French Politics Thread I: Borne to be wild

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[Kowani]

Man who slapped Macron sentenced to 4 months in prison

[Kilobugya]

Man who slapped Macron sentenced to 4 months in prison

It's actually more : 4 months in prison immediately (he sent to the prison directly after the verdict), 14 months of suspended sentence (so he'll have to do those if he commits any other crime in the next few years), 3 years of inability to vote, and 5 years of inability to own any weapon (including the medieval swords he was fond of) and a few other things.

[Risottia]

Man who slapped Macron sentenced to 4 months in prison

It's actually more : 4 months in prison immediately (he sent to the prison directly after the verdict), 14 months of suspended sentence (so he'll have to do those if he commits any other crime in the next few years), 3 years of inability to vote, and 5 years of inability to own any weapon (including the medieval swords he was fond of) and a few other things.

I was hoping for something more ironic, like in treating him like an aristocrat.

[Kilobugya]

I was hoping for something more ironic, like in treating him like an aristocrat.

Well, in the good old medieval times he seems to like so much, an aristocrat who raised his hand against the King would have been like quartered or flayed. Sooooo... he's quite lucky he was treated as the citizen of an Enlightened Republic (even if imperfectly so) rather than an aristocrat in the absolute monarchy he seems to favor.

[Pomeron]

Man who slapped Macron sentenced to 4 months in prison

It's actually more : 4 months in prison immediately (he sent to the prison directly after the verdict), 14 months of suspended sentence (so he'll have to do those if he commits any other crime in the next few years), 3 years of inability to vote, and 5 years of inability to own any weapon (including the medieval swords he was fond of) and a few other things.

Personally, I think Macron should pardon him. Show his grace (if he has any - which he does not).

[Kilobugya]

Personally, I think Macron should pardon him. Show his grace (if he has any - which he does not).

In a different context, perhaps. In the current context of raising extreme-right violence, from death threats against leftists to attack against Muslims to ... it would send a very bad signal, IMHO.

[Kubra]

Personally, I think Macron should pardon him. Show his grace (if he has any - which he does not).

In a different context, perhaps. In the current context of raising extreme-right violence, from death threats against leftists to attack against Muslims to ... it would send a very bad signal, IMHO.

perhaps France should adopt US style turkey pardons, and then use that as the pretext to pardon him.
I mean, that'd be a great "fuck you".

[Kowani]

Ipsos exit poll, regional governor first rounds

Hauts de France
Bertrand (LR) 43,1
Chenu (RN) 24,4
Delli (EELV-PS-FI) 17,5
Pietraszewski (LREM) 8,5

Grand Est
Rottner (LR) 31,5
Jacobelli (RN) 20,7
Romani (EELV-PS) 14,3
Klinkert (LREM) 10,7

PACA
Mariani (RN) 34,8
Muselier (LR-LREM) 33,7
Felizia (EELV-PS) 15,2

Bourgogne-Franche-Comté
Dufay (PS) 26,2
Odoul (RN) 23,8
Platret (LR-DLF) 20,9
Thuriot (LREM) 12,7
Modde (EELV) 9,9

Centre-Val de Loire
Bonneau (PS) 25,6
Nikolic (RN) 21,7
Forissier (LR) 18,7
Fesneau (LREM) 15,5
Fournier (EELV) 11,4

Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes
Wauquiez (LR) 43,8
Grebert (EELV) 14
Kotarac (RN) 12,9
Vallaud-Belkacem (PS) 11,6
Bonnell (LREM) 9
Cukierman (PCF-FI) 5,8

[Thermodolia]

Ipsos exit poll, regional governor first rounds

Hauts de France
Bertrand (LR) 43,1
Chenu (RN) 24,4
Delli (EELV-PS-FI) 17,5
Pietraszewski (LREM) 8,5

Grand Est
Rottner (LR) 31,5
Jacobelli (RN) 20,7
Romani (EELV-PS) 14,3
Klinkert (LREM) 10,7

PACA
Mariani (RN) 34,8
Muselier (LR-LREM) 33,7
Felizia (EELV-PS) 15,2

Bourgogne-Franche-Comté
Dufay (PS) 26,2
Odoul (RN) 23,8
Platret (LR-DLF) 20,9
Thuriot (LREM) 12,7
Modde (EELV) 9,9

Centre-Val de Loire
Bonneau (PS) 25,6
Nikolic (RN) 21,7
Forissier (LR) 18,7
Fesneau (LREM) 15,5
Fournier (EELV) 11,4

Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes
Wauquiez (LR) 43,8
Grebert (EELV) 14
Kotarac (RN) 12,9
Vallaud-Belkacem (PS) 11,6
Bonnell (LREM) 9
Cukierman (PCF-FI) 5,8

A good showing for RN it seems.

[Kilobugya]

Ipsos exit poll, regional governor first rounds

Thanks, a major take from those elections is a very very low turnout, the worst ever. Probably a mix of people being exhausted by 16 months of Covid and just wanting to take advantage of the nice summer weather and coming holidays, not caring about anything "boring" like politics, and of the totally asphyxiating political climate created by the media.

The other important things is that both LREM (Macron) and RN (Le Pen) did poorly. It's mostly the traditional parties, PS (center-left) and LR (right) that did well. Which contrasts with the polls for the presidential election next year where PS/LR trend low, and Macron/Le Pen trend high.

A good showing for RN it seems.

Not really no, it was much less than they expected, less than what they got in last regional elections, and their only hope to take a region is in PACA and even there it will be tough for them in the second round.

[Kowani]

National Rally on track to lose support in every Metropolitan region in the second round of regional elections

HdF: -16,6
ARA: -11,2
OCC: -10
GES: -9
PdL: -8,9
BFC: -8,7
NOR : -7,4
CVL: -7,3
BRE : -5,5
PACA : -2,9
NAQ : -2,8
IdF : -2,2

[Kilobugya]

So basically the result of the regional elections is status quo : very low turnout, and all region were kept by the party that previously hold them, except La Réunion (oversea territory) that was taken from the right by a communist-led left coalition. Only good thing in my view is that the RN (extreme-right) didn't do well at all, worse than last elections. Macron also did very poorly.

On the departmental sides it was also mostly status quo, but there were a few shift, especially stinging for me is the loss of Val-de-Marne the last one with a communist president, to the right (but it was hanging by a thread already). Côte d'Armor (22) on the other side was taken from the right by a left coalition.

As for my party (PCF), despite losing 94, we took several seats in other places, especially in the north of France, in "Le Nord", we went from 4 to 9 seats, while RN went from 13 to 6 seats, I'm very glad to see us able to retake ground against RN like that.

[Ariddia]

On the departmental sides it was also mostly status quo, but there were a few shift, especially stinging for me is the loss of Val-de-Marne the last one with a communist president, to the right (but it was hanging by a thread already). Côte d'Armor (22) on the other side was taken from the right by a left coalition.

I'm in the Val-de-Marne, but in an LR canton. I voted for the PCF candidates in the first round (Favier has been doing a decent job for the département), but in the second round I had a "choice"' between LR or LREM, so I voted blank.

So: Disappointments in this election, but at least it gave the far-right a kick in the teeth.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Gratifying to see RN do worse than expected.

[Kilobugya]

Surreal politics, episode #4897.

After record low turnout, while a town in Canada was literally burned from the map due to climate change, while a pandemic is still raging, the Parliament is debating if... we should ban people from dancing and singing "non-French" during their wedding, what clothes teenaged girls should be allowed to wear in school, and if "burkini" should be allowed on beach this summer.

I mean... I usually don't swear but ... WTF ?!

[Kilobugya]

So Macron made a big speech yesterday, I didn't listen to it (I'm not into bdsm, at least not to that point) but I've read the "fallouts".

Part of his announces were about Covid and the 4th wave that's brewing. He made announces about lots of places (concerts, restaurants, ...) requiring either a vaccine or a recent PCR test, and about caregivers (in hospitals and elderly house) having to vaccinate. There is some outcry about it, and while like always with Macron, it's too few, too late, without sufficient preparation and for-planning, I mostly agree with those decisions. Freedom stops where you endanger others, and that's what not being vaccinated do.

The other part of his announces are much more worrisome - but those went mostly unseen, everyone focusing on his Covid-related announces. He wants to (again, despite being struck down by courts for the recklessness of how he did it) lower unemployment benefits, which is a bad idea in general, and a terrible one when the economy is still wrecked by a pandemic. And he still wants to go ahead with some retirement reform, making people work longer, despite him promising he won't in 2017, despite a high unemployment rate, despite the opposition of 60-70% of the population, and despite a massive month-long strike in winter 2019-2020 against it.

[Kowani]

Valérie Pécresse announces presidential candidacy

[Los-Altos]

Valérie Pécresse announces presidential candidacy

So is she any good.

Question, where do most of these politicians that run or have run for French Pres. come from. Have most of them come from the Paris region/ northern France. Have there been candidates from the more unknown parts of France or not. If given a chance, would the French voters for a Corsican (the last one being Napoleon who was not voted in) or must they be from the Paris region or its a no go. What I am trying to get across is do French politicians from Southern, Coastal or Eastern France have any chance of becoming French Pres.

[Madrinpoor]

*Gasp* Kowani graced my thread!

[Kowani]

*Gasp* Kowani graced my thread!

i've been in here before
france just sort of... dropped off my radar

[The Blaatschapen]

Valérie Pécresse announces presidential candidacy

So is she any good.

Question, where do most of these politicians that run or have run for French Pres. come from. Have most of them come from the Paris region/ northern France. Have there been candidates from the more unknown parts of France or not. If given a chance, would the French voters for a Corsican (the last one being Napoleon who was not voted in) or must they be from the Paris region or its a no go. What I am trying to get across is do French politicians from Southern, Coastal or Eastern France have any chance of becoming French Pres.

Pompidou, d'Estaing, Mitterrand. None born in Northern France, including Paris.

[Kilobugya]

So is she any good.

Nope, she's a disaster. Homophobic bigot, her "reforms" of university when she was minister were disastrous, and she wrecked havoc in Ile-de-France since she took power, give massive amount of money to corporations with absolutely no conditions and no significant job creation, while she cut the budget of social housing and key public transports are getting worst with each passing year due to lack of upkeep.

Question, where do most of these politicians that run or have run for French Pres. come from. Have most of them come from the Paris region/ northern France.

Not really no... Miterrand was from Charente (center), Chirac from Corrèze (south-center), Sarkozy from Paris' suburb, Hollande from Rouen (north-west), Macron from La Somme (north-west). Most of them lived/worked in Paris for a while before being president, true, but they come from different parts of the country. Place of birth/childhood of candidates don't matter much, apart that they tend to get a boost from the people living in that area.

Have there been candidates from the more unknown parts of France or not. If given a chance, would the French voters for a Corsican (the last one being Napoleon who was not voted in) or must they be from the Paris region or its a no go. What I am trying to get across is do French politicians from Southern, Coastal or Eastern France have any chance of becoming French Pres.

Most French people wouldn't mind voting for a Corsican or a "Southern, Coastal or Eastern" candidate, depending which one of course.

[Kowani]

Macron sues billboard operator for depicting him as Hitler in a banner

[Kubra]

Total aside, but how tf do you pronounce rie