Trans Discussion Thread: Catgirls Don't Need Litterboxes

[Jykku]

I’m a Christian and let me tell you this:
I’m not trans and I probably never will be

Once more, just like boners, the state of being trans doesn't care what god you worship.
If you're transgender, you're transgender regardless of what religion you were brought up in (or if you weren't brought up religious at all).

[Kowani]

British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal rules that deliberately misgendering an employee in the workplace is a human rights violation

[Forhillia]

The Mexican state of Oaxaca becomes the first in the nation to allow minors to choose their gender identity

Based Oaxaca

I have no idea how to pronounce that ha ha

wuh-HAH-cuh

[Antipatros]

Posthumous victory for S.Korean transgender soldier

[Kowani]

Foster child denied place at school because he's trans

Gemma* reached out to us after her foster child, Elliot*, was denied a place at the local school because he is transgender. The school is just five minutes from where Gemma’s family lives, with places available in his year group.

Right now, the only way for Elliot, 13, to get an education involves travelling for more than three hours each day on public transport to and from his old school.

Elliot began living with Gemma and her family in June this year, leaving the home he shared with his frail, elderly grandfather to lower the risk of him coming into contact with Covid. He was in a terrible situation, having lost his paternal grandfather to Covid six months before, and with no one else in his family to turn to.

When he moved in, Gemma reached out to her local secondary school to request a place for Elliot, only to be told by the school’s safeguarding lead they wouldn’t allocate a place for him because a vulnerable pupil at the school knew he is trans and may “out” him.

The school also told Gemma they would only speak to Elliot’s social worker going forward – even though he currently doesn’t have one.

One of the school governors even told Gemma that Elliot ‘should be educated privately until he can have a sex change’. Under law, transgender children cannot access irreversible interventions like surgery. Gender affirming surgery is only available to adults in the UK – and usually, after waiting several years for it.

Gemma is understandably horrified by this turn of events – and so are we.

Gemma said: “Elliot’s previous high school is a three-hour round trip from where he now lives with me. The local school is undersubscribed, five minutes from home, with the good music and drama provision that is so important to him.

“Through no fault of his own, Elliot, a transgender lad, had a disadvantaged childhood. He is academically gifted, very articulate, and is a kind, loyal and considerate friend. He would be an asset to any school community.

“I find the cruelty of this situation shocking. Education professionals will certainly be aware of the emotional impact of their conduct on a young person with Elliot’s background and characteristics. They should certainly know the levels of mental health issues, self-harm, suicide attempts amongst young trans people. But they nonetheless chose to do this.”

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*names have been changed.

[The New California Republic]

Snip

Where is this? It's UK, but it doesn't say exactly where. I'm assuming it's a school in England somewhere.

And this line just takes the biscuit:

One of the school governors even told Gemma that Elliot ‘should be educated privately until he can have a sex change’. Under law, transgender children cannot access irreversible interventions like surgery. Gender affirming surgery is only available to adults in the UK – and usually, after waiting several years for it.

[Kowani]

Snip

Where is this? It's UK, but it doesn't say exactly where. I'm assuming it's a school in England somewhere.

And this line just takes the biscuit:

One of the school governors even told Gemma that Elliot ‘should be educated privately until he can have a sex change’. Under law, transgender children cannot access irreversible interventions like surgery. Gender affirming surgery is only available to adults in the UK – and usually, after waiting several years for it.

ongoing case (not legal but yk) involving minors, and the description of the town indicates to me that giving a location would help out the child
so better for everyone to obscure

[The New California Republic]

Where is this? It's UK, but it doesn't say exactly where. I'm assuming it's a school in England somewhere.

And this line just takes the biscuit:

One of the school governors even told Gemma that Elliot ‘should be educated privately until he can have a sex change’. Under law, transgender children cannot access irreversible interventions like surgery. Gender affirming surgery is only available to adults in the UK – and usually, after waiting several years for it.

ongoing case (not legal but yk) involving minors, and the description of the town indicates to me that giving a location would help out the child
so better for everyone to obscure

I mean it doesn't have to be the exact town, it could just be the general area. It doesn't even have to give the county, it could be as vague as Southern England etc. Because of the utter lack of info in the article, it could literally be absolutely anywhere in the UK.

[Dumpster Death Cult]

Oh wow. it's been years since I've been on NS, and I lost my old login, but I'm back now, and I'm trans. 1 month of hormones down. Not sure if anyone I remember is still even on the site, as I've been back for like twenty minutes, but it's cool to see that there's a trans megathread I didn't remember.

[Dumb Ideologies]

Oh wow. it's been years since I've been on NS, and I lost my old login, but I'm back now, and I'm trans. 1 month of hormones down. Not sure if anyone I remember is still even on the site, as I've been back for like twenty minutes, but it's cool to see that there's a trans megathread I didn't remember.

I'd say welcome back, but you managed to escape through fortuitous happenstance and now you've gone and thrown that all away.

[Lady Victory]

Oh wow. it's been years since I've been on NS, and I lost my old login, but I'm back now, and I'm trans. 1 month of hormones down. Not sure if anyone I remember is still even on the site, as I've been back for like twenty minutes, but it's cool to see that there's a trans megathread I didn't remember.

I'd say welcome back, but you managed to escape through fortuitous happenstance and now you've gone and thrown that all away.

NS is like a siren: you can never resist the call, it'll keep pulling you back in until it drowns you.

[Dumpster Death Cult]

Oh wow. it's been years since I've been on NS, and I lost my old login, but I'm back now, and I'm trans. 1 month of hormones down. Not sure if anyone I remember is still even on the site, as I've been back for like twenty minutes, but it's cool to see that there's a trans megathread I didn't remember.

I'd say welcome back, but you managed to escape through fortuitous happenstance and now you've gone and thrown that all away.

My life was better when I was here, i promise

[Izandai]

I'd say welcome back, but you managed to escape through fortuitous happenstance and now you've gone and thrown that all away.

NS is like a siren: you can never resist the call, it'll keep pulling you back in until it drowns you.

You can log out any time you like, but you can never leave...

Unless you become DOS. But I don't recommend that.

[Saiwania]

While I don't intend to purposely misgender anyone on here, I don't truly believe it in my heart of hearts.

To use a Tolkien analogy, a man wanting to become a woman is like a Human wanting to become an Elf in my view. It simply can't be done. At the end of the day, the man will perish from aging whilst the Elf will live on forever. If a biological sex is something someone is born into, that is effectively their fate so long as science never advances to the point where one's sex can ever be truly changed like if actual immortality were somehow ever achieved.

[Vassenor]

While I don't intend to purposely misgender anyone on here, I don't truly believe it in my heart of hearts.

To use a Tolkien analogy, a man wanting to become a woman is like a Human wanting to become an Elf in my view. It simply can't be done. At the end of the day, the man will perish from aging whilst the Elf will live on forever. If a biological sex is something someone is born into, that is effectively their fate so long as science never advances to the point where one's sex can ever be truly changed like if actual immortality were somehow ever achieved.

Remember, human beings are defined by their genitals.

Also intersex people say hi.

[The New California Republic]

To use a Tolkien analogy, a man wanting to become a woman is like a Human wanting to become an Elf in my view.

Yes, because transitioning is totally like trying to become a mythical creature.

At the end of the day, the man will perish from aging whilst the Elf will live on forever.

Wh...what...? What are you even saying? Is this meant to be some kind of point or...?

[Ifreann]

I'd say welcome back, but you managed to escape through fortuitous happenstance and now you've gone and thrown that all away.

NS is like a siren: you can never resist the call, it'll keep pulling you back in until it drowns you.

You're just sailing by peacefully, and then the siren yells something about how if evolution is true then why are there still monkeys and before you know it you've jumped overboard.

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To use a Tolkien analogy, a man wanting to become a woman is like a Human wanting to become an Elf in my view.

Yes, because transitioning is totally like trying to become a mythical creature.

At the end of the day, the man will perish from aging whilst the Elf will live on forever.

Wh...what...? What are you even saying? Is this meant to be some kind of point or...?

Our local fascist will accept trans people only if they are immortal. Because elves.

[Vassenor]

NS is like a siren: you can never resist the call, it'll keep pulling you back in until it drowns you.

You're just sailing by peacefully, and then the siren yells something about how if evolution is true then why are there still monkeys and before you know it you've jumped overboard.

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Yes, because transitioning is totally like trying to become a mythical creature.


Wh...what...? What are you even saying? Is this meant to be some kind of point or...?

Our local fascist will accept trans people only if they are immortal. Because elves.

Also apparently men and women are entirely seperate species which is so anti-science I can't help laughing at it.

[Auzkhia]

While I don't intend to purposely misgender anyone on here, I don't truly believe it in my heart of hearts.

To use a Tolkien analogy, a man wanting to become a woman is like a Human wanting to become an Elf in my view. It simply can't be done. At the end of the day, the man will perish from aging whilst the Elf will live on forever. If a biological sex is something someone is born into, that is effectively their fate so long as science never advances to the point where one's sex can ever be truly changed like if actual immortality were somehow ever achieved.

*laughs in otherkin*

You really wanna open that can of worms?

But also, species and gender are different things, and men and women are literally human or seem human, but that's besides the point, mind you I am a transhumanist and think that people should be able to make their bodies to their exact specifications and that can go beyond the average human form. Even so, this argument is deliberately obtuse, it is evidently clear that one does and can "change their sex" so to speak, as in modify or change primary and secondary sex traits. But whenever this happens, one points to chromosomes but like that's exactly the problem, the constant shifting of the goals, transphobes keep the argument in a wild goose chase for the metaphysics of gender.

Frankly, with you specifically, I doubt there's anyone here that's gonna change your mind, frankly, I don't care if some anon rabidly insists I'm still a bouncing biological baby boy macho man. Especially when that is not my reality at all.

[Thermodolia]

NS is like a siren: you can never resist the call, it'll keep pulling you back in until it drowns you.

You can log out any time you like, but you can never leave...

Unless you become DOS. But I don't recommend that.

Even DOS people don’t leave. This place really is Hotel California

[Inarceseropia]

Oh wow. it's been years since I've been on NS, and I lost my old login, but I'm back now, and I'm trans. 1 month of hormones down. Not sure if anyone I remember is still even on the site, as I've been back for like twenty minutes, but it's cool to see that there's a trans megathread I didn't remember.

Are you not afraid that the hormoes will hurt your body?

[The New California Republic]

Oh wow. it's been years since I've been on NS, and I lost my old login, but I'm back now, and I'm trans. 1 month of hormones down. Not sure if anyone I remember is still even on the site, as I've been back for like twenty minutes, but it's cool to see that there's a trans megathread I didn't remember.

Are you not afraid that the hormoes will hurt your body?

In what way?

[Inarceseropia]

Are you not afraid that the hormoes will hurt your body?

In what way?

It would make a person not able to consive kids, there are a lot psychological issues.

[The New California Republic]

In what way?

It would make a person not able to consive kids

If they want to then the person has sperm or eggs frozen. And trans people can actually conceive, depending on whether they opt for surgery or not.

there are a lot psychological issues.

Are there?

[The H Corporation]

The Mexican state of Oaxaca becomes the first in the nation to allow minors to choose their gender identity

Kids can choose their own identity but can't drink Coca-Cola. I am not against it but that is hilarious :P