City Vs Country: What do you prefer?

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

It's a tough choice for me. Guess I don't really have a preference.

I used to live in the suburbs and hated it because I thought it was boring, and I was a teen who couldn't drive.

Ah, see, what you do is buy a trail-bike. You probably don't need a license to ride that on a trail. But you're not going to ride it on a trail, you're going to live free and ride the thing any time of the night or day, anywhere you want. Even with the default muffler it's annoyingly loud, but you can take that off if you want the real Fuck Everyone experience. You will attract cops like shit attracts flies, but that's where it gets really fun: because a motorbike can go lots of places a cop car can't, and even if motorcycle cops get on your tail, you can lose them in the mud.

Not really. I hate trail bikers actually. They get all the best girls, or best deaf girls, anyway.

The only thing I really have against cities is mostly the politics. I'd want to live somewhere where everything I need is within walking distance, with stuff to do, but I don't necessarily like the hustle-bustle of city-life either, so I wouldn't want to live in NYC, for example.

It's the hustle I don't like. Anyone who seems friendly for no particular reason, is probably after your money. Not sure what you mean by 'the politics' tho?

[Ethel mermania]

I think cities tend to be more collectivist in nature? Not sure if that's the right word.

I don’t think that’s the word your looking for.

I think The peoples republic of NYC, covers the issue.

[San Lumen]

I don’t think that’s the word your looking for.

I think The peoples republic of NYC, covers the issue.

What do you mean by that?

[Ethel mermania]

I think The peoples republic of NYC, covers the issue.

What do you mean by that?

How "progressive" the city is.

[San Lumen]

What do you mean by that?

How "progressive" the city is.

Ah. Madison and Austin often get referred to in that manner as well and I don’t like the term.

[Luziyca]

City, if only because you don't need a fucking car to go anywhere in a reasonable amount of time.

[Ethel mermania]

How "progressive" the city is.

Ah. Madison and Austin often get referred to in that manner as well and I don’t like the term.

Unfortunately I think it fits.

[San Lumen]

City, if only because you don't need a fucking car to go anywhere in a reasonable amount of time.

Thats one of the things I prefer most about cities.

Ah. Madison and Austin often get referred to in that manner as well and I don’t like the term.

Unfortunately I think it fits.

I think its derogatory.

[Ethel mermania]

City, if only because you don't need a fucking car to go anywhere in a reasonable amount of time.

Thats one of the things I prefer most about cities.

Unfortunately I think it fits.

I think its derogatory.

It is derogatory. However when our moron of a mayor talks about a tale of two cities.... or how riots are ok, but religious services are not. It fits.

[Kernen]

City, if only because you don't need a fucking car to go anywhere in a reasonable amount of time.

Eh. Get a car.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

I prefer cities myself as I grew up in one. It's the setting I'm used to and I like it because of accessibility of services and the multi-culturalism. After living 10 years in a semi-rural setting and having to travel 5 hours to get to an international airport, and 3 hours to be able to go to a mall (of all places) or find medical specialists, I'm glad we moved back to a suburb near a major city. The most I have to drive to get to see a doctor is 15 minutes. And if I want to travel, the airport is 20 minutes away.

Don't get me wrong, the countryside has its charm, but I can't live so remotely as I did. It's not for me. I find it too stifling.

[San Lumen]

City, if only because you don't need a fucking car to go anywhere in a reasonable amount of time.

Eh. Get a car.

In many cities you don’t need one.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

Eh. Get a car.

But that’s so much money!

And also a lot of effort given that I need to drive the ruddy thing.

[Kilobugya]

Eh. Get a car.

Why would I get a dangerous, polluting, expensive, burdensome to maintain, time-consuming, traffic-stuck transportation device when I can ride fast, clean, cheap, reliable, safe trains and metros and read a book during the transit ?

[Bienenhalde]

I think its derogatory.

It is a neutral term, whether or not its derogatory depends on context. Plenty of people proudly consider themselves to be progressives.

[Bienenhalde]

Eh. Get a car.

Why would I get a dangerous, polluting, expensive, burdensome to maintain, time-consuming, traffic-stuck transportation device when I can ride fast, clean, cheap, reliable, safe trains and metros and read a book during the transit ?

What if you could buy a non-polluting electric car?

[Kilobugya]

What if you could buy a non-polluting electric car?

Even an electric car is very polluting. Batteries are polluting and energy-intensives to produce, they tend to be heavier and therefore generate more secondary pollution such as microparticles from the tires, and depending how the electricity is made it can also be polluting to recharge. It's a bit better than internal combustion engine, but nowhere near the ecological efficiency of trains, metros or tramways.

[Zul-ar]

Eh. Get a car.

Why would I get a dangerous, polluting, expensive, burdensome to maintain, time-consuming, traffic-stuck transportation device when I can ride fast, clean, cheap, reliable, safe trains and metros and read a book during the transit ?

Literally this. Idc if public transport is crowded, anything is better than the goddamn death mobile that is the car.

[Ethel mermania]

Why would I get a dangerous, polluting, expensive, burdensome to maintain, time-consuming, traffic-stuck transportation device when I can ride fast, clean, cheap, reliable, safe trains and metros and read a book during the transit ?

Literally this. Idc if public transport is crowded, anything is better than the goddamn death mobile that is the car.

Cars = freedom

[Zul-ar]

Literally this. Idc if public transport is crowded, anything is better than the goddamn death mobile that is the car.

Cars = freedom

Not in the city, it isn't. It's styled in a grid, which makes things easier to find. There are many businesses packed into a small area, so you have a variety of options nearby. You can take the trains/bus, walk, bike, or even use a taxi/uber. You have plenty of affordable travel options that don't require you to constantly be paying attention while you sit in rush-hour traffic.

[Sundiata]

Definitely a city mouse. If I get more than about 50 miles away from a symphony orchestra my teeth start to itch. It's nice to visit the countryside sometimes but mostly to remind me why I prefer the city. Also if you are passing livestock on your way to work you live too far away from your job.

Well, it's nice to leave the city for the country to ride horses or go hunting on holiday but I still prefer the city life more.

[Ethel mermania]

Cars = freedom

Not in the city, it isn't. It's styled in a grid, which makes things easier to find. There are many businesses packed into a small area, so you have a variety of options nearby. You can take the trains/bus, walk, bike, or even use a taxi/uber. You have plenty of affordable travel options that don't require you to constantly be paying attention while you sit in rush-hour traffic.

Only during rush hour. Nights off hours, cars are always faster, and if you are moving a family cars are almost always cheaper.

Uber is expensive and rapes their drivers as far as pay goes. I will take a yellow or a local private car instead of an uber or lyft.

[Kilobugya]

Only during rush hour. Nights off hours, cars are always faster

But most people don't travel much at those times.

and if you are moving a family cars are almost always cheaper.

Not here, at least not for urban-level transport. Unlimited transport for all of Paris region (so about 12 000 square kilometers) is 80€/month, your employer has to pay half if you use it to go to work and the gov pays half for students or children (and it's free for kids younger than 4, soon to be 10), so even a family of 4 would mean paying 160€/month for unlimited public transports. There is just no way you pay for the car itself + the insurance + the upkeep + the gas for that price.

It's slightly more true for long distance travel, especially if you compare with TGV, but TGV is 300 km/h, so it's really another world in term of speed and comfort (you've tables, electrical plugs, wifi, restaurant service, ...).

Uber is expensive and rapes their drivers as far as pay goes.

On that I agree, few times I use a taxi (something heavy to carry or going back home late at night) I use a "regular" one, not Uber.

[San Lumen]

Definitely a city mouse. If I get more than about 50 miles away from a symphony orchestra my teeth start to itch. It's nice to visit the countryside sometimes but mostly to remind me why I prefer the city. Also if you are passing livestock on your way to work you live too far away from your job.

Well, it's nice to leave the city for the country to ride horses or go hunting on holiday but I still prefer the city life more.

Agreed I like spending time away from the city for getaways but could never live in the country long term.

[Ethel mermania]

Only during rush hour. Nights off hours, cars are always faster

But most people don't travel much at those times.

and if you are moving a family cars are almost always cheaper.

Not here, at least not for urban-level transport. Unlimited transport for all of Paris region (so about 12 000 square kilometers) is 80€/month, your employer has to pay half if you use it to go to work and the gov pays half for students or children (and it's free for kids younger than 4, soon to be 10), so even a family of 4 would mean paying 160€/month for unlimited public transports. There is just no way you pay for the car itself + the insurance + the upkeep + the gas for that price.

It's slightly more true for long distance travel, especially if you compare with TGV, but TGV is 300 km/h, so it's really another world in term of speed and comfort (you've tables, electrical plugs, wifi, restaurant service, ...).

Uber is expensive and rapes their drivers as far as pay goes.

On that I agree, few times I use a taxi (something heavy to carry or going back home late at night) I use a "regular" one, not Uber.

I am in nyc, we never sleep, (during normal times anyway).

If I take the family to the beach, its 3 trains and two fares. A little less than 3 hours each way, not worth going too. To drive, except during rush hour, 50 minutes, we'll worth a Beach day.

Trains are not as well subsidized here, if I were to take amtrack to Boston for 4, would be close to 700 dollars round trip. To drive its a tank and a half of gas 40 dollars, about 20 dollars in tolls, and wear and tear on the car. Much cheaper to drive with the family.