100 million dollars for 1,000 Years of No Abortions

[Drongonia]

easy money methinks

What would you use the money for?

Something more moral than abortion. Perhaps blackjack and hookers?

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

What would you use the money for?

Something more moral than abortion. Perhaps blackjack and hookers?

Themepark as well?

[Drongonia]

Something more moral than abortion. Perhaps blackjack and hookers?

Themepark as well?

Perhaps. Would definitely spend the money on 1 (ONE) house in Auckland, though.

[My Political Fantasy]

Alternatively, a good title for this thought experiment: would you strike down Roe v Wade for 100 million dollars.

[The Blaatschapen]

Answered yes because whilst we would all like to think we would say no if you actually had that much money sat in front of you with no personal strings attached and nobody would know would you really actually say no? Most people's threshold for grabbing the money is significantly below one hundred million.

It's like all the people that would have done the Russian revolution without the death and how 100% of people would have resisted the Nazis or how everybody pretends they would be the three people that first campaigned against slavery. No you wouldn't be, you would fall foul of all the same pitfalls the people back then did and you would be at a very minimum complicit in the oppression by inactivity.

You are taking the money if it was real.

My understanding is that 100 million is quite a lot. I completely understand what you're saying.

And I just want my formations of ferocious fertile femmes.

[Ethel mermania]

My understanding is that 100 million is quite a lot. I completely understand what you're saying.

And I just want my formations of ferocious fertile femmes.

[The Huskar Social Union]

Nah, im not gona stop women from having abortions for 1k years.

[Zul-ar]

Not for that petty sum, I won't. I'd need enough money to effectively put in place reforms that make abortions less necessary worldwide, and then some for my troubles.

[Romextly]

To me, I just saved a couple million lives. I'll then pay the 100 million dollars to help pay if they are single mothers

[Kannap]

Please consider this very simple hypothetical (inspired by a very casual conversation at work):

A supernatural entity comes to you. She says to you, “I can give you 100 million dollars… but if you accept this money, then there will be a huge social cost. Immediately all over the world, magical forces will come into play and make abortions impossible to carry out for the next 1,000 years. Any attempts by individuals to work around these magical laws will not only fail but will also result in horrifying curses being placed on them.”

If you take the money… then the entire world will suddenly be bound by these all-powerful magical rules that make it impossible to carry out any and all abortions. The ONE EXCEPTION to this rule however, is where the abortion is absolutely necessary for the literal survival of the mother (those can and will still work). The world would be fundamentally altered by these new rules of magic.

After 1,000 years, the magical rules will be lifted and it will become possible for abortions to be carried out once again.

Please assume that the money would be transferred to you in a way that is legal, non-taxable, and recognized. However, no one would know the real reason you were paid.

Do you accept the money? Or would you consider the societal cost unacceptable?

It’s a lot of money and 100 million dollars can be used to change the world, but some things shouldn’t be bought and sold. What do you say?

This a very difficult decision to make (especially coming from a personally pro-abortion political perspective), but in the end I would take the money because it is quite a lot. The most important factor here is that the ban on abortions wouldn't be permanent (it's only for 1,000 years), meanwhile, the 100 million dollars can be used to make things better immediately.

I'd say take the money but then I don't want to be responsible for the unjust treatment of millions of unwanted children for the next 1,000 years. Sounds unbearable.

Not to mention the total human rights abuse that is removing women's bodily autonomy for one thousand fucking years, disgusting.

[Kannap]

However, no one would know the real reason you were paid.

This is a bit of a cop out.

Yes, really -- to make it truly balanced -- generations of women should know who to blame for their suffering.

And you should have to live through those 1,000 years. Punishment by temporary immortality.

[Arisyan]

Nope, definitely wouldn't take it. Not worth it, and money doesn't solve all problems.

[Foxanist Revolutionary State]

Shut up and take... i mean, give me my money :3

[Borderlands of Rojava]

I'm gonna need more money to agree to that, since we'll have to pay for all the kids.

[Luna Amore]

This is an obvious no. Besides being a ridiculous underask, 1,000 years locked into one decision? Nah, you should at least entertain that possibility you could have the wrong view especially on that long a time scale. I mean, Blaat found a monkeypaw loophole in like 15 seconds.

That's not even taking into the account the exception. Does the Supernatural Entity have to decide if an abortion is "necessary for the survival of the mother" or is it up to the doctor and woman involved? If it's the later, you're going to see a sudden near 100% rate of medically necessary abortions. If it's the former, man, this Supernatural Entity must get beat up a lot by his supernatural entity buddies. He just doomed himself to 1,000 years of medical bureaucracy.

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

I reckon to give me the money and the gov support women heavily for the absence of abortion or I cause a coup and do it myself with my new found wealth

[The Free Joy State]

This is an obvious no. Besides being a ridiculous underask, 1,000 years locked into one decision? Nah, you should at least entertain that possibility you could have the wrong view especially on that long a time scale. I mean, Blaat found a monkeypaw loophole in like 15 seconds.

That's not even taking into the account the exception. Does the Supernatural Entity have to decide if an abortion is "necessary for the survival of the mother" or is it up to the doctor and woman involved? If it's the later, you're going to see a sudden near 100% rate of medically necessary abortions. If it's the former, man, this Supernatural Entity must get beat up a lot by his supernatural entity buddies. He just doomed himself to 1,000 years of medical bureaucracy.

If it's the latter, I should just about have time to retrain as a doctor because -- technically -- every pregnancy has a risk of death.

I reckon to give me the money and the gov support women heavily for the absence of abortion or I cause a coup and do it myself with my new found wealth

Yes, one hundred million can do what $5.329 billion a year (and that's just on the American foster care system) has failed to do.

It's not even a drop in a bucket.

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

I reckon to give me the money and the gov support women heavily for the absence of abortion or I cause a coup and do it myself with my new found wealth

Yes, one hundred million can do what $5.329 billion a year (and that's just on the American foster care system) has failed to do.

It's not even a drop in a bucket.

Talking about using the money to get more money to use to fund a coup and take over as El Presidente

[The Free Joy State]

Yes, one hundred million can do what $5.329 billion a year (and that's just on the American foster care system) has failed to do.

It's not even a drop in a bucket.

Talking about using the money to get more money to use to fund a coup and take over as El Presidente

Good luck with that. You're looking at about 1/2 a billion.

Even in 1992, it cost nearly 200 million to run for President.

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

Talking about using the money to get more money to use to fund a coup and take over as El Presidente

Good luck with that. You're looking at about 1/2 a billion.

Even in 1992, it cost nearly 200 million to run for President.

Read again. I'm doing a coup

[The Free Joy State]

Good luck with that. You're looking at about 1/2 a billion.

Even in 1992, it cost nearly 200 million to run for President.

Read again. I'm doing a coup

One hundred million won't be enough to get the loyalty of the troops (it runs out quickly when you're throwing it around, you know) or the others you'd need to back you. So, I repeat: good luck with that.

[Ifreann]

Not for any amount of money would I trade away other people's rights.

[Kannap]

Not for any amount of money would I trade away other people's rights.

This is the logical answer, really. You'd have to be a monster to trade away other people's human rights.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

We'd actually be getting shafted by this eldritch God. You got enough money to like, be Mitt Romney, but in return no one can get an abortion. You wouldn't have enough money to care for all the unaborted kids being born in the ghetto and now I gotta deal with extra troublemakers in my town because guess what happens when there's too many mouths to feed, mom has to work 3 jobs and dad is like "aight, Ima head out"? Gangs, drug use, furries and people who think Initial D was a blueprint for how to drive on a 2 lane road.

[Comerciante]

Well... That's another childhood dream to toss out the window... thanks Rojava.