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The Chinese Communist Party is right or wrong?

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I think that the CCP:

Is right about everything
29
4%
Is more often right than wrong
71
10%
Is more often wrong than right
359
52%
Is always in the wrong
230
33%
 
Total votes : 689

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Heloin
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Postby Heloin » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:12 pm

The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Was there really any need to do that?

I feel like people use these spice words for no reason.
Just keep it plain.

By using newspeak style portmanteaus? Yeah, real simple that.

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The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire
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Postby The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:12 pm

Quartia and Karafuto wrote:
The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire wrote:"I'm not sure who to believe!"
But... it's basically going to be an open shut case, right?
They're an authoritarian government that controls all information within their country.
Obviously, they know we're right and are lying to us.

The USA's government controls information, not to the same degree, but there have been plenty of cases of them spreading misinformation about other nations. At this point the PRC is the only nation that can rival the USA, so wouldn't they want to spread every rumor possible about them?

Difference is that US isn't covering up massive genocides facilitated by the state.
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Quartia and Karafuto
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Postby Quartia and Karafuto » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:12 pm

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There's simply no way to know if it is or isn't at the moment. Until then, I think that while China is far from perfect they're better than the USA.
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The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire
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Postby The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:13 pm

Heloin wrote:
The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire wrote:I feel like people use these spice words for no reason.
Just keep it plain.

By using newspeak style portmanteaus? Yeah, real simple that.

finna do a double think.
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New Jacobland
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Postby New Jacobland » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:13 pm

Quartia and Karafuto wrote:
The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire wrote:"I'm not sure who to believe!"
But... it's basically going to be an open shut case, right?
They're an authoritarian government that controls all information within their country.
Obviously, they know we're right and are lying to us.

The USA's government controls information, not to the same degree, but there have been plenty of cases of them spreading misinformation about other nations. At this point the PRC is the only nation that can rival the USA, so wouldn't they want to spread every rumor possible about them?


Please explain the horror stories of Uyghurs who escaped the internment camps. Explain the re-education camps themselves for that matter. The CCP has repeatedly admitted it has re-education camps.
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Heloin
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Postby Heloin » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:13 pm

Quartia and Karafuto wrote:
National Capitalist United States wrote:tHaT's CiA pRoPaGaNdA

There's simply no way to know if it is or isn't at the moment. Until then, I think that while China is far from perfect they're better than the USA.

Both sides is a bad way to look at genocide.

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Ancapimania
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Postby Ancapimania » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:14 pm

Quartia and Karafuto wrote:
The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire wrote:"I'm not sure who to believe!"
But... it's basically going to be an open shut case, right?
They're an authoritarian government that controls all information within their country.
Obviously, they know we're right and are lying to us.

The USA's government controls information, not to the same degree, but there have been plenty of cases of them spreading misinformation about other nations. At this point the PRC is the only nation that can rival the USA, so wouldn't they want to spread every rumor possible about them?

So you are telling lies,the USA has no control over the info being spread,they can deny it yes but they never get rid of it
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The powerful lands of America
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Postby The powerful lands of America » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:14 pm

The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire wrote:
Heloin wrote:By using newspeak style portmanteaus? Yeah, real simple that.

finna do a double think.

it mmakes sense that the chinese govermnts actions are not moral

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The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire
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Postby The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:14 pm

Quartia and Karafuto wrote:
National Capitalist United States wrote:tHaT's CiA pRoPaGaNdA

There's simply no way to know if it is or isn't at the moment. Until then, I think that while China is far from perfect they're better than the USA.

It isn't. Thought this got verified by multiple countries.

They're not better than the USA. They're both bad, but the US at least has an electable leadership position and isn't fostering modern death camps or committing Kristalnacht.
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Postby New Jacobland » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:16 pm

Quartia and Karafuto wrote:
National Capitalist United States wrote:tHaT's CiA pRoPaGaNdA

There's simply no way to know if it is or isn't at the moment. Until then, I think that while China is far from perfect they're better than the USA.


In the USA you don't get arrested for criticizing the Party in power. You're constitutionally protected from genocide or forced internment. You live in a democracy!
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Postby The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:17 pm

New Jacobland wrote:
Quartia and Karafuto wrote:There's simply no way to know if it is or isn't at the moment. Until then, I think that while China is far from perfect they're better than the USA.


In the USA you don't get arrested for criticizing the Party in power. You're constitutionally protected from genocide or forced internment. You live in a democracy!

Legit don't understand how anyone could even think arguing China > USA.
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Postby Ancapimania » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:18 pm

New Jacobland wrote:
Quartia and Karafuto wrote:There's simply no way to know if it is or isn't at the moment. Until then, I think that while China is far from perfect they're better than the USA.


In the USA you don't get arrested for criticizing the Party in power. You're constitutionally protected from genocide or forced internment. You live in a democracy!

Canada is a democracy but the USA is a flawed democracy,so your talking about Canada there
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New Jacobland
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Postby New Jacobland » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:20 pm

Ancapimania wrote:
New Jacobland wrote:
In the USA you don't get arrested for criticizing the Party in power. You're constitutionally protected from genocide or forced internment. You live in a democracy!

Canada is a democracy but the USA is a flawed democracy,so your talking about Canada there

Or my country Australia. :)
I do think however the USA's democracy is convoluted and weird, but at least they have more than one major party.
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Postby The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:22 pm

Ancapimania wrote:
New Jacobland wrote:
In the USA you don't get arrested for criticizing the Party in power. You're constitutionally protected from genocide or forced internment. You live in a democracy!

Canada is a democracy but the USA is a flawed democracy, so you're* talking about Canada there

... ???? What?

HOW?
I wanna know why you're arguing this.
Is it... 2 parties?
Most anglo-formed countries have 2 party majority
Is it... bad leaders?
So... just Trump then?
Is it... structure of government?
Implemented intentionally to keep balance, inherently centrist...
I don't see anything wrong.
Maybe the worst is claims of voter fraud, but that's all fake made by GOP.
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Postby New Jacobland » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:24 pm

The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire wrote:
Ancapimania wrote:Canada is a democracy but the USA is a flawed democracy, so you're* talking about Canada there

... ???? What?

HOW?
I wanna know why you're arguing this.
Is it... 2 parties?
Most anglo-formed countries have 2 party majority
Is it... bad leaders?
So... just Trump then?
Is it... structure of government?
Implemented intentionally to keep balance, inherently centrist...
I don't see anything wrong.
Maybe the worst is claims of voter fraud, but that's all fake made by GOP.

It's the fact the President isn't even electrd by the people. If you do some research, you can see the state legislature can appoint electors. The state popular vote could be rendered meaningless if the State government doesn't like the results.
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Ancapimania
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Postby Ancapimania » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:25 pm

The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire wrote:
Ancapimania wrote:Canada is a democracy but the USA is a flawed democracy, so you're* talking about Canada there

... ???? What?

HOW?
I wanna know why you're arguing this.
Is it... 2 parties?
Most anglo-formed countries have 2 party majority
Is it... bad leaders?
So... just Trump then?
Is it... structure of government?
Implemented intentionally to keep balance, inherently centrist...
I don't see anything wrong.
Maybe the worst is claims of voter fraud, but that's all fake made by GOP.

Idk but some experts say so,I think it's because it has lots of partys
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Postby New Jacobland » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:25 pm

If you google the Democracy Index it has more details on how the scale is made.
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Celestial Splendor Tianxia
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Postby Celestial Splendor Tianxia » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:25 pm

PRC committing genocide on Uyghur people? LOL ok. That is why they are building Mosques in Xinjiang? Naive fool.

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Postby National Capitalist United States » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:27 pm

Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:PRC committing genocide on Uyghur people? LOL ok. That is why they are building Mosques in Xinjiang? Naive fool.

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Postby Ancapimania » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:27 pm

Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:PRC committing genocide on Uyghur people? LOL ok. That is why they are building Mosques in Xinjiang? Naive fool.

You are a troller
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Postby My Political Fantasy » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:27 pm

Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:PRC committing genocide on Uyghur people? LOL ok. That is why they are building Mosques in Xinjiang? Naive fool.

Pog?
A combination of the neutrality of Switzerland, the military capabilities of Israel, and the authoritarian governance of Russia.
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The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire
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Postby The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:27 pm

New Jacobland wrote:
The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire wrote:... ???? What?

HOW?
I wanna know why you're arguing this.
Is it... 2 parties?
Most anglo-formed countries have 2 party majority
Is it... bad leaders?
So... just Trump then?
Is it... structure of government?
Implemented intentionally to keep balance, inherently centrist...
I don't see anything wrong.
Maybe the worst is claims of voter fraud, but that's all fake made by GOP.

It's the fact the President isn't even electrd by the people. If you do some research, you can see the state legislature can appoint electors. The state popular vote could be rendered meaningless if the State government doesn't like the results.

Fair.
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New Jacobland
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Postby New Jacobland » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:27 pm

Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:PRC committing genocide on Uyghur people? LOL ok. That is why they are building Mosques in Xinjiang? Naive fool.


This is flaming.

Why are they building re-education camps in Xinjiang. Why are they forcefully brainwashing Uyghurs out of their religion?
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Postby The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:28 pm

Ancapimania wrote:
The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire wrote:... ???? What?

HOW?
I wanna know why you're arguing this.
Is it... 2 parties?
Most anglo-formed countries have 2 party majority
Is it... bad leaders?
So... just Trump then?
Is it... structure of government?
Implemented intentionally to keep balance, inherently centrist...
I don't see anything wrong.
Maybe the worst is claims of voter fraud, but that's all fake made by GOP.

Idk but some experts say so,I think it's because it has lots of partys

Please don't argue this if you don't know.
I'll try to explain
The problem is exactly the opposite.
NO THIRD PARTY WINS MORE THAN 1% OF THE POPULAR VOTE

NO THIRD PARTY HAS WON A STATE IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
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Celestial Splendor Tianxia
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Postby Celestial Splendor Tianxia » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:34 pm

National Capitalist United States wrote:
Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:PRC committing genocide on Uyghur people? LOL ok. That is why they are building Mosques in Xinjiang? Naive fool.

How does the red koolaid taste like?

Xinjiang is open for any journalists to see my friend. Falun Gong-owned Epoch Times would have you believe otherwise of course. What Western Liberals do not know of this death cult is that it promotes a racist and evil ideology. How does it feel to drink koolaid of Chinese Scientology?
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