Trans Discussion Thread: Catgirls Don't Need Litterboxes

[HISPIDA]

Trans woman doctor Larin Kayataş was banned from the profession on the grounds of 'public morality'. Turkey, one of the European countries, has a mindset that is completely governed by the Middle East mindset. Being trans doesn't kill, but being transphobic does !! Trans Rights are human rights! We don't want transphobics among us, leave Turkey !

https://www.sozcu.com.tr/2021/gundem/doktor-larin-kayatas-meslekten-genel-ahlak-gerekcesiyle-men-edildi-6648495/

>turkey
>one of the european countries

swing and a foul ball

[Vassenor]

One of Kiera Bell's lawyers said the quiet part loud, admits they were out to nuke Gillick Competence in general and not just fuck over trans kids.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Trans woman doctor Larin Kayataş was banned from the profession on the grounds of 'public morality'. Turkey, one of the European countries, has a mindset that is completely governed by the Middle East mindset. Being trans doesn't kill, but being transphobic does !! Trans Rights are human rights! We don't want transphobics among us, leave Turkey !

https://www.sozcu.com.tr/2021/gundem/doktor-larin-kayatas-meslekten-genel-ahlak-gerekcesiyle-men-edildi-6648495/

>turkey
>one of the european countries

swing and a foul ball

It's time to teach geography. The territory of Turkey is within the borders of Europe. The Turkish Nation will destroy the transphobic Middle East mentality with education. The political pillar of transphobia is political Islam ! I will defend the freedom to make love to the end against the Turkish-hating Transphobics who are trying to separate us from Europe. Turkey will not be a political Islamic country!

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>turkey
>one of the european countries

swing and a foul ball

It's time to teach geography. The territory of Turkey is within the borders of Europe. The Turkish Nation will destroy the transphobic Middle East mentality with education. The political pillar of transphobia is political Islam ! I will defend the freedom to make love to the end against the Turkish-hating Transphobics who are trying to separate us from Europe. Turkey will not be a political Islamic country!

You're right about geography but far too sanguine about Turkey's potential to secularize the Middle East, especially when your President is an Islamist.

[Kowani]

DOJ to review transgender inmate protections that were rolled back under Trump

[The New California Republic]

One of Kiera Bell's lawyers said the quiet part loud, admits they were out to nuke Gillick Competence in general and not just fuck over trans kids.

It's just really bad that Keira Bell and some of the other <1% of people who "de-transition" are trying to hold the rest of the trans community hostage because they happened to change their minds. Sorry folks, you don't get to do that. You can ask for procedural changes if you want, but acting in a manner to stop it from happening completely and thus denying it to people who it is successful for, is utterly selfish and quite nasty.

[Forhillia]

>turkey
>one of the european countries

swing and a foul ball

It's time to teach geography. The territory of Turkey is within the borders of Europe. The Turkish Nation will destroy the transphobic Middle East mentality with education. The political pillar of transphobia is political Islam ! I will defend the freedom to make love to the end against the Turkish-hating Transphobics who are trying to separate us from Europe. Turkey will not be a political Islamic country!

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

It's time to teach geography. The territory of Turkey is within the borders of Europe. The Turkish Nation will destroy the transphobic Middle East mentality with education. The political pillar of transphobia is political Islam ! I will defend the freedom to make love to the end against the Turkish-hating Transphobics who are trying to separate us from Europe. Turkey will not be a political Islamic country!

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You're right about geography but far too sanguine about Turkey's potential to secularize the Middle East, especially when your President is an Islamist.

Unfortunately you are right. but I will continue to defend the freedom of trans people in Turkey. I really don't understand, political Islamists are against everything beautiful. I wish they would just leave people alone.

[Auzkhia]

You're right about geography but far too sanguine about Turkey's potential to secularize the Middle East, especially when your President is an Islamist.

Unfortunately you are right. but I will continue to defend the freedom of trans people in Turkey. I really don't understand, political Islamists are against everything beautiful. I wish they would just leave people alone.

I too hope for the best with Turkey and a return to secular full democracy. It's quite the road but I am sure it is possible, but that's beyond the scope of this thread.

[Great Algerstonia]

Hello. I am curious about puberty blockers. I am strongly opposed to puberty blockers because I find it very weird to have a kid not get puberty and I can't possibly see any benefit, though I think this is because of my own ignorance on the subject. Is it okay if somebody tells me more information about puberty blockers? Thanks.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Unfortunately you are right. but I will continue to defend the freedom of trans people in Turkey. I really don't understand, political Islamists are against everything beautiful. I wish they would just leave people alone.

I too hope for the best with Turkey and a return to secular full democracy. It's quite the road but I am sure it is possible, but that's beyond the scope of this thread.

In a real sense, Turkish political parties are afraid of political Islamist voters. I want them to take to the streets and say that trans rights are human rights, LGBT individuals should be given the right to marry.This is my dream view of Turkey. We should deprive the political Islamists of their right to vote and be elected, but it would be anti-democratic no matter how much I wanted to, that is, there should be a vote difference between university graduates and non-university graduates.

[Neutraligon]

Hello. I am curious about puberty blockers. I am strongly opposed to puberty blockers because I find it very weird to have a kid not get puberty and I can't possibly see any benefit, though I think this is because of my own ignorance on the subject. Is it okay if somebody tells me more information about puberty blockers? Thanks.

Puberty blockers are for the most part reversible. What they do is put off puberty. Until recently they were used in the short term to prevent precocious puberty (when a very young child goes through puberty). This gives the child the time to decide if they wish to actually transition. Puberty blockers are important because puberty itself makes it far more difficult to transition later. If a person decides that they wish to not transition then they are removed from the puberty blockers and puberty goes on as normal. Blockers simply allow the individual to mature and make an informed choice.

[Nord Vanaderus]

So yall gay or sumting?

[The New California Republic]

So yall gay or sumting?

Being trans and gay are two different things.

[Nord Vanaderus]

Can you in detail explain the difference?

[HISPIDA]

>turkey
>one of the european countries

swing and a foul ball

It's time to teach geography. The territory of Turkey is within the borders of Europe. The Turkish Nation will destroy the transphobic Middle East mentality with education. The political pillar of transphobia is political Islam ! I will defend the freedom to make love to the end against the Turkish-hating Transphobics who are trying to separate us from Europe. Turkey will not be a political Islamic country!

turkey is 90% asian

Can you in detail explain the difference?

gay = homo/bisexual
homosexual people are attracted to the same sex. bisexual people are attracted to either sex. also used by some people to define lgbt+ sexualities as a whole but for the vast majority of people using the term it refers to homosexual people and bisexual people

trans = transgender/sexual
transgender people are people who have transitioned from the gender they were assigned at birth to another. transexual people are people who have transitioned form the sex they were assigned at birth to the other

[The New California Republic]

Can you in detail explain the difference?

gay = homo/bisexual
homosexual people are attracted to the same sex. bisexual people are attracted to either sex

trans = transgender/sexual
transgender people are people who have transitioned from the gender they were assigned at birth to another. transexual people are people who have transitioned form the sex they were assigned at birth to the other

Yes, pretty much this. It's pretty simple, and clearly being trans and being gay is not the same thing.

[Auzkhia]

So yall gay or sumting?

Some of us are, some are not.

Why? Are you?

I'm more of a queer lesbian myself.

Can you in detail explain the difference?

Me being trans is I want to be a girl
Me being a lesbian is I want to be with a girl.

[Proctopeo]

Hello. I am curious about puberty blockers. I am strongly opposed to puberty blockers because I find it very weird to have a kid not get puberty and I can't possibly see any benefit, though I think this is because of my own ignorance on the subject. Is it okay if somebody tells me more information about puberty blockers? Thanks.

Puberty blockers are for the most part reversible. What they do is put off puberty. Until recently they were used in the short term to prevent precocious puberty (when a very young child goes through puberty). This gives the child the time to decide if they wish to actually transition. Puberty blockers are important because puberty itself makes it far more difficult to transition later. If a person decides that they wish to not transition then they are removed from the puberty blockers and puberty goes on as normal. Blockers simply allow the individual to mature and make an informed choice.

They're not as reversible as typically advertised, given that puberty is a complicated process that can't effectively be replicated with drugs.

Well, that and the severe bone issues.

[Punished UMN]

Unfortunately you are right. but I will continue to defend the freedom of trans people in Turkey. I really don't understand, political Islamists are against everything beautiful. I wish they would just leave people alone.

I too hope for the best with Turkey and a return to secular full democracy. It's quite the road but I am sure it is possible, but that's beyond the scope of this thread.

I'm not at all a fan of Erdogan, but Turkey's form of secularism was actually deeply damaging to women because the secularist dress code encouraged discrimination against women in higher education and employment. One of Erdogan's actual good ideas was to scrap the secular dress code to open up higher education to women, which was overwhelmingly popular but opposed by the constitutional court.

[The New California Republic]

They're not as reversible as typically advertised, given that puberty is a complicated process that can't effectively be replicated with drugs.

Well, that and the severe bone issues.

Actually, any link between puberty blockers and bone density issues is unclear:

In both cases (height and bone strength) there was some growth but less than would be expected during those years without hormonal suppression. There was no loss of bone density over the study period and the expectation is that the resumption of growth on both counts would be achieved when puberty resumed either naturally or via cross-sex hormones administered from 16. Further papers on bone strength have been published (inc. by some of the authors) supporting this hypothesis though research into long-term bone mass density recovery on this treatment pathway is underway.

https://tavistockandportman.nhs.uk/abou ... -patients/

So the bone density effects appear to be temporary. On the basis of what that is saying, it'd likely only become an issue if a person transitioning was permanently on puberty blockers, but that's something that doesn't happen, as it'd be nonsensical.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

It's time to teach geography. The territory of Turkey is within the borders of Europe. The Turkish Nation will destroy the transphobic Middle East mentality with education. The political pillar of transphobia is political Islam ! I will defend the freedom to make love to the end against the Turkish-hating Transphobics who are trying to separate us from Europe. Turkey will not be a political Islamic country!

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turkey is 90% asian

97% stays on Asian lands, but no one will be able to attract Turkey to the Middle East mentality. I don't feel uncomfortable when I see a trans person, but I get scared when I see someone wearing a Niqab.One day, he will be 100% LGBT supporter on Turkish soil ! Transphobia is a disease all over the world, whether Asian or European.

I too hope for the best with Turkey and a return to secular full democracy. It's quite the road but I am sure it is possible, but that's beyond the scope of this thread.

I'm not at all a fan of Erdogan, but Turkey's form of secularism was actually deeply damaging to women because the secularist dress code encouraged discrimination against women in higher education and employment. One of Erdogan's actual good ideas was to scrap the secular dress code to open up higher education to women, which was overwhelmingly popular but opposed by the constitutional court.

Please don't write victim literature anymore. What you say does not justify transphobia. LGBT is love ! Political Islam will disappear, LGBT will be liberated.

[Punished UMN]

turkey is 90% asian

97% stays on Asian lands, but no one will be able to attract Turkey to the Middle East mentality. I don't feel uncomfortable when I see a trans person, but I get scared when I see someone wearing a Niqab.One day, he will be 100% LGBT supporter on Turkish soil ! Transphobia is a disease all over the world, whether Asian or European.

I'm not at all a fan of Erdogan, but Turkey's form of secularism was actually deeply damaging to women because the secularist dress code encouraged discrimination against women in higher education and employment. One of Erdogan's actual good ideas was to scrap the secular dress code to open up higher education to women, which was overwhelmingly popular but opposed by the constitutional court.

Please don't write victim literature anymore. What you say does not justify transphobia. LGBT is love ! Political Islam will disappear, LGBT will be liberated.

So how do you justify imprisoning a woman for six months for attending college? What about members of the CHP physically assaulting a woman for wearing a headscarf? Or denying women medical care for wearing the headscarf?

[Punished UMN]

97% stays on Asian lands, but no one will be able to attract Turkey to the Middle East mentality. I don't feel uncomfortable when I see a trans person, but I get scared when I see someone wearing a Niqab.One day, he will be 100% LGBT supporter on Turkish soil ! Transphobia is a disease all over the world, whether Asian or European.

Please don't write victim literature anymore. What you say does not justify transphobia. LGBT is love ! Political Islam will disappear, LGBT will be liberated.

So how do you justify imprisoning a woman for six months for attending college? What about members of the CHP physically assaulting a woman for wearing a headscarf? Or denying women medical care for wearing the headscarf?

What about the banning of religious higher education, which has completely destroyed any hope for the survival of the 1700-year old Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, one of the most historically important religious groups in the country? It's not the Islamists who did that, it was the Secularists. Turkey under the secularists simply didn't have religious freedom, it wasn't a better state of affairs.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

97% stays on Asian lands, but no one will be able to attract Turkey to the Middle East mentality. I don't feel uncomfortable when I see a trans person, but I get scared when I see someone wearing a Niqab.One day, he will be 100% LGBT supporter on Turkish soil ! Transphobia is a disease all over the world, whether Asian or European.

Please don't write victim literature anymore. What you say does not justify transphobia. LGBT is love ! Political Islam will disappear, LGBT will be liberated.

So how do you justify imprisoning a woman for six months for attending college? What about members of the CHP physically assaulting a woman for wearing a headscarf? Or denying women medical care for wearing the headscarf?

This topic is about trans people, please don't try to change the subject. What is done to headscarved girls never legitimizes transphobia.Stop speaking from the mouths of political Islamists, my side is the Great Leader Gazi Mustafa Kemal Atatürk, Social Democracy and the freedom of trans people to make love.

So how do you justify imprisoning a woman for six months for attending college? What about members of the CHP physically assaulting a woman for wearing a headscarf? Or denying women medical care for wearing the headscarf?

What about the banning of religious higher education, which has completely destroyed any hope for the survival of the 1700-year old Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, one of the most historically important religious groups in the country? It's not the Islamists who did that, it was the Secularists. Turkey under the secularists simply didn't have religious freedom, it wasn't a better state of affairs.

If you want sects and religious organizations so much, you can go back to the Tired Man Ottoman Empire. There is no place for transphobic political Islamists in the new Rome!