The Chinese Communist Party is right or wrong?

[Kubra]

https://swprs.org/der-propaganda-multiplikator/

Es ist einer der wichtigsten Aspekte unseres Mediensystems – und dennoch in der Öffentlichkeit nahezu unbekannt: Der größte Teil der internationalen Nachrichten in all unseren Medien stammt von nur drei globalen Nachrichtenagenturen aus New York, London und Paris.
It is one of the most important aspects of our media system, yet almost unknown to the public: the majority of international news in all our media comes from only three global news agencies from New York, London and Paris.

oh god, it was the french all along

[Islamic Holy Sites]

Only it has the opposite affect. I'm less likely to take a nation seriously if said nation feels the need to make its citizens feverishly defend its image in message boards and forums. Imagine a world power that feels threatened by reddit.

I mean considering what happened with GameStop I can think of one power that may be wary of Reddit, at least finanacially.

'On 12 August 2015 the whole of Reddit was blocked in Russia by Roskomnadzor because of a post made by a Reddit user on the site.'

Seems that Russia is taking this deadly threat seriously, at least. *sarcasm*

[Sherechia]

Chinese communist party...

You know il congratulate them for their huge infrastructure projects and actively developing the country but at the same time I despise them for well.. you know.

Would I overthrow the CCP if I can? No, because I don't want China to become Libya. Instead, a better approach would be to limit their influence, a lot of people like the CCP, let them worship the CCP but we should help places that don't want to be ruled by the CCP.

[Shanghai industrial complex]

Nice

[Miku the Based]

今天是你的牲日我的中共
清晨我抓住一群白鴿
為你銜來一枚白玫瑰
今日這日子極度難過
我們祝福你的生日我的中共
願你即將倒台永遠安寧
我們祝福你的生日我的中共
這是兒女們心中憤怒的歌

今天是你的生日我的中共
清晨我烹殺一群白鴿
為你帶回遠方逃人的思念
飛彈在茫茫海天飛過
我們祝福你的生日我的中共
新疆新月殘破兒女飽受折磨
我們祝福你的生日我的中共
這是兒女在遠方恨的訴說

今天是你的生日我的中國
清晨我放飛一群白鴿
為你銜來一棵血色的麥穗
民主在風風雨雨中來到

我們祝福你的生日我的中共
願你逆風起飛雨中一敗塗地
我們祝福你的生日我的中共
這是兒女們心中反動的歌

中国将在CCP下前进

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

A: This is a fucking English forum.
B: This thread has become slaver dynasty celebration central hasn't it?

[Caleonia]

A: This is a fucking English forum.
B: This thread has become slaver dynasty celebration central hasn't it?

Yeah I read this from page one and I don’t know what the hell is happening anymore.

[Sykar Socialist]

今天是你的牲日我的中共
清晨我抓住一群白鴿
為你銜來一枚白玫瑰
今日這日子極度難過
我們祝福你的生日我的中共
願你即將倒台永遠安寧
我們祝福你的生日我的中共
這是兒女們心中憤怒的歌

今天是你的生日我的中共
清晨我烹殺一群白鴿
為你帶回遠方逃人的思念
飛彈在茫茫海天飛過
我們祝福你的生日我的中共
新疆新月殘破兒女飽受折磨
我們祝福你的生日我的中共
這是兒女在遠方恨的訴說

今天是你的生日我的中國
清晨我放飛一群白鴿
為你銜來一棵血色的麥穗
民主在風風雨雨中來到

我們祝福你的生日我的中共
願你逆風起飛雨中一敗塗地
我們祝福你的生日我的中共
這是兒女們心中反動的歌

中国将在CCP下前进

No, it is backward, Brother Xi wants to be an emperor.

[The Yellow Emperor]

A: This is a fucking English forum.
B: This thread has become slaver dynasty celebration central hasn't it?

Ah yes... CPC = slavery dynasty Oh NSG... you never change when it comes to China threads. The CPC has done rather well, in developing the country, for economic purposes. Shame that they lost 10 years due to the CR. It'll be interesting to see how Hainan will develop... as a 'Free Trade Port Zone' ~ possibly the next Shenzhen/Xianggang.

[New Jacobland]

A: This is a fucking English forum.
B: This thread has become slaver dynasty celebration central hasn't it?

Ah yes... CPC = slavery dynasty Oh NSG... you never change when it comes to China threads. The CPC has done rather well, in developing the country, for economic purposes. Shame that they lost 10 years due to the CR. It'll be interesting to see how Hainan will develop... as a 'Free Trade Port Zone' ~ possibly the next Shenzhen/Xianggang.

Google Uighur re-education.

[New Visayan Islands]

Apologies, but given that two of my colleagues have pointed out that untranslated Chinese posting is not allowed, I am removing the untranslated posts made by Sykar Socialist after that announcement and issuing said nation a *** warning for spam. *** If you wish to continue posting in Chinese, we have a dedicated thread for this.

Thanks!
NVI

[Barlyy]

Wrong.

[The Yellow Emperor]

Ah yes... CPC = slavery dynasty Oh NSG... you never change when it comes to China threads. The CPC has done rather well, in developing the country, for economic purposes. Shame that they lost 10 years due to the CR. It'll be interesting to see how Hainan will develop... as a 'Free Trade Port Zone' ~ possibly the next Shenzhen/Xianggang.

Google Uighur re-education.

I've not yet seen a good talk on China's policies but a screech on how this particular nation violates your 'individual rights'. I'm always happy to talk about the policies, but not the continuous demand of 'googling re-education'. We will frankly never know what happens inside Xinjiang at all. After all, big brands like Nike and few others shouldn't get too political... especially considering the cotton industry in Xinjiang... is considered as the best domestic product. Boycotting the source of goods, is just putting a middle finger to the Uyghurs who need that source of income as harvesters.

[New Jacobland]

Google Uighur re-education.

I've not yet seen a good talk on China's policies but a screech on how this particular nation violates your 'individual rights'. I'm always happy to talk about the policies, but not the continuous demand of 'googling re-education'. We will frankly never know what happens inside Xinjiang at all. After all, big brands like Nike and few others shouldn't get too political... especially considering the cotton industry in Xinjiang... is considered as the best domestic product. Boycotting the source of goods, is just putting a middle finger to the Uyghurs who need that source of income as harvesters.

Emphasis mine.

What I have highlighted is the exact problem. We may never know what happens in Xinjiang. We have plenty of sources, but all these rumours and testimonials can be crushed if China lets foreign journalists into Xinjiang, and give them more or less free reign. Then, if they find nothing, the West can sit back and say they were wrong. If it is proven, then, well...

[The Yellow Emperor]

I've not yet seen a good talk on China's policies but a screech on how this particular nation violates your 'individual rights'. I'm always happy to talk about the policies, but not the continuous demand of 'googling re-education'. We will frankly never know what happens inside Xinjiang at all. After all, big brands like Nike and few others shouldn't get too political... especially considering the cotton industry in Xinjiang... is considered as the best domestic product. Boycotting the source of goods, is just putting a middle finger to the Uyghurs who need that source of income as harvesters.

Emphasis mine.

What I have highlighted is the exact problem. We may never know what happens in Xinjiang. We have plenty of sources, but all these rumours and testimonials can be crushed if China lets foreign journalists into Xinjiang, and give them more or less free reign. Then, if they find nothing, the West can sit back and say they were wrong. If it is proven, then, well...

Adding to that, 'numbers of those in camps' always change from the sources that many have sent. So I do question their legitimate source. Overall, Xinjiang is rather a pretty region for tourism. China's backbone to development I suppose.

[-Ocelot-]

A: This is a fucking English forum.
B: This thread has become slaver dynasty celebration central hasn't it?

Ah yes... CPC = slavery dynasty Oh NSG... you never change when it comes to China threads. The CPC has done rather well, in developing the country, for economic purposes. Shame that they lost 10 years due to the CR. It'll be interesting to see how Hainan will develop... as a 'Free Trade Port Zone' ~ possibly the next Shenzhen/Xianggang.

You just proved his point, Yellow Emperor.

[Picairn]

I've not yet seen a good talk on China's policies but a screech on how this particular nation violates your 'individual rights'. I'm always happy to talk about the policies, but not the continuous demand of 'googling re-education'. We will frankly never know what happens inside Xinjiang at all. After all, big brands like Nike and few others shouldn't get too political... especially considering the cotton industry in Xinjiang... is considered as the best domestic product. Boycotting the source of goods, is just putting a middle finger to the Uyghurs who need that source of income as harvesters.

Great, another genocide denier.

[China Tech]

I hate CCP, They behavior is an Orwellian.

[Tringapore]

I find it quite ridiculous for China to censor Winnie the Pooh, just because netizens compared him to President Xi Jinping!

[Free China]

My take on China's current military unification strategy... (WARNING: Long post)

This one is much less complex. Just invade Taiwan, remove their government, and force Taiwan to become a part of the PRC. This too is unrealistic.

First, China actually has to take the island. It is going to require bombing military targets and then launching an amphibious assault on Taiwan. But Taiwan sits in one of the most unfortunate places on Earth with regards to weather. It is constantly hit by typhoons and it is raining constantly. Furthermore, Taiwan is very mountainous, which will make it extremely difficult for any invading force to fight. Taiwan's strategy is to make invasion so difficult, time-consuming, and deadly that China won't consider it in the first place. And on top of all that, Japan and the US will most certainly be involved as it is in their interests to be involved to help their de facto independent ally repel an authoritarian invading force. With all of that, it is unlikely that the benefits would ever outweigh the consequences with regards to invading Taiwan, especially considering what effects it would have at home if China fails to conquer the island.

But for a moment consider that China does successfully bring the island under its control. What now? China will now have 23 million angry new residents who will fight back harder than one could ever imagine with the Hong Kong rioters, except this time the world would be on their side and wouldn't view them negatively like they do with the Hong Kong rioters.

China will have to deal with all of these angry people who will never forgive them for murdering their family members in the military or those who ended up as civilian casualties. China would have to deal with the fact that maintaining order and suppressing the population will cost an enormous amount of money per year. The PRC, which has never actually governed Taiwan for a moment, will now be left with a plethora of institutions that Taiwan had (schools, courts, housing, waste, restaurants, businesses, energy sectors, etc) and will have to figure out how to incorporate this into their government, which will be ridiculously expensive.

The region and the rest of the world for that matter will be alarmed and in complete disarray, as China would have just proven themselves as not being the peaceful and diplomatic country they said they were. Countries surrounding China would then start to worry that China could have expansionist or imperialist interests with their countries, and would start increasing military spending and arming to the teeth. The entire region would be destabilized for decades to come.

China would lose an untold amount of business partners and the world economy would turn against them no matter how big their economy is if they invade. China's allies would become less trustful of it. There is no amount of arguing that “Taiwan is a part of China” or “this wasn't an invasion, it was a domestic dispute” that can stop this from happening if China invades.

China would hurt itself immensely if they decide to do this regardless of whether or not they are successful in their endeavors. BUT as things are right now, unification is unrealistic and impossible. China is extremely dismissive of the Taiwanese people's concerns and will not listen to them. They will not negotiate with Taiwan because it would force them to make concessions. China just sees Taiwan as a piece of land it wants; it doesn't care about the people living there whatsoever. Meanwhile, Taiwan is also refusing to engage with China.

If China wants Taiwan to unify, all hope is not necessarily lost. So far, we know the following:

• Forced unification via invasion would be so damaging and destabilizing that it's not worth considering.
  
  
• China's attempts to convince the Taiwanese people to peacefully unify are currently not working.
  
  
• Even if China tells Taiwan that it will not use military force to forcefully unify (unless Taiwan declares independence), it is astronomically unlikely that Taiwan will ever declare independence.

Meaning, China and Taiwan have all the time in the world to figure this out. And to figure this out, it is going to require some outside-the-box thinking and negotiating.

The idea that independence, unification, and status quo are the only three possible resolutions is archaic thinking. There are so many other possibilities and agreements that the two sides could diplomatically come to, and such resolutions need to consider the legitimate concerns on both sides.

There. I've shared my vent on everyone's misunderstandings of the region. So expect the status quo to continue until China and Taiwan grow up and learn to be more diplomatic.

[Exalted Inquellian State]

I think a country in Latin America was ancom once,idk if I'm right tho

I mean... I wouldn't think so. All those "an___" are pretty much untested.

Well, they are tested, but the only one to last over a decade are the Zapatistas, which are still poor(though that's partially due to being in a horrid region) and from what I heard, have to smuggle products to survive.

[Pan-Asiatic States]

The Chinese Communist Party is correct nine out of ten times and is supported by some of the best people to exist, such as Jackie Chan and Terry Crews. Like them, I support the historic struggle of the Chinese people and the government of the People's Republic of China.

Unlike Britain which is ruled by a Queen or America that is ruled by a college, China is a true democratic state which is why they are based and redpilled.

I hope that more people will support this awesome and beautiful country! <3

[Kubra]

The Chinese Communist Party is correct nine out of ten times and is supported by some of the best people to exist, such as Jackie Chan and Terry Crews. Like them, I support the historic struggle of the Chinese people and the government of the People's Republic of China.

Unlike Britain which is ruled by a Queen or America that is ruled by a college, China is a true democratic state which is why they are based and redpilled.

I hope that more people will support this awesome and beautiful country! <3

america is ruled by a college? Neat, is it Amherst?

[Exalted Inquellian State]

The Chinese Communist Party is correct nine out of ten times and is supported by some of the best people to exist, such as Jackie Chan and Terry Crews. Like them, I support the historic struggle of the Chinese people and the government of the People's Republic of China.

Unlike Britain which is ruled by a Queen or America that is ruled by a college, China is a true democratic state which is why they are based and redpilled.

I hope that more people will support this awesome and beautiful country! <3

I'm not sure if you're ironic or not, but if you aren't, most of the time the popular vote winner becomes president anyway in America, and Britain is ruled by a Prime Minister with a figurehead queen.

[Unstoppable Empire of Doom]

The Chinese Communist Party is correct nine out of ten times and is supported by some of the best people to exist, such as Jackie Chan and Terry Crews. Like them, I support the historic struggle of the Chinese people and the government of the People's Republic of China.

Best people to exist are two random ass actors? Not saying they are shit people but "best people to exist" is just nutty.

Unlike Britain which is ruled by a Queen or America that is ruled by a college, China is a true democratic state which is why they are based and redpilled.

The UK and US are both ruled by types of democracy. The Queen is just a sort of figurehead and the "college" is a term for a group of people.... people who are elected. The PRC is a single party quasi democracy that tends to coalesce into a dictatorship. Not a real democracy.

I hope that more people will support this awesome and beautiful country! <3

People support the Chinese people. They do not support the PRC which has repeatedly waged imperialist wars and begun committing genocide.