6 Dr. Seuss books no longer published due to racist imagery

[Vassenor]

Anyway; what's done was done and it's not like they will be forced to print them again. Once the vultures loose interest and the prices drop to normal levels again; I might pick up one or two of them.

The books aren't going to drop to normal levels again, unless some warehouses full of unsold books are uncovered and released into circulation. People get that those works will become rare collectibles overtime because of scarcity, hence it'll be priced accordingly. If they refuse to print it anymore, then let it be public domain.

But what no one but me has talked about, is their role in teaching reading and developing curriculum guides for early childhood education of course featuring the books of Dr. Seuss. They take this role very seriously.

Its all or nothing for me. If they see it fit to not make their entire library of books available, then I see it fit to boycott all works by the author that could conceivably send any profits to them.

Again, why is it so vital to the national interest that you get to read these books?

[Ethel mermania]

The books aren't going to drop to normal levels again, unless some warehouses full of unsold books are uncovered and released into circulation. People get that those works will become rare collectibles overtime because of scarcity, hence it'll be priced accordingly. If they refuse to print it anymore, then let it be public domain.



Its all or nothing for me. If they see it fit to not make their entire library of books available, then I see it fit to boycott their entire library.

You’re not the target demographic for these books. I can assure you that they don’t care that a grown man isn’t reading One Fish, Two Fish.

One fish two fish
Red fish blue fish.
Black fish blue fish,
old fish new fish
This one has a little car

[The Black Forrest]

Anyway; what's done was done and it's not like they will be forced to print them again. Once the vultures loose interest and the prices drop to normal levels again; I might pick up one or two of them.

The books aren't going to drop to normal levels again, unless some warehouses full of unsold books are uncovered and released into circulation. People get that those works will become rare collectibles overtime because of scarcity, hence it'll be priced accordingly. If they refuse to print it anymore, then let it be public domain.

Sure they are. This is the way of things. Something like this gets announced and the vultures appear, buy them up, and charge 100 times the price. Already they have had to cut prices significantly down. It's annoying however I do laugh when I read about how somebody lost money on the effort.

[The Black Forrest]

The books aren't going to drop to normal levels again, unless some warehouses full of unsold books are uncovered and released into circulation. People get that those works will become rare collectibles overtime because of scarcity, hence it'll be priced accordingly. If they refuse to print it anymore, then let it be public domain.



Its all or nothing for me. If they see it fit to not make their entire library of books available, then I see it fit to boycott their entire library.

You’re not the target demographic for these books. I can assure you that they don’t care that a grown man isn’t reading One Fish, Two Fish.

It's almost like it's a good idea to have adults like these books and you know.....want to give them to children and grandchildren.

[Saiwania]

Sure they are. This is the way of things. Something like this gets announced and the vultures appear, buy them up, and charge 100 times the price. Already they have had to cut prices significantly down. It's annoying however I do laugh when I read about how somebody lost money on the effort.

Its only really an issue if someone has to recoup their money soon, or if they borrowed or spent more than they can afford to lose. They wait long enough, and those books will appreciate in value as collectables if the total supply is only going to decrease. But it is another question entirely if the demand exists which- there probably just isn't. Only so many collectors exist out there. It doesn't have the "cool/exotic" factor that actual Third Reich items have as one example.

During bad economic times, collectables aren't considered important enough, people look to sell and not buy if they need money now.

[Heloin]

You’re not the target demographic for these books. I can assure you that they don’t care that a grown man isn’t reading One Fish, Two Fish.

One fish two fish
Red fish blue fish.
Black fish blue fish,
old fish new fish
This one has a little car

That was the first English language book I read on my own.

[Heloin]

You’re not the target demographic for these books. I can assure you that they don’t care that a grown man isn’t reading One Fish, Two Fish.

It's almost like it's a good idea to have adults like these books and you know.....want to give them to children and grandchildren.

This is Sai we’re talking about.

[The Holy Therns]

Its all or nothing for me. If they see it fit to not make their entire library of books available, then I see it fit to boycott all works by the author that could conceivably send any profits to them. If their values or priorities aren't in sync with my own, then fine- I'll write them off as hopeless. Hopefully someone else might be able to buy off the rights if they ever run into any difficult times.

Does it matter? Were you regularly buying Dr. Seuss books until this announcement?

[The Black Forrest]

Sure they are. This is the way of things. Something like this gets announced and the vultures appear, buy them up, and charge 100 times the price. Already they have had to cut prices significantly down. It's annoying however I do laugh when I read about how somebody lost money on the effort.

Its only really an issue if someone has to recoup their money soon, or if they borrowed or spent more than they can afford to lose. They wait long enough, and those books will appreciate in value as collectables if the total supply is only going to decrease. But it is another question entirely if the demand exists which- there probably just isn't. Only so many collectors exist out there. It doesn't have the "cool/exotic" factor that actual Third Reich items have as one example.

During bad economic times, collectables aren't considered important enough, people look to sell and not buy if they need money now.

Value increase only works with first editions; author signed; special limited releases. These books at best would get oh 100$ in maybe 30+ years from now. Well after the artificial price hike reverses.

[The Holy Therns]

Its only really an issue if someone has to recoup their money soon, or if they borrowed or spent more than they can afford to lose. They wait long enough, and those books will appreciate in value as collectables if the total supply is only going to decrease. But it is another question entirely if the demand exists which- there probably just isn't. Only so many collectors exist out there. It doesn't have the "cool/exotic" factor that actual Third Reich items have as one example.

During bad economic times, collectables aren't considered important enough, people look to sell and not buy if they need money now.

Value increase only works with first editions; author signed; special limited releases. These books at best would get oh 100$ in maybe 30+ years from now. Well after the artificial price hike reverses.

You're reminding me of the 90s comics crash.

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

wish they did this and didn't tell anyone so i could be writing reading wild conspiracy theories instead of just bland racism and the usual Discourse^TM

[Ethel mermania]

One fish two fish
Red fish blue fish.
Black fish blue fish,
old fish new fish
This one has a little car

That was the first English language book I read on my own.

My earliest memories are of my mother teaching me to read with Dr. Seuss.

[Kuiper Stations]

I'm jewish, and a socialist, and I still support the publication of books like Mein Kampf. Not because they're some great fount of wisdom, but because I don't think erasing history is likely to help. Don't crack down too hard on idiots who like those things either. It's easier to keep track of dangerous individuals when they feel safe enough to be idiots in public than when they organise into cells, dress like sane people, and only communicate via encrypted onionland IRC.

[Vassenor]

I'm jewish, and a socialist, and I still support the publication of books like Mein Kampf. Not because they're some great fount of wisdom, but because I don't think erasing history is likely to help. Don't crack down too hard on idiots who like those things either. It's easier to keep track of dangerous individuals when they feel safe enough to be idiots in public than when they organise into cells, dress like sane people, and only communicate via encrypted onionland IRC.

So authors and their designated representatives should not be able to control their works?

[Kuiper Stations]

I'm jewish, and a socialist, and I still support the publication of books like Mein Kampf. Not because they're some great fount of wisdom, but because I don't think erasing history is likely to help. Don't crack down too hard on idiots who like those things either. It's easier to keep track of dangerous individuals when they feel safe enough to be idiots in public than when they organise into cells, dress like sane people, and only communicate via encrypted onionland IRC.

So authors and their designated representatives should not be able to control their works?

I don't believe in the concept of "intellectual property", no. That's not the point being discussed. My objection isn't that these people are discontinuing these books, it's that I don't like the idea of "deleting" anything.

[National Capitalist United States]

Sure they are. This is the way of things. Something like this gets announced and the vultures appear, buy them up, and charge 100 times the price. Already they have had to cut prices significantly down. It's annoying however I do laugh when I read about how somebody lost money on the effort.

Its only really an issue if someone has to recoup their money soon, or if they borrowed or spent more than they can afford to lose. They wait long enough, and those books will appreciate in value as collectables if the total supply is only going to decrease. But it is another question entirely if the demand exists which- there probably just isn't. Only so many collectors exist out there. It doesn't have the "cool/exotic" factor that actual Third Reich items have as one example.

During bad economic times, collectables aren't considered important enough, people look to sell and not buy if they need money now.

I think GTA 6 has a better chance of coming out this year than these books being considered "collectables"

[Atheris]

So authors and their designated representatives should not be able to control their works?

I don't believe in the concept of "intellectual property", no.

holy shit based

[New Jeromia]

For those saying that the books shouldn't have been amended because Dr. Seuss isn't alive anymore and cannot consent, do you actually think ceasing publication is a better alternative? From what I understand, the man was very thoughtful and kind, so I'm sure he wouldn't have objected to changes to make his books more inclusive. Remember guys, we cannot erase history, but we can amend it. If you want more explanation watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDaldVHUedI

[Nilokeras]

ceasing publication

I don't know what it is about this topic that just annihilates all capacity for critical thought in some people but as has been noted over and over, these books haven't been in print for decades now. The Seuss foundation has done nothing here except to confirm that they will continue to not reprint these back catalogue books.

[New Jeromia]

ceasing publication

I don't know what it is about this topic that just annihilates all capacity for critical thought in some people but as has been noted over and over, these books haven't been in print for decades now. The Seuss foundation has done nothing here except to confirm that they will continue to not reprint these back catalogue books.

I've literally seen that nowhere, thanks for the info. The media portrays things a certain way to get these reactions. My point still stands, that they should continue to print amended versions of the books, but clearly it's not a new thing.

[Heloin]

I don't know what it is about this topic that just annihilates all capacity for critical thought in some people but as has been noted over and over, these books haven't been in print for decades now. The Seuss foundation has done nothing here except to confirm that they will continue to not reprint these back catalogue books.

I've literally seen that nowhere, thanks for the info. The media portrays things a certain way to get these reactions. My point still stands, that they should continue to print amended versions of the books, but clearly it's not a new thing.

Sounds like a big waste of people's time when they could just do what they're doing and deciding that they officially won't print them again.

[New Jeromia]

Yes, from a strictly capitalist perspective it might not be profitable to resume publication. The argument is whether or not they should have ceased publication in the first place.

[Nilokeras]

Yes, from a strictly capitalist perspective it might not be profitable to resume publication. The argument is whether or not they should have ceased publication in the first place.

They shouldn't have stopped publishing obscure Seuss books in the 1980s because they weren't selling?

[Watchful Eyes]

I don't believe in the concept of "intellectual property", no.

holy shit based

^^^

[Ethel mermania]

Yes, from a strictly capitalist perspective it might not be profitable to resume publication. The argument is whether or not they should have ceased publication in the first place.

No, from a capitalist perspective it's a brilliant decision.

Gets Seuss name in the public, shows woke school admins, how woke they are, and schools continue to buy their books. This premepts "cancel seuss, he be racist". And it's free marketing, when is the last time you had a conversation about dr. Seuss?