100 million dollars for 1,000 Years of No Abortions

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Hard decline, as much as I'd love to have that much money, I wouldn't be able to live with myself knowing the extreme suffering being inflicted on people, especially rape victims. Even if I gave 100% of it to charity, the good done wouldn't come close to offsetting the suffering by the magical abortion block.

[Ethel mermania]

This is an obvious no. Besides being a ridiculous underask, 1,000 years locked into one decision? Nah, you should at least entertain that possibility you could have the wrong view especially on that long a time scale. I mean, Blaat found a monkeypaw loophole in like 15 seconds.

That's not even taking into the account the exception. Does the Supernatural Entity have to decide if an abortion is "necessary for the survival of the mother" or is it up to the doctor and woman involved? If it's the later, you're going to see a sudden near 100% rate of medically necessary abortions. If it's the former, man, this Supernatural Entity must get beat up a lot by his supernatural entity buddies. He just doomed himself to 1,000 years of medical bureaucracy.

That will teach him

Or

and it just goes to show even god has a hell.


Pick your preferred response

[Luna Amore]

This is an obvious no. Besides being a ridiculous underask, 1,000 years locked into one decision? Nah, you should at least entertain that possibility you could have the wrong view especially on that long a time scale. I mean, Blaat found a monkeypaw loophole in like 15 seconds.

That's not even taking into the account the exception. Does the Supernatural Entity have to decide if an abortion is "necessary for the survival of the mother" or is it up to the doctor and woman involved? If it's the later, you're going to see a sudden near 100% rate of medically necessary abortions. If it's the former, man, this Supernatural Entity must get beat up a lot by his supernatural entity buddies. He just doomed himself to 1,000 years of medical bureaucracy.

That will teach him

Or

and it just goes to show even god has a hell.


Pick your preferred response

Oo ooh, #2 #2!

[Ethel mermania]

That will teach him

Or

and it just goes to show even god has a hell.


Pick your preferred response

Oo ooh, #2 #2!

Its tough when you have two immediate lines.

[United Earthlings]

Ok, after thinking over your hypothetical, this is what I've come up with.

To start off with, your hypothetical fails the logic test, since after just a general review, the number of glaring loopholes is sadly, laughable.

Second, if a supernatural entity is coming to you in the first place, that means they are already open to negotiation and to haggling.

Third, as they are clearly presenting you with a false choice, the question then becomes what values do you consider to be the most important toward some unclear end goal.

If the end goal is the end of abortions, to make things better for society in some unspecified general sense or some combination of the two. One merely then has to decide which goal element has the higher priority and therefore value.

Given the ability to use supernatural magic, there is quite a few ways one can end all abortions, some more intrusive then others.

However, for the sake of argument and since I believe the following option I've selected is more in line with keeping with the spirt of this wierd hypotethical, I present the following...

Keeping in mind the end goal of ending all abortions as the goal to reach, then why not address it from the opposite spectrum.

Why not merely have 100 million dollars for 1,000 years of no births {no pregnancy}. The end result is the same and statistically would have larger net positive effect on human society.

That stated, since this entire hypothetical is about what one values, why couldn't one simply assign a lesser value, but still claim some money as a value.

No reason one couldn't say haggle for 5 million dollars for 50 years of in this case no births, since the exchange ratio would be the same. If I value the 5 million dollars more, then the 100 million, then that's my choice.

Tl;DR: Don't give people false choices and nothing has meaning or value until we give it value or meaning.

[The united states of sonindia]

100 million is puny and at most you could build some parks. Easy no.

are you rich or something

[Stellar Colonies]

And to answer the question, I would not.

[Drew Durrnil]

I got issue 268 right when I was reading this topic lmao

Anyways, since 100 million is an extremely small amount, no.

[Atheris]

Absolutely not.

[Western Theram]

no, i don't care for money, even if i did i would still say no because that's an absurd thing to consider. taking away a woman's right to choose because someone offered you money ? youll eventually die and theres no way to take your material wealth to the void with you whereas women would continue to get fucked over years after you're gone
sounds like everyone loses to me

[Ethel mermania]

Ok, after thinking over your hypothetical, this is what I've come up with.

To start off with, your hypothetical fails the logic test, since after just a general review, the number of glaring loopholes is sadly, laughable.

Second, if a supernatural entity is coming to you in the first place, that means they are already open to negotiation and to haggling.

Third, as they are clearly presenting you with a false choice, the question then becomes what values do you consider to be the most important toward some unclear end goal.

If the end goal is the end of abortions, to make things better for society in some unspecified general sense or some combination of the two. One merely then has to decide which goal element has the higher priority and therefore value.

Given the ability to use supernatural magic, there is quite a few ways one can end all abortions, some more intrusive then others.

However, for the sake of argument and since I believe the following option I've selected is more in line with keeping with the spirt of this wierd hypotethical, I present the following...

Keeping in mind the end goal of ending all abortions as the goal to reach, then why not address it from the opposite spectrum.

Why not merely have 100 million dollars for 1,000 years of no births {no pregnancy}. The end result is the same and statistically would have larger net positive effect on human society.

That stated, since this entire hypothetical is about what one values, why couldn't one simply assign a lesser value, but still claim some money as a value.

No reason one couldn't say haggle for 5 million dollars for 50 years of in this case no births, since the exchange ratio would be the same. If I value the 5 million dollars more, then the 100 million, then that's my choice.

Tl;DR: Don't give people false choices and nothing has meaning or value until we give it value or meaning.

Jesus christ its a fucking light hearted hypothetical, not a life or death issue.

[The Remote Islands]

Destroying women's right to choose, unleashing vindictive pain on those women, and dealing with the untold sociological consequences of such a thing, all for a mere fraction of Jeff Bezos's wealth? Can't say that's a good deal, mate.

[The Lone Alliance]

You might want to account to WHY said super nautral entity wants to ban abortion for such a time period. The very fact that this entity works in curses instead of simply magically making the baby survive all attempts at abortion makes it clear that this entity is malignant and enjoys the suffering for others, which clearly marks it as an evil entity.

Maybe there's some fated "Anti-Christ" like child that is to be born that once born will plunge all of humanity into a life ending future of suffering and oppression that will ultimately consume all life on earth?

If a parent knows this fate then they definitely would abort said child to prevent the end of the world, your abortion ban has sealed the earth's fate and now everyone on the planet is going to die including the unborn babies.


On a lesser note imagine all the lawsuits when people eventually realize you're the reason tons of people are getting brutally cursed for trying to have an abortion, curses could count as a supernatural form of torture and since the entity cannot be charged, you'll have to do.

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The fact that they're appealing to Greed instead of good nature is another Black Mark against this supernatural creature's morals.

Either way even if you're completely ammoral and pro-life there is literally no good reason to trust that such an entity doesn't have darker motives, especially one that seems obviously malicious.

If you're really Pro-life you would refuse simply on the off chance that this is a trick by some form of ultimate evil.
If you're an ammoral sociopath you would say no simply because this creature is also a sociopath and it's clear they cannot be trusted not to screw you over.
100 million isn't worth dying because abortion was the only thing keeping the universe from ending... and why should you care if unborn babies die anyway, you're a Sociopath.

[Ancapimania]

Absolute YES
You can invest that money and make 1 trillion dollars then you can start a corporation and get trillions of dollars
Smart

[The Lone Alliance]

Absolute YES
You can invest that money and make 1 trillion dollars then you can start a corporation and get trillions of dollars
Smart

Turns out Baby Satan had just been conceived and the earth gets plunged into hell one year later.
You are now dead and\or on fire, not so smart now are you?

[Infected Mushroom]

Absolute YES
You can invest that money and make 1 trillion dollars then you can start a corporation and get trillions of dollars
Smart

If you’re a skilled investor then yes

Are you skilled at investing?

[Infected Mushroom]

I got issue 268 right when I was reading this topic lmao

Anyways, since 100 million is an extremely small amount, no.

Oh? What a coincidence

[Syndic Australia]

The ONE EXCEPTION to this rule however, is where the abortion is absolutely necessary for the literal survival of the mother (those can and will still work).

This feels to me less like a hypothetical and more like a "How much would it cost to make you agree/comply with my/this specific pro-life view" with this exception, which is one of the few exceptions that commonly exist in legislation in places where abortion is otherwise banned. I'd take it more seriously if it was a hypothetical with no exceptions.

In any case, it would still be an absolute no from me - no amount of personal gain, monetary or otherwise, is worth anything near the amount of human suffering accepting this magical bribe would cause. There's no way any amount of money could be invested to counter the effects of this magic (as money isn't quite a universal solution) and, like a lot of others have said, the amount specified is relatively paltry.

[Mercatus]

Fuck yes. Get some cash AND make baby murder impossible? I'll take it, and then ask that entity to renew this contract every millenium.

With this kind of deal, I can buy cool shit and have a clear conscience that my tax dollars don't go to fund the killing of innocent children.

[Mercatus]

Absolute YES
You can invest that money and make 1 trillion dollars then you can start a corporation and get trillions of dollars
Smart

Turns out Baby Satan had just been conceived and the earth gets plunged into hell one year later.
You are now dead and\or on fire, not so smart now are you?

Then he gets to play Doom II in real life.

You gotta think about these things man.

[Universil-Unoyz Wintarros]

A win win. The sacrifice is negligible, two good things happen and one bad thing happens
Good: no abortion for a millenium and I am rich. Bad: rape and incest cannot be aborted.

[The Free Joy State]

A win win. The sacrifice is negligible, two good things happen and one bad thing happens
Good: no abortion for a millenium and I am rich. Bad: rape and incest cannot be aborted.

For you, the sacrifice is "negligible". For the women and girls whose lives will be destroyed as a result of your decision... not so much. Nor for the women who will be unable to leave abusive partners due to being forced to remain pregnant.

Would you still have made the same choice if everyone who had to suffer for a thousand years knew that the reason was because you -- personally (as in knew your name and where you lived) -- opted to take money to take their rights away?

EDIT: I ask because some feel that anonymity imbalances the taking the money side, giving it no apparent negative for pro-lifers (unless The Lone Alliance is right, and it turns out that you do help bring about the birth of Satan).

[Sundiata]

I couldn't take the money in good conscience.

[Deacarsia]

I actually am very much on the fence about this.

On the one hand, I absolutely would love to have both the money and the prohibition on abortion, so it should seem like there would be no cost to this decision.

On the other hand, I am not sure if this deal would constitute a sin, as it actually might be a deal with the Devil, to which I would never agree.

Thus, I quite honestly am unsure of what to do in this sort of a situation.

[Disgraces]

Hell yeah; it's a little more restricting to how I'd like it, but it's ok, and in the great scheme of things, it's not a big deal.