French Politics Thread I: Borne to be wild

[San Lumen]

Oh my god Melanchon is way overperforming, there might be a tiny chance he inches his way into the second round. He's currently .7% away from Le Pen.

I thought the runoff was already called for Macron and Le Pen

[Arisyan]

Oh my god Melanchon is way overperforming, there might be a tiny chance he inches his way into the second round. He's currently .7% away from Le Pen.

I thought the runoff was already called for Macron and Le Pen

It's not technically official yet, he's within the margin of error currently.

Though, I still expect a runoff between Macron and Le Pen.

Oh my god Melanchon is way overperforming, there might be a tiny chance he inches his way into the second round. He's currently .7% away from Le Pen.

tbh if he wins the first round then macron has this in the bag imo. le pen is the only person in france who could feasibly unseat macron.

I mean, that's not a good thing.

[Prima Scriptura]

Will France leave NATO if Le Pen wins?

[Hukhalia]

tbh if he wins the first round then macron has this in the bag imo. le pen is the only person in france who could feasibly unseat macron.

I mean, that's not a good thing.

Yeah I'm just saying that realistically the only thing to gain from Melenchon winning the first round is to frustrate Le Pen's bid. A lot of hopefuls think he stands a chance of winning second round. Which he won't.

Largely I think it's gonna be Le Pen v Macron anyway though, and I think Macron likely will win. Not that I care -- I hardly have any horses in this race.

[Madrinpoor]

Will France leave NATO if Le Pen wins?

I doubt it, especially during this Ukraine situation.

[Ariddia]

Oh my god Melanchon is way overperforming, there might be a tiny chance he inches his way into the second round. He's currently .7% away from Le Pen.

I thought the runoff was already called for Macron and Le Pen

Mélenchon's result is unexpectedly good, but they're saying it's near-certain that he finished third.

The long-standing thread for the election, by the way:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=516465

[Shrillland]

Oh my god Melanchon is way overperforming, there might be a tiny chance he inches his way into the second round. He's currently .7% away from Le Pen.

I thought the runoff was already called for Macron and Le Pen

That was what the exit polls said, and exit polls in Europe are usually more precise than in the US, but Melanchon has overperformed them fairly well. It'll still be Macron vs. Le Pen, but it'll be more of a squeak for Le Pen this round than expected.

[Prima Scriptura]

Will France leave NATO if Le Pen wins?

I doubt it, especially during this Ukraine situation.

I would think Le Pen voters would actually be pro-Putin, or am I way off? Has Le Pen actually moved a tad toward the center and is NOT like her batshit racist antisemitic fucker of a father?

[Hukhalia]

I doubt it, especially during this Ukraine situation.

I would think Le Pen voters would actually be pro-Putin, or am I way off? Has Le Pen actually moved a tad toward the center and is NOT like her batshit racist antisemitic fucker of a father?

Le Pen is more pro-Putin than most in France. She thinks the Ukraine invasion is wrong but thinks France and Russia could become allies if Putin moved out.

[Madrinpoor]

I thought the runoff was already called for Macron and Le Pen

Mélenchon's result is unexpectedly good, but they're saying it's near-certain that he finished third.

The long-standing thread for the election, by the way:

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=516465

Yuck. This thread better (jk)

[Thermodolia]

Oh my god Melanchon is way overperforming, there might be a tiny chance he inches his way into the second round. He's currently .7% away from Le Pen.

There’s now way that’s going to happen dude. That .7% will keep him out. The first round is over

[Vistulange]

Is there anything specific about how the votes are distributed? As in, Northeast France seemingly having come out in favour of Le Pen, Western France being Macron territory, etc.

[Shrillland]

Is there anything specific about how the votes are distributed? As in, Northeast France seemingly having come out in favour of Le Pen, Western France being Macron territory, etc.

Mostly, it just seems, from looking at how the different Regional Councils and Deputies are arranged, that it's just traditionally Right or Left wing alignments choosing the best candidates in tactical voting. Haute-de-France, for example, is dominated by LR, but since Pecresse wasn't seen to have much of a chance, a lot of mainstream LR voters went for Le Pen. By the same token, Nouvelle-Aquitaine(led by PS) went to Macron with Melanchon keeping it close between all three candidates.

[Arisyan]

Well, it appears I got a tad bit too excited as Le Pen now has a comfortable 600,000 vote lead over Melanchon. Seems like 2017 all over again, this time with an impending nuclear war to shake things up!

It also appears that Hidalgo came almost dead last, only getting beaten out for the position of last place by two minor leftist parties.

I think it's safe to assume that the Socialist Party is basically dead at this point.

[Madrinpoor]

Well, it appears I got a tad bit too excited as Le Pen now has a comfortable 600,000 vote lead over Melanchon. Seems like 2017 all over again, this time with an impending nuclear war to shake things up!

It also appears that Hidalgo came almost dead last, only getting beaten out for the position of last place by two minor leftist parties.

I think it's safe to assume that the Socialist Party is basically dead at this point.

It's been honestly rubble since 2017; this was just the last nail in the coffin of the Socialists and the Republicans.

[Arisyan]

Well, it appears I got a tad bit too excited as Le Pen now has a comfortable 600,000 vote lead over Melanchon. Seems like 2017 all over again, this time with an impending nuclear war to shake things up!

It also appears that Hidalgo came almost dead last, only getting beaten out for the position of last place by two minor leftist parties.

I think it's safe to assume that the Socialist Party is basically dead at this point.

It's been honestly rubble since 2017; this was just the last nail in the coffin of the Socialists and the Republicans.

Yeah, The Republicans technically didn't even field a candidate given that Pecresse is actually a member of Soyons Libres.

Plus, Pecresse only won a bit less than 5% of the vote, and for a while it was looking like she might've gotten into the second round. Same with Zemmour. Seems like the traditional duopoly has been officially broken, for better or worse.

[Perikuresu]

New Caledonia asks for another independence vote/referendum

[Neoliberal Consensus]

If Macron doesn't win, France risks losing demcoracy to fascist pro-Putin neo-Confederate demagogues. For the sake of making sure democracy dies in darkness we must call on all institutions across the civilized world to get out the vote and stand for democracy.

[Thermodolia]

New Caledonia asks for another independence vote/referendum

They got three chances. They boycotted the last one. They don’t get a fourth. The treaty they signed said they’d get only three chances. They knew what they were doing.

They don’t get another try

[Yawkland]

New Caledonia asks for another independence vote/referendum

They got three chances. They boycotted the last one. They don’t get a fourth. The treaty they signed said they’d get only three chances. They knew what they were doing.

They don’t get another try

I would love to be from an obscure country like New Caledonia. Imagine how much street cred you get from being from a country 99% of people don't know exist. You can just make up random bullshit and people will take your word for it.

[Thermodolia]

They got three chances. They boycotted the last one. They don’t get a fourth. The treaty they signed said they’d get only three chances. They knew what they were doing.

They don’t get another try

I would love to be from an obscure country like New Caledonia. Imagine how much street cred you get from being from a country 99% of people don't know exist. You can just make up random bullshit and people will take your word for it.

Well that just means your from France as New Caledonia isn’t an independent nation. It’s more like an autonomous republic within France.

[Antipatros]

Well, it appears I got a tad bit too excited as Le Pen now has a comfortable 600,000 vote lead over Melanchon. Seems like 2017 all over again, this time with an impending nuclear war to shake things up!

It also appears that Hidalgo came almost dead last, only getting beaten out for the position of last place by two minor leftist parties.

I think it's safe to assume that the Socialist Party is basically dead at this point.

It seems like the polling for the Macron/Le Pen match up is quite a bit closer than in 2017. I'd still put my bet on Macron winning, but we will see I suppose.

[Page]

And once again we all pray that the milquetoast neoliberal establishment lapdog wins because his opponent is a fucking fascist.

[Chan Island]

They got three chances. They boycotted the last one. They don’t get a fourth. The treaty they signed said they’d get only three chances. They knew what they were doing.

They don’t get another try

I would love to be from an obscure country like New Caledonia. Imagine how much street cred you get from being from a country 99% of people don't know exist. You can just make up random bullshit and people will take your word for it.

It gets annoying after a while tbf. And, more likely, people know exactly 2 things about that obscure country, and whether they are true or not don't matter.

Honestly, even on that front New Caledonia is better off as a part of France.

[The Blaatschapen]

I would think Le Pen voters would actually be pro-Putin, or am I way off? Has Le Pen actually moved a tad toward the center and is NOT like her batshit racist antisemitic fucker of a father?

Le Pen is more pro-Putin than most in France. She thinks the Ukraine invasion is wrong but thinks France and Russia could become allies if Putin moved out.

So, Russia and France allied again... Germany to build an army and move through Poland... Am I having a deja vu?