female or vice versa?

Yes, your understanding appears to be correct! Grenartia created a good glossary here on the forums that should be able to explain most similar terminology for you:
viewtopic.php?p=35592872#p35592872

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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:56 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The Dodo Republic wrote:It was about time till this got a thread


Fifht iteration.

Or fifth column, given the flag in the OP.

Maybe he thought the "V" in the title was just referring to the good ol' "two-finger salute" to all the haters?
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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