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Is it OK to swear/curse?

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Is it ok for you?

Poll ended at Sun Mar 28, 2021 2:50 am

Yes, absolutely.
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67%
Not at all.
47
15%
Maybe.
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Total votes : 320

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Postby Diarcesia » Fri Mar 19, 2021 9:54 am

Sierra Grand wrote:
Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire wrote:"Bad words" are only bad because of society. They don't seem "bad" for any other reason, so why prevent a piece of the English language from being used?

shit was just the lower class' way of saying poop

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Postby Zul-ar » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:19 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Zul-ar wrote:It's not unpronounceable, you're acting like human beings can't all make the same sounds. Not only that, it was created in fucking Puerto Rico. How is it a "white liberal thing?"

It is unpronounceable. In Spanish the x doesn’t make the same sound as it does in English when it follows a “n” and the “x” in general doesn’t sound the same in Spanish.

Latinx isn’t pronounced Latin-X in Spanish but La-Tinks which isn’t a thing. Which is why Latine is the actual gender neutral word and not Latinx.

Seriously ask any Spanish speaking about this. They who’ll tell you the same thing.

Like it's been previously said, the earliest instance of BIPOC being used was by black people, and the BIPOC foundation was founded by women of color.

I am so tired of you saying shit is just a "white liberal thing" and having ZERO evidence to support it. Can you please, for once, not pull shit out your ass, and give me a single source for the claims you're making?

I’m tired of white liberals like yourself coming and telling us minorities what we can and can’t say. I’m tired of white liberals like yourself telling Spanish speakers that their language is wrong and must conform to what the white liberal imperialism says it should be.

This is cultural imperialism. You might want to stick your head in the ground and dismiss it out of hand but literally nobody who actually speaks Spanish says Latinx. Latine is far more accurate than Latinx.

TIL: I am secretly a white person. JFC you actually know more about my skin color than I know myself. I didn't know you were omniscient, Therm.

Latine is better than Latinx as it's less confusing, but again, Latinx fist appeared in a "Puerto Rican psychological periodical to challenge the gender binaries encoded in the Spanish language." Anyone can google this. But the thing about you is you don't. You just keep acting like white Americans are pushing this onto Spanish-speaking individuals when Spanish-speaking individuals came up with it.

Nobody is saying that the terms latino or latina are wrong, they are both fine terms when used to describe men and women, but does not accurately describe a non-binary person, which is why people have been searching for new, more inclusive terms. Eventually one of them will catch on.Currently latinx is unpopular, but it is still in use by Spanish-speaking individuals.
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Postby Celritannia » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:21 am

Swearing is fucking disgusting :p

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Postby Partybus » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:39 am


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Postby Partybus » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:42 am

And here's a little documentary I recommend watching;

https://youtu.be/FvPbxZmZxZ8

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Postby Zul-ar » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:43 am

Retconned, nevermind.
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Postby Partybus » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:54 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Luziyca wrote:When I was younger, yeah. I remember being grounded for an evening for saying "damn it" or what have you.

That said, slurs should not be used under any circumstances outside of maybe historical quotations.

Grounded for "damn it"? :shock:

Blimey... as a teenager, if my parents had grounded me for swearing, I'd have never left my house.

And to answer the OP, there's nothing wrong with swearing, especially used as an intensifier in conversation or in academic discussion.

Also, letting out a loud and proud "fuck" (pretend swearing doesn't work) is effective at reducing pain, so it can kind of rock when you're suffering.


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The first time I visited a friend whos' family had a "swear jar" I dropped a $20 as soon as I walked in, so I'd have credits :D

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Postby Partybus » Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:57 am

Zul-ar wrote:Those links look a little suspicious, can someone tell me if they're okay to click on?


They're Youtube videos...nothing more.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:51 pm

Yes, but I would consider cursing a vice in most respects. While I get the appeal of being vulgar, crass, and disrespectful on occasion, and, indeed, it may even be appropriate to express disrespect, wrath, or annoyance in particular circumstances, doing so in excess demeans the person who does so.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:36 pm

I know how to swear and curse in about 15 languages.

Unfortunately, many of them only in spoken word, not written.

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Postby Jianxi Fujian Soviet » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:33 pm

I'd say yes. Not erxactly polite, but... my job has basically broken my swearword-recognition anyway, I don't even notice it anymore. :D
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Postby Odreria » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:35 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Wormfodder Delivery wrote:Yes, everyone should be using the most magnificient profanities, altough I do wish there was more creativity involved.


*Ahem*

Cock weasel
Cock nozzle
Fuckhead
Shitdick
Cock gobbler
Fuck monkey
Shit licker
Fuckstick
Fuck nugget
Fuckerido
Assbastard
Piss drinker
Fucknucker
Assdick
Fuckass
Shit tits
Cuntstain McGee
Bitchfucker

I can keep going all day, really.

Wow look who just learned the f word, he must be so cool
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Postby Fjarrej » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:35 pm

Fuck yeah, shit! 8)

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Postby Cekovia » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:36 pm

Odreria wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
*Ahem*

Cock weasel
Cock nozzle
Fuckhead
Shitdick
Cock gobbler
Fuck monkey
Shit licker
Fuckstick
Fuck nugget
Fuckerido
Assbastard
Piss drinker
Fucknucker
Assdick
Fuckass
Shit tits
Cuntstain McGee
Bitchfucker

I can keep going all day, really.

Wow look who just learned the f word, he must be so cool

also cock, it appears! this guy's got some serious street smarts!
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Postby Cekovia » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:37 pm

Fjarrej wrote:Fuck yeah, shit! 8)

why does every person on this stupid website make the exact same jokes constantly ? at least a dozen other people have made this joke in their replies to this. it's not funnier the 20th time, fyi.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:55 pm

Fuck yes. I’d rather utter a good swear word here and there than blow a fuse when super angry.

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Postby Fahran » Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:21 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Wormfodder Delivery wrote:Yes, everyone should be using the most magnificient profanities, altough I do wish there was more creativity involved.


*Ahem*

Cock weasel
Cock nozzle
Fuckhead
Shitdick
Cock gobbler
Fuck monkey
Shit licker
Fuckstick
Fuck nugget
Fuckerido
Assbastard
Piss drinker
Fucknucker
Assdick
Fuckass
Shit tits
Cuntstain McGee
Bitchfucker

I can keep going all day, really.

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Postby Ayytaly » Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:32 pm

It's fine to profane, especially if it's an informal social interaction with mates. But not in front of the children, as they'll think it's fine to profane in front of elders.
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Postby Nova Bromelia » Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:36 pm

Just started in a book with a title that translates to "The Vicar Learns to Curse", which was written by a vicar, and, yes, he advocates for more cursing, with many theological and biblical arguments. Even as a non-christian like me, I find it really interesting. The author called Rikko Voorberg, and he does not really "preach the word" much, rather, he shows it by living it. If only all Christians (or, goodness, all people, period) were like that, the world might actually be a great, if sweary, place.
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Postby Fahran » Sat Mar 20, 2021 1:37 pm

Ayytaly wrote:It's fine to profane, especially if it's an informal social interaction with mates. But not in front of the children, as they'll think it's fine to profane in front of elders.

I really try not to curse around elderly people or children, which isn't difficult given that I seldom curse in general. Part of it is showing respect to social conventions and elders, part of it is not socializing children to think vulgarity and profanity are cool/mature, and part of it is wanting to cultivate an image and character that prioritize virtue, self-respect, and upright speech.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Mar 20, 2021 2:21 pm

Partybus wrote:Yes absolutely...

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Postby Adamede » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:37 pm

There are certain surround were it is and isn’t appropriate( but I wouldn’t say it’s not ok I’m a general sense.

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Postby Blue Nagia » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:50 pm

Resilient Acceleration wrote:A thing to point out is that swearing has largely lost its taboo meaning, and morphed into everyday reaction-induced words along the lines of "ouch" and "ow". These days, racial slurs and mental health terms are much more insulting and unacceptable.


This.

Taboo words change over time. Few of us here will flinch at a "fuck" or "shit"; people don't really use the euphemism "the F-word" any more, we just say "fuck". But if someone fully writes out the N-word or the R-word, people will flinch.

Which I think makes more sense than the previous generations' way of thinking about it. Talking about sex or poop doesn't do any social harm, but demeaning someone for their race or intelligence actually has negative consequences.
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Postby Diarcesia » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:52 pm

Blue Nagia wrote:
Resilient Acceleration wrote:A thing to point out is that swearing has largely lost its taboo meaning, and morphed into everyday reaction-induced words along the lines of "ouch" and "ow". These days, racial slurs and mental health terms are much more insulting and unacceptable.


This.

Taboo words change over time. Few of us here will flinch at a "fuck" or "shit"; people don't really use the euphemism "the F-word" any more, we just say "fuck". But if someone fully writes out the N-word or the R-word, people will flinch.

Which I think makes more sense than the previous generations' way of thinking about it. Talking about sex or poop doesn't do any social harm, but demeaning someone for their race or intelligence actually has negative consequences.

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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Sat Mar 20, 2021 3:55 pm

middle schoolers when they first start swearing to be cool
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