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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:42 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I dont think you have spent much time in Manhattan

Manhattan is the best part of New York.

You clearly know nothing about New York then if all you can think of is pretty buildings and Time Square.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:48 pm

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Grinning Dragon wrote:I'm with Therm, I too prefer my truck and the ability to drive where I need to get to, instead of a designated stop. Pretty impossible to haul most bulk items on public transportation, not to mention when I go to the range, most public transportation won't let you on with firearms even cased or even have a route that goes to a range. Driving my self gives me more freedom to do it the way I want.


This^^

I'm all for public transit but it doesn't work for everyone for a lot of reasons.

Or all the time. Its faster to commute downtown by public transport here than any other method. Going cross the city, its two hours on train vs a 45 minute drive.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:50 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I dont think you have spent much time in Manhattan

Manhattan is the best part of New York.

Maybe, but the population is mostly transplants moving to NYC for various reasons. The natives are pushed out of the city in the gentrification process.
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Postby Sundiata » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:51 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Manhattan is the best part of New York.

You clearly know nothing about New York then if all you can think of is pretty buildings and Time Square.
Manhattan is where my school was. I just never liked the rest of New York State or the culture.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:52 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:You clearly know nothing about New York then if all you can think of is pretty buildings and Time Square.
Manhattan is where my school was. I just never liked the rest of New York State or the culture.

I may owe you an apology, where you go?
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Postby Sundiata » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:13 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Manhattan is where my school was. I just never liked the rest of New York State or the culture.

I may owe you an apology, where you go?

Collegiate.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:33 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:I may owe you an apology, where you go?

Collegiate.

Fancy, :)

but look around that neighborhood. All 5he poor people have been displaced by the out of town rich. There is old money there, but all that new construction ain't for the poor or middle class.
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Postby Sundiata » Fri Mar 05, 2021 1:52 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Collegiate.

Fancy, :)

but look around that neighborhood. All 5he poor people have been displaced by the out of town rich. There is old money there, but all that new construction ain't for the poor or middle class.

It's a gross situation and we've got to do everything we can as a government to lift people up.
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Postby Bienenhalde » Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:06 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Every city I’ve lived in requires you to drive to get anywhere so it’s really no different than the suburbs. Hell some cities, like Mesa, are just giant suburbs.

Basically I like the suburbs. Not as crazy as the city yet not as far out as the country.


The car-centric urban planning charactistic of many southern and western US cities is an absolute crime against nature. I understand walking everywhere or using public transport isn't feasible in rural areas, but if you have to drive everywhere in the city, then you are forgoing one of the chief advantages of urban living.

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Postby Bienenhalde » Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:14 pm

Also, I don't think it is exactly fair to say cities are lacking in good culture when they are home to some many art museums, symphonies, and historical sites. But to be fair, if you are talking about the culture of plebian urban-dwellers, yes, that generally does seem to be rather trashy.

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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:26 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:Also, I don't think it is exactly fair to say cities are lacking in good culture when they are home to some many art museums, symphonies, and historical sites. But to be fair, if you are talking about the culture of plebian urban-dwellers, yes, that generally does seem to be rather trashy.


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Postby Sundiata » Fri Mar 05, 2021 2:34 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:Also, I don't think it is exactly fair to say cities are lacking in good culture when they are home to some many art museums, symphonies, and historical sites. But to be fair, if you are talking about the culture of plebian urban-dwellers, yes, that generally does seem to be rather trashy.

Working class urban people? I don't really blame them to be honest.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:11 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:Also, I don't think it is exactly fair to say cities are lacking in good culture when they are home to some many art museums, symphonies, and historical sites. But to be fair, if you are talking about the culture of plebian urban-dwellers, yes, that generally does seem to be rather trashy.


I agree its a a very unfair assessment and I don't know where the notion comes from.

what is plebian urban dweller?

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:50 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Also, I don't think it is exactly fair to say cities are lacking in good culture when they are home to some many art museums, symphonies, and historical sites. But to be fair, if you are talking about the culture of plebian urban-dwellers, yes, that generally does seem to be rather trashy.


I agree its a a very unfair assessment and I don't know where the notion comes from.

what is plebian urban dweller?

People in the ghetto.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:51 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I agree its a a very unfair assessment and I don't know where the notion comes from.

what is plebian urban dweller?

People in the ghetto.


What are you defining as the ghetto?

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:52 pm

San Lumen wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:People in the ghetto.


What are you defining as the ghetto?

Where the poor people live.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Mar 05, 2021 3:58 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What are you defining as the ghetto?

Where the poor people live.


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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:15 pm

City, because its where i live.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:16 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What are you defining as the ghetto?

Where the poor people live.

Sup my bro choskie, reporting in from the most deprived constituency in the UK which is also part of a city.
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:16 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Where the poor people live.

Sup my bro choskie, reporting in from the most deprived constituency in the UK which is also part of a city.

Belfast North?

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:17 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Sup my bro choskie, reporting in from the most deprived constituency in the UK which is also part of a city.

Belfast North?

West.

North is the third most deprived.
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Postby Dresderstan » Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:21 pm

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Belfast North?

West.

North is the third most deprived.

Ahh that was gonna be my second guess, it's the only other SF seat in the city I know.

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Postby Atheris » Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:22 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
What are you defining as the ghetto?

Where the poor people live.

Not to go all "Grammatik Macht Frei," but that would be something like a "low income area". A ghetto is just a place categorized by having a population made up primarily of a national minority, like a Chinatown, Little Italy, or the Grey Quarter. They're not always slums (although they usually are, sadly).
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Postby Bienenhalde » Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:27 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Bienenhalde wrote:Also, I don't think it is exactly fair to say cities are lacking in good culture when they are home to some many art museums, symphonies, and historical sites. But to be fair, if you are talking about the culture of plebian urban-dwellers, yes, that generally does seem to be rather trashy.

Working class urban people? I don't really blame them to be honest.


Well, to be fair, it is probably more a result of the influence of environmental factors like advertising and mass media rather than the people themselves. But cities do tend to be lacking in any sort of authentic folk culture.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Mar 05, 2021 4:32 pm

Bienenhalde wrote:
Sundiata wrote:Working class urban people? I don't really blame them to be honest.


Well, to be fair, it is probably more a result of the influence of environmental factors like advertising and mass media rather than the people themselves. But cities do tend to be lacking in any sort of authentic folk culture.

How do they lack it?

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