Trans Discussion Thread V: Catgirls Don't Need Litterboxes

[Grenartia]

That bolded part hits close to home... Because recently I been playing as female characters in video games more than male characters.

I legit went through the exact same thing she did.

I just started playing female characters more but could never explain why. At first I thought it was because I just wanted to create beautiful women I was attracted to (which is still true) but then I started justifying it to myself by saying there aren't many female MCs in media at all and that I liked the idea of strong, independent female characters (both of which are also true) then I told myself it was because the male characters always had crummy voices (which is, again, still true) and then I just stopped trying to justify it entirely and said "because I feel like it, that's why" and now... well... I think I was subconsciously trying to tell myself something.

The only games I played as a kid that let you choose a gender for your character were the Pokemon games, and even then, I was too afraid my grandparents (the term "helicopter parents" does not adequately describe them) would snoop around and find it and ask me why I was playing a girl, or that my friends would notice (though I was virtually never able to play with them with any of my games) and pick on me for it.

Once I felt safe being able to play games as a girl character, though, I felt incredibly comfortable. FemShep is the only true Shep, FTR.

[Grenartia]

Louisiana bill to restrict trans healthcare fails

The sponsor of a bill that would place restrictions on transgender youth access to gender-confirming health care shelved the proposal Wednesday amid immense opposition from transgender people, health providers and advocates.

Senate Bill 104, by Sen. Mike Fesi, (R), would have prohibited gender therapy--including certain counseling, hormone treatments and gender-related surgery--for minors unless both parents gave written consent. Fesi said he didn’t want youth to “go around the back” of parents to get gender therapy.

But Fesi voluntarily deferred the bill after a long line of people gave emotional testimony against the bill. Chairman Fred Mills, R-Parks, said he had 400 “red cards” indicating people were against the bill. Opponents, including transgender teens and adults, said the bill would strip their ability to get gender-confirming procedures in cases where one parent is not a part of their life. Providers of transgender teens said the bill would restrict their ability to give care.

The legislation comes as Republican lawmakers across the country push legislation aimed at limiting access to treatment or sports for transgender youth. Several other bills are pending in the Louisiana Legislature, including a House bill by Rep. Gabe Firment that would ban the type of treatments Fesi’s bill targeted outright. Rep. Beryl Amedee, (R), and Senate President Pro Tem Beth Mizell, (R), also filed bills to ban transgender athletes from participating in girls’ or womens’ sports at public schools.

It’s difficult to see how any of the bills become law, even if they gain support in the GOP-led Legislature. Gov. John Bel Edwards, a Democrat, has said he won’t back the bills aimed at transgender people. It takes the two-thirds support of each chamber to override a gubernatorial veto, which is exceedingly rare even though Republicans hold a supermajority in the Senate and a near-supermajority in the House.

The NCAA Board of Governors said recently it will only host championship events in states that are “safe, healthy and free of discrimination.” The board didn’t spell out what it meant specifically, but the Final Four is slated to be held in New Orleans in 2022, prompting some to worry the bills in the Louisiana Legislature could thwart that event if passed.

Fesi said he brought the bill because he thinks “parents need to be involved” and that children are being “brainwashed” on Youtube and other social media platforms.

I see this as an absolute win. Based John Bel Edwards. Glad I put in the literal footwork to help re-elect him.

[Lady Victory]

I legit went through the exact same thing she did.

I just started playing female characters more but could never explain why. At first I thought it was because I just wanted to create beautiful women I was attracted to (which is still true) but then I started justifying it to myself by saying there aren't many female MCs in media at all and that I liked the idea of strong, independent female characters (both of which are also true) then I told myself it was because the male characters always had crummy voices (which is, again, still true) and then I just stopped trying to justify it entirely and said "because I feel like it, that's why" and now... well... I think I was subconsciously trying to tell myself something.

The only games I played as a kid that let you choose a gender for your character were the Pokemon games, and even then, I was too afraid my grandparents (the term "helicopter parents" does not adequately describe them) would snoop around and find it and ask me why I was playing a girl, or that my friends would notice (though I was virtually never able to play with them with any of my games) and pick on me for it.

Once I felt safe being able to play games as a girl character, though, I felt incredibly comfortable. FemShep is the only true Shep, FTR.

Idk how anyone could not play FemShep tbh. Jennifer Hale is awesome, and MaleShep's voice is just... ugh. I tried to play MaleShep once but I couldn't do it. His voice and the way he executed his lines were insufferable. I have the same problem with the Sole Survivor in Fallout 4 and Noble Six in Halo: Reach.

[Grenartia]

The only games I played as a kid that let you choose a gender for your character were the Pokemon games, and even then, I was too afraid my grandparents (the term "helicopter parents" does not adequately describe them) would snoop around and find it and ask me why I was playing a girl, or that my friends would notice (though I was virtually never able to play with them with any of my games) and pick on me for it.

Once I felt safe being able to play games as a girl character, though, I felt incredibly comfortable. FemShep is the only true Shep, FTR.

Idk how anyone could not play FemShep tbh. Jennifer Hale is awesome, and MaleShep's voice is just... ugh. I tried to play MaleShep once but I couldn't do it. His voice and the way he executed his lines were insufferable. I have the same problem with the Sole Survivor in Fallout 4 and Noble Six in Halo: Reach.

The only acceptable way to play DudeSix is with that mod that has Steve Downes doing all of his lines as the Master Chief.

[Lady Victory]

Idk how anyone could not play FemShep tbh. Jennifer Hale is awesome, and MaleShep's voice is just... ugh. I tried to play MaleShep once but I couldn't do it. His voice and the way he executed his lines were insufferable. I have the same problem with the Sole Survivor in Fallout 4 and Noble Six in Halo: Reach.

The only acceptable way to play DudeSix is with that mod that has Steve Downes doing all of his lines as the Master Chief.

[RIHAAM]

I am often confused amongst the words transgender, intersex, transsexual and agender. What is meant by the statement “gender is a social construct?” Are trans men biologically male? I....I’m seriously confused ;-;

[Grenartia]

The only acceptable way to play DudeSix is with that mod that has Steve Downes doing all of his lines as the Master Chief.

Enjoy, moi cherie.

I am often confused amongst the words 1. transgender, 2. intersex, 3. transsexual and 4. agender. 5. What is meant by the statement “gender is a social construct?” 6. Are trans men biologically male? I....I’m seriously confused ;-;

1. Anyone who's gender identity does not align with the one traditionally associated with their birth sex
2. Anyone who's sex at birth has been judged to be not exclusively male or female.
3. A somewhat outdated term with the same basic meaning as transgender
4. Anyone who lacks a gender identity.
5. Basically, that the overwhelming majority of gender revolves not around the genitalia or chromosomes of an individual, as people commonly think, but around gender expression and perceptions, which are social phenomena.
6. Somewhat complicated to answer, but in the case of a trans man who is on testosterone, for all intents and purposes aside from chromosomes (which are limited in terms of impact), yes.

[Lady Victory]

transgender

"Transgender" means you don't identify with the gender you were assigned at birth.

intersex

"Intersex" is when someone is born with varying sexual characteristics that don't fall neatly into the categories of biologically "male" or "female".

transsexual

"Transsexual" is an outdated and inaccurate term for a transgender person. I advise against using it at all.

agender

"Agender" is when you don't identify with any gender and consider yourself to be genderless.

What is meant by the statement “gender is a social construct?”

Exactly what it means. It means that gender is man-made and not found in nature.

Are trans men biologically male?

No. Transmen are biological females that were assigned female gender at birth but instead identify as male. Transwomen, conversely, are biological males who were assigned male gender at birth but instead identify as female.

[Suriyanakhon]

"Transsexual" is an outdated and inaccurate term for a transgender person. I advise against using it at all.

I'm not entirely sure this is the case tbh. I've seen quite a few trans people who prefer the term and I sort of like it over transgender for myself.

[The Rich Port]

"Transsexual" is an outdated and inaccurate term for a transgender person. I advise against using it at all.

I'm not entirely sure this is the case tbh. I've seen quite a few trans people who prefer the term and I sort of like it over transgender for myself.

I think it's a case of using the best, most accurate terminology, regardless of whether it's a neutral term or not.

Transexual, Transsexual, Transgender, I call people what they want to be called, and most people prefer Transgender because it sounds accurate.

IMO it's similar to trap, which is more problematic. For some people it's a completely neutral term that just means a feminine man or a cross-dresser or whatever, but there's other terms that can be used that are less offensive and I like to call people what they want to be called after all.

Of course, that's not universal but most transgender people or people in general are not "MAPs", "alt-right", or whatever the fuck TERFs call themselves that isn't a "slur".

[Lady Victory]

"Transsexual" is an outdated and inaccurate term for a transgender person. I advise against using it at all.

I'm not entirely sure this is the case tbh. I've seen quite a few trans people who prefer the term and I sort of like it over transgender for myself.

I've only heard it's treated as offensive so I just assumed that was a universal standpoint. I don't much like the sound of it myself, mostly for technical reasons.

I'm not entirely sure this is the case tbh. I've seen quite a few trans people who prefer the term and I sort of like it over transgender for myself.

I think it's a case of using the best, most accurate terminology, regardless of whether it's a neutral term or not.

Transexual, Transsexual, Transgender, I call people what they want to be called, and most people prefer Transgender because it sounds accurate.

IMO it's similar to trap, which is more problematic. For some people it's a completely neutral term that just means a feminine man or a cross-dresser or whatever, but there's other terms that can be used that are less offensive and I like to call people what they want to be called after all.

Of course, that's not universal but most transgender people or people in general are not "MAPs", "alt-right", or whatever the fuck TERFs call themselves that isn't a "slur".

I actually didn't know "trap" was considered a slur until recently. I've actually seen some transwomen call themselves "traps" unironically.

[RIHAAM]

Thanks for clarifying, friends!

[The Rich Port]

I'm not entirely sure this is the case tbh. I've seen quite a few trans people who prefer the term and I sort of like it over transgender for myself.

I've only heard it's treated as offensive so I just assumed that was a universal standpoint. I don't much like the sound of it myself, mostly for technical reasons.

I think it's a case of using the best, most accurate terminology, regardless of whether it's a neutral term or not.

Transexual, Transsexual, Transgender, I call people what they want to be called, and most people prefer Transgender because it sounds accurate.

IMO it's similar to trap, which is more problematic. For some people it's a completely neutral term that just means a feminine man or a cross-dresser or whatever, but there's other terms that can be used that are less offensive and I like to call people what they want to be called after all.

Of course, that's not universal but most transgender people or people in general are not "MAPs", "alt-right", or whatever the fuck TERFs call themselves that isn't a "slur".

I actually didn't know "trap" was considered a slur until recently. I've actually seen some transwomen call themselves "traps" unironically.

It's subtle but yeaaaah. I feel weird when I say because, you know, trans panic and whatnot, since originally, the 4chan losers who came up with it meant "trap" as in "the tranny tricked me into being attracted to them" and whatnot.

And then other 4chan people made fun of them and now being transgender is not an immediate death sentence now... Almost...

[Fansania]

I'm not transgender, but sometimes I have passing thoughts about how cool it would be to dress and put on a persona as a woman for one day or part-time (I am a biological male), not in the exaggerated drag kind of way either but pass or close to pass as being a "real" woman. At the same time, I like me being male though.

I hope my curiosity of discussion is accepted or not taken the wrong way for this thread.

[Lady Victory]

I'm not transgender, but sometimes I have passing thoughts about how cool it would be to dress and put on a persona as a woman for one day or part-time (I am a biological male), not in the exaggerated drag kind of way either but pass or close to pass as being a "real" woman. At the same time, I like me being male though.

I hope my curiosity of discussion is accepted or not taken the wrong way for this thread.

I actually had a similar viewpoint before I thought more about it and realized I was trans. So, you know, food for thought.

[Honeydewistania]

I'm not transgender, but sometimes I have passing thoughts about how cool it would be to dress and put on a persona as a woman for one day or part-time (I am a biological male), not in the exaggerated drag kind of way either but pass or close to pass as being a "real" woman. At the same time, I like me being male though.

I hope my curiosity of discussion is accepted or not taken the wrong way for this thread.

Your curiosity isn’t unwelcome, don’t worry!

If you think crossdressing is cool, you should try it out and see how it feels.

[Kowani]

West Virginia Governor Jim Justice (R) signs bill banning trans students from school sports into law

[Lady Victory]

West Virginia Governor Jim Justice (R) signs bill banning trans students from school sports into law

Boooo

Hissss

*cringe*

[Suriyanakhon]

I'm not transgender, but sometimes I have passing thoughts about how cool it would be to dress and put on a persona as a woman for one day or part-time (I am a biological male), not in the exaggerated drag kind of way either but pass or close to pass as being a "real" woman. At the same time, I like me being male though.

I hope my curiosity of discussion is accepted or not taken the wrong way for this thread.

That's a pretty normal thought to have imho, a lot of cis people enjoy exploring gender expression while not being trans.

[Just-An-Illusion]

I legit went through the exact same thing she did.

I just started playing female characters more but could never explain why. At first I thought it was because I just wanted to create beautiful women I was attracted to (which is still true) but then I started justifying it to myself by saying there aren't many female MCs in media at all and that I liked the idea of strong, independent female characters (both of which are also true) then I told myself it was because the male characters always had crummy voices (which is, again, still true) and then I just stopped trying to justify it entirely and said "because I feel like it, that's why" and now... well... I think I was subconsciously trying to tell myself something.

The only games I played as a kid that let you choose a gender for your character were the Pokemon games, and even then, I was too afraid my grandparents (the term "helicopter parents" does not adequately describe them) would snoop around and find it and ask me why I was playing a girl, or that my friends would notice (though I was virtually never able to play with them with any of my games) and pick on me for it.

Once I felt safe being able to play games as a girl character, though, I felt incredibly comfortable. FemShep is the only true Shep, FTR.

Now this is based.

[The Rich Port]

Thanks for clarifying, friends!

Hey no prob :3

Ya know I always hear people complain about crazy trans people jumping down their throats about inane nitpicking about how "woke" or "PC" someone is... But I never see it.

I'm sure they're out there, but it seriously makes me question the veracity of the "The Leftists/Liberals Started The Cultural War" shit I hear so many reactionaries call to defend their aggression.

Everyone in NS who is also transgender is very chill in my experience.

[Kowani]

I'm sure they're out there, but it seriously makes me question the veracity of the "The Leftists/Liberals Started The Cultural War" shit I hear so many reactionaries call to defend their aggression.

while this is not really the thread for it in depth
this only works for young reactionaries whose first exposure to the culture war was early YouTube Buzzfeed feminism videos
for practically everyone else, no

[Punished UMN]

Based and girlpilled.

I read that as grillpilled for some reason.

Centrism is a hell of a drug

[North Washington Republic]

I read that as grillpilled for some reason.

Centrism Populism is a hell of a drug

Fixed it for you.

[Fansania]

I'm not transgender, but sometimes I have passing thoughts about how cool it would be to dress and put on a persona as a woman for one day or part-time (I am a biological male), not in the exaggerated drag kind of way either but pass or close to pass as being a "real" woman. At the same time, I like me being male though.

I hope my curiosity of discussion is accepted or not taken the wrong way for this thread.

Even though it's kind of hard because I live in my parent's house still and because of the pan-demic.