Egypt Plans to Remove Qur’ân From Curriculum

[Salus Maior]

Someone just tell me,did the United Nations say that the Uyghur thing is a genocide ? The US said this,so how come it is a genocide ???

If the UN accepts that the Uyghur thing is a genocide,then mark my words,I am going to swallow my own words and beg for unconditional forgiveness from everyone in NSG....but untill that happens,I am not apologising...never.I never support genocide,true Communist can never support such things.Just do not forget,that Soviets defeated Nazi Germany and liberated thousands of concentration camps,US did nothing..

Unless it's the the religious, like you just said.

The Soviet Union also committed genocide, by the way. But that's another thread.

[Arvenia]

If the UN accepts that the Uyghur thing is a genocide,then mark my words,I am going to swallow my own words and beg for unconditional forgiveness from everyone in NSG....but untill that happens,I am not apologising...never.I never support genocide,true Communist can never support such things.Just do not forget,that Soviets defeated Nazi Germany and liberated thousands of concentration camps,US did nothing..

Unless it's the the religious, like you just said.

The Soviet Union also committed genocide, by the way. But that's another thread.

Also, do not forget the situation with the Rohingya people.

[Punished UMN]

That's true, but for things like understanding of the culture, and the influence of religion upon culture, it would be difficult to go without the Quran. And that's not even getting
into its influence on actual law.

Riddle me this.When did German culture have anything to do with the bible?

I'm not that familiar with German culture specifically, but I know that in many Western countries, cultural works extensively reference religion, and it seems unlikely that that's not the case with Germany historically.

[Salus Maior]

Unless it's the the religious, like you just said.

The Soviet Union also committed genocide, by the way. But that's another thread.

Also, do not forget the Rohingya genocide.

We can not forget about it in another thread. We're talking Egypt now.

[Arvenia]

Also, do not forget the Rohingya genocide.

We can not forget about it in another thread. We're talking Egypt now.

Exactly (I don't want to derail this thread).

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

Pick up a Bible, a Torah, or a Qu'ran. They're all pretty morally unjustifiable, especially when these books are said to be "the word of God himself".

Which is why it is necessary to eliminate all of them.

[Greater Cesnica]

Pick up a Bible, a Torah, or a Qu'ran. They're all pretty morally unjustifiable, especially when these books are said to be "the word of God himself".

Which is why it is necessary to eliminate all of them.

Define "eliminate all of them."

I also question the need to eliminate religious beliefs. I'm a practicing Muslim myself. I don't consider myself to be a religious extremist or an Islamist in any sense. Let me practice my faith, and I'll respect your beliefs, and vice-versa.

[Sannyamathland]

Pick up a Bible, a Torah, or a Qu'ran. They're all pretty morally unjustifiable, especially when these books are said to be "the word of God himself".

Which is why it is necessary to eliminate all of them.

Exactly.Not just eliminate but do every bit to ensure that the people do not discuss the contents of these books in the public.

[Greater Cesnica]

Which is why it is necessary to eliminate all of them.

Exactly.Not just eliminate but do every bit to ensure that the people do not discuss the contents of these books in the public.

Again, why is that necessary? I'm a practicing Muslim. Do you view Muslims and other religious people as threats to society inherently because of our faith, and our adherence to those books that you'd like to eliminate?

[Whitemore]

Which is why it is necessary to eliminate all of them.

Define "eliminate all of them."

I also question the need to eliminate religious beliefs. I'm a practicing Muslim myself. I don't consider myself to be a religious extremist or an Islamist in any sense. Let me practice my faith, and I'll respect your beliefs, and vice-versa.

I like this view, let people practice their faith in peace as long as they try not to attack me for my sexuality.

[Insaanistan]

Someone just tell me,did the United Nations say that the Uyghur thing is a genocide ? The US said this,so how come it is a genocide ???

If the UN accepts that the Uyghur thing is a genocide,then mark my words,I am going to swallow my own words and beg for unconditional forgiveness from everyone in NSG....but untill that happens,I am not apologising...never.I never support genocide,true Communist can never support such things.Just do not forget,that Soviets defeated Nazi Germany and liberated thousands of concentration camps,US did nothing..

The US also liberated many concentration camps.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Riddle me this.When did German culture have anything to do with the bible?

I'm not that familiar with German culture specifically, but I know that in many Western countries, cultural works extensively reference religion, and it seems unlikely that that's not the case with Germany historically.

C'mon you've studied history. What have Germans done historically except rape and pillage all of Europe and destroy more advanced civilizations than themselves

[Salus Maior]

Pick up a Bible, a Torah, or a Qu'ran. They're all pretty morally unjustifiable, especially when these books are said to be "the word of God himself".

Which is why it is necessary to eliminate all of them.

This isn't the right thread for your anti-theistic bigotry.

We're talking about Egypt, not whether religious people have the right to exist.

[Greater Cesnica]

Define "eliminate all of them."

I also question the need to eliminate religious beliefs. I'm a practicing Muslim myself. I don't consider myself to be a religious extremist or an Islamist in any sense. Let me practice my faith, and I'll respect your beliefs, and vice-versa.

I like this view, let people practice their faith in peace as long as they try not to attack me for my sexuality.

Of course. I don't get people who feel the need to impose what they view as morally correct upon others. Perhaps they're repressing their own feelings and compensating for that?

[Esperantujo 2]

The irony is the first Prophet of the Abrahamic religions was probably Akhenaten, an Egyptian pharaoh. Moses, the founder of Judaism, was probably Egyptian also.

[Caribbean Confederation]

The irony is the first Prophet of the Abrahamic religions was probably Akhenaten, an Egyptian pharaoh. Moses, the founder of Judaism, was probably Egyptian also.

... What

[Whitemore]

I like this view, let people practice their faith in peace as long as they try not to attack me for my sexuality.

Of course. I don't get people who feel the need to impose what they view as morally correct upon others. Perhaps they're repressing their own feelings and compensating for that?

I like to joke that severely bigoted people harbor hidden homosexual feelings as well and lash out at people open about who they like because they are jealous of them. But in all seriousness, It's just because they can't accept that someone doesn't follow their false Sky God and that they would be in a "unnatural" relationship. Proceeds to just ignore thousands of years of Gay History for the lols.

[Salus Maior]

The irony is the first Prophet of the Abrahamic religions was probably Akhenaten, an Egyptian pharaoh. Moses, the founder of Judaism, was probably Egyptian also.

Yeah, that connection is pretty weak.

[Greater Cesnica]

false sky God

We agree to disagree

[Whitemore]

false sky God

We agree to disagree

Of course! It's just my take after being raised in a heavily Baptist household.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The irony is the first Prophet of the Abrahamic religions was probably Akhenaten, an Egyptian pharaoh. Moses, the founder of Judaism, was probably Egyptian also.

People vastly overstate the importance of Akhenaten in religious history. His cult died with him and was unknown for literally thousands of years until we managed to piece together the story. Not to mention Judaism didn't exist until the Iron Age.

[Greater Cesnica]

We agree to disagree

Of course! It's just my take after being raised in a heavily Baptist household.

Ah, my condolences.

[Whitemore]

Of course! It's just my take after being raised in a heavily Baptist household.

Ah, my condolences.

It's fine, trust me! I was just joking about the False Sky God, I'm agnostic if anything and don't know what is true.

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

Exactly.Not just eliminate but do every bit to ensure that the people do not discuss the contents of these books in the public.

That seems a bit extreme. In fact, I want people discussing the specific contents of these holy books more. Their self-evidentially outdated nature will make itself painfully obvious in the free marketplace of ideas.

Prohibition, generally speaking, is not how you pull people out of the clutches of organised religion. The Soviets tried for seven decades and look where they are now - former-Communist Eastern Europe is now the bastion of Christendom, of both the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox flavours, and is the European heart of the reactionary politics that is the inevitable result of that.

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Define "eliminate all of them."

Change society in such a way as to minimise the number of people who believe in or are tempted to begin believing in any form of organised religion.

The means by which that can be achieved, though... I’m far less confident on that.

I also question the need to eliminate religious beliefs. I'm a practicing Muslim myself. I don't consider myself to be a religious extremist or an Islamist in any sense. Let me practice my faith, and I'll respect your beliefs, and vice-versa.

There can be no meaningful compromise between people who have fundamentally divergent perspectives on what is good and righteous.

Get back to me on “tolerance” when my transgender friends don’t have to fear for their safety.

[Sannyamathland]

Exactly.Not just eliminate but do every bit to ensure that the people do not discuss the contents of these books in the public.

Again, why is that necessary? I'm a practicing Muslim. Do you view Muslims and other religious people as threats to society inherently because of our faith, and our adherence to those books that you'd like to eliminate?

Yes you are right.I view each and every religious person as a threat to the society if they go about publicly displaying their religion.Why it has to be public ? Practise your religion inside your home and no one's gonna bother you,why show other people who or what you are ?
And I have no hard feelings against Muslims in particular.I hate every religious people,it doesn't matter if they are Muslims,Christians,Jewish,Hindus,Buddhists,each one of them.