6 Dr. Seuss books no longer published due to racist imagery

[New Jeromia]

It does make sense assuming the offense with Seuss stops here which I am skeptical of. Hasn’t Cat in the Hat already been accused of being blackface? Isn’t Green Eggs and Ham really just a story of one person coercing consent?

Sorry for potentially double posting but I felt the need to comment here. In what world do people perceive a children's story about trying new food as a consent issue? From what I remember, the character refusing the food was never forced to eat it, just encouraged, also, FOOD AND SEX ARE DIFFERENT THINGS. I know, what a radical thing to say . Also how in the f**k is the cat in the hat blackfaced? He literally has a white face... People are actively seeking out things to cancel.

[Ethel mermania]

No, from a capitalist perspective it's a brilliant decision.

Gets Seuss name in the public, shows woke school admins, how woke they are, and schools continue to buy their books. This premepts "cancel seuss, he be racist". And it's free marketing, when is the last time you had a conversation about dr. Seuss?

I think I worded that wrong, or perhaps you misunderstood. I totally agree that the decision was more profitable to them, as opposed to editing the books. But that doesn't change the fact that the system is a bit messed up, where canceling things is the most profitable thing to do. But then you get to the point of having free markets or not... It just goes to a larger discussion.

Fair points

[Bombadil]

I don't know what it is about this topic that just annihilates all capacity for critical thought in some people but as has been noted over and over, these books haven't been in print for decades now. The Seuss foundation has done nothing here except to confirm that they will continue to not reprint these back catalogue books.

I've literally seen that nowhere, thanks for the info. The media portrays things a certain way to get these reactions. My point still stands, that they should continue to print amended versions of the books, but clearly it's not a new thing.

Well by a specific media catering to an audience who threw a hissy fit because their dear leader was banned from Twitter for inciting a riot at the Capitol in an attempt to cancel democracy, ironically, yet now canceling anything is a mortal sin even as they vote to cancel people's right to vote.

They've distorted something to the point it's almost just made up, imagine creating a made up issues that anger people to the point of violence..

..FOX, the Republican Party and batshit insane adherents to Trump are driving the US down a very violent road in anger that their massive privilege is being questioned.

Today, instead of discussing the $1.9T bill they were incensed over Pepe le Pew being left out of the next Space Jam movie.

Priorities.

[Miku the Based]

For those saying that the books shouldn't have been amended because Dr. Seuss isn't alive anymore and cannot consent, do you actually think ceasing publication is a better alternative? From what I understand, the man was very thoughtful and kind, so I'm sure he wouldn't have objected to changes to make his books more inclusive. Remember guys, we cannot erase history, but we can amend it. If you want more explanation watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDaldVHUedI

It's not the authors that determine history and the narrative but the editor. I wouldn't support putting words in someone else's mouth. Much rather explicitly state it is a derivation of the original work.

[New Jeromia]

Well by a specific media catering to an audience who threw a hissy fit because their dear leader was banned from Twitter for inciting a riot at the Capitol in an attempt to cancel democracy, ironically, yet now canceling anything is a mortal sin even as they vote to cancel people's right to vote.

They've distorted something to the point it's almost just made up, imagine creating a made up issues that anger people to the point of violence..

..FOX, the Republican Party and batshit insane adherents to Trump are driving the US down a very violent road in anger that their massive privilege is being questioned.

Today, instead of discussing the $1.9T bill they were incensed over Pepe le Pew being left out of the next Space Jam movie.

Priorities.

Though this is kind of funny, that's actually a good example of this sort of culture. Pepe le Pew was left out because of allegations of promoting rape culture and lack of consent. Although these are valid points, cancel culture insists on this unforgiving notion that people and companies that make these mistakes, (which by the way, they made this mistake more than 50 years ago when it was more acceptable) should be removed from society. Out of sight, out of mind. The funny thing is, the people who advocate for cancel culture generally support more lenient prison sentencing. They shouldn't have it both ways. I'm not agains the reform in this case, though I think the execution is poor and done with little to no effort for people who, for example, grew up watching the cartoon.

This is where I'd like to propose a new solution, a new culture. One of forgiveness and one where you can learn and grow from your mistakes. Instead of cancelling Pepe le Pew, why couldn't they just not write him as a sexist or rapist (or whatever he did that offended them, I'm not really educated on the details)? They're inadvertently showing themselves as unable to write the show in a non-offensive manner, which is a bad color for a children's cartoon company. For the Dr. Seuss example, perhaps they could amend the books to not include racial stereotypes. This "Amendment Culture" as I'm gonna refer to it, allows people to make mistakes, and when they are called out, they still have a chance at redeeming themselves.

So yes, coming back to your point, perhaps there are bigger issues in the world. But smaller things are easier to discuss. I wouldn't want to get into the financial details of the COVID relief bill, I'd much rather have a light-hearted debate about something small like this. Also, if nobody speaks up for the little things, they keep happening, and get worse over time.

Now, for the people who are gonna try to poke holes in this theory, I understand that both are private businesses. But the content they create is designed to appeal to the culture we live in, and that right now holds value to cancelling things that we don't agree with. Also people will say that Dr. Seuss's books shouldn't be printed because he cannot consent to a change, but to that I'd say, he also cannot consent for the ending of their publication, which would be a lot worse than a couple verses of change. Also, he was not a racist man, and I think if he was around today, he'd agree that things in his books were "of their time" and not acceptable today.

[The Blaatschapen]

Well by a specific media catering to an audience who threw a hissy fit because their dear leader was banned from Twitter for inciting a riot at the Capitol in an attempt to cancel democracy, ironically, yet now canceling anything is a mortal sin even as they vote to cancel people's right to vote.

They've distorted something to the point it's almost just made up, imagine creating a made up issues that anger people to the point of violence..

..FOX, the Republican Party and batshit insane adherents to Trump are driving the US down a very violent road in anger that their massive privilege is being questioned.

Today, instead of discussing the $1.9T bill they were incensed over Pepe le Pew being left out of the next Space Jam movie.

Priorities.

Though this is kind of funny, that's actually a good example of this sort of culture. Pepe le Pew was left out because of allegations of promoting rape culture and lack of consent. Although these are valid points, cancel culture insists on this unforgiving notion that people and companies that make these mistakes, (which by the way, they made this mistake more than 50 years ago when it was more acceptable) should be removed from society. Out of sight, out of mind. The funny thing is, the people who advocate for cancel culture generally support more lenient prison sentencing. They shouldn't have it both ways. I'm not agains the reform in this case, though I think the execution is poor and done with little to no effort for people who, for example, grew up watching the cartoon.

This is where I'd like to propose a new solution, a new culture. One of forgiveness and one where you can learn and grow from your mistakes. Instead of cancelling Pepe le Pew, why couldn't they just not write him as a sexist or rapist (or whatever he did that offended them, I'm not really educated on the details)? They're inadvertently showing themselves as unable to write the show in a non-offensive manner, which is a bad color for a children's cartoon company. For the Dr. Seuss example, perhaps they could amend the books to not include racial stereotypes. This "Amendment Culture" as I'm gonna refer to it, allows people to make mistakes, and when they are called out, they still have a chance at redeeming themselves.

So yes, coming back to your point, perhaps there are bigger issues in the world. But smaller things are easier to discuss. I wouldn't want to get into the financial details of the COVID relief bill, I'd much rather have a light-hearted debate about something small like this. Also, if nobody speaks up for the little things, they keep happening, and get worse over time.

Now, for the people who are gonna try to poke holes in this theory, I understand that both are private businesses. But the content they create is designed to appeal to the culture we live in, and that right now holds value to cancelling things that we don't agree with. Also people will say that Dr. Seuss's books shouldn't be printed because he cannot consent to a change, but to that I'd say, he also cannot consent for the ending of their publication, which would be a lot worse than a couple verses of change. Also, he was not a racist man, and I think if he was around today, he'd agree that things in his books were "of their time" and not acceptable today.

I am going to make some changes to your amendment culture.

And that, I am going to call the second amendment culture.

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Wait

[Bear Stearns]

Let's just start burning books. It's a lot more fun and a great way to stay warm.

[Vassenor]

Let's just start burning books. It's a lot more fun and a great way to stay warm.

That's not very free market of you, burning books because the IP rights holders announced they weren't going to publish a given book any more.

[Bear Stearns]

Let's just start burning books. It's a lot more fun and a great way to stay warm.

That's not very free market of you, burning books because the IP rights holders announced they weren't going to publish a given book any more.

?

[Vassenor]

That's not very free market of you, burning books because the IP rights holders announced they weren't going to publish a given book any more.

?

So why are we burning books?

[Bear Stearns]

?

So why are we burning books?

It's a lot more fun and a great way to stay warm.

[Ayytaly]

So why are we burning books?

It's a lot more fun and a great way to stay warm.

BYOB (Buy Your Own Book)

[Vassenor]

So why are we burning books?

It's a lot more fun and a great way to stay warm.

So you're making random asides that have nothing to do with the thread topic.

Or you're grasping at straws because you didn't do the reading.

[Bear Stearns]

BYOB (Buy Your Own Book)

[Bear Stearns]

So you're making random asides that have nothing to do with the thread topic.

Or you're grasping at straws because you didn't do the reading.

Get a load of this guy

[Vassenor]

So you're making random asides that have nothing to do with the thread topic.

Or you're grasping at straws because you didn't do the reading.

Get a load of this guy

Thought so.

[The Blaatschapen]

Let's just start burning books. It's a lot more fun and a great way to stay warm.

*dies of poisonous fumes from his e-reader*

[Ayytaly]

Let's just start burning books. It's a lot more fun and a great way to stay warm.

*dies of poisonous fumes from his e-reader*

You sure it was the fumes and not the explosion caused by igniting its lithium-ion battery?

[The Blaatschapen]

*dies of poisonous fumes from his e-reader*

You sure it was the fumes and not the explosion caused by igniting its lithium-ion battery?

Nah, that just made me incapable of going further away.

[Ayytaly]

You sure it was the fumes and not the explosion caused by igniting its lithium-ion battery?

Nah, that just made me incapable of going further away.

Wouldn't the fumes just make you groggy, thus unable to move away from the blast?

[Luna Amore]

It does make sense assuming the offense with Seuss stops here which I am skeptical of. Hasn’t Cat in the Hat already been accused of being blackface? Isn’t Green Eggs and Ham really just a story of one person coercing consent?

Sorry for potentially double posting but I felt the need to comment here. In what world do people perceive a children's story about trying new food as a consent issue? From what I remember, the character refusing the food was never forced to eat it, just encouraged, also, FOOD AND SEX ARE DIFFERENT THINGS. I know, what a radical thing to say . Also how in the f**k is the cat in the hat blackfaced? He literally has a white face... People are actively seeking out things to cancel.

No one mentioned sex. Consent applies to situation besides sex.

[Necroghastia]

Let's just start burning books. It's a lot more fun and a great way to stay warm.

Paper makes shitty fuel. It's not a great way to stay warm at all.

[New Jeromia]

Sorry for potentially double posting but I felt the need to comment here. In what world do people perceive a children's story about trying new food as a consent issue? From what I remember, the character refusing the food was never forced to eat it, just encouraged, also, FOOD AND SEX ARE DIFFERENT THINGS. I know, what a radical thing to say . Also how in the f**k is the cat in the hat blackfaced? He literally has a white face... People are actively seeking out things to cancel.

No one mentioned sex. Consent applies to situation besides sex.

Yeah, but he never forced the guy to eat the green eggs and ham. With sex, it's called sexual harassment. Do you want an "offering food harassment" charge or something to go in place? I just think that the same things don't really apply to offering people food.

[Dogmeat]

No one mentioned sex. Consent applies to situation besides sex.

Yeah, but he never forced the guy to eat the green eggs and ham. With sex, it's called sexual harassment. Do you want an "offering food harassment" charge or something to go in place? I just think that the same things don't really apply to offering people food.

Not unless it's surströmming.

That's a crime.

[Vassenor]

Yeah, but he never forced the guy to eat the green eggs and ham. With sex, it's called sexual harassment. Do you want an "offering food harassment" charge or something to go in place? I just think that the same things don't really apply to offering people food.

Not unless it's surströmming.

That's a crime.

Surströmming is not food. Surströmming is a bio-weapon.