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The Chinese Communist Party is right or wrong?

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I think that the CCP:

Is right about everything
29
4%
Is more often right than wrong
71
10%
Is more often wrong than right
359
52%
Is always in the wrong
230
33%
 
Total votes : 689

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Celestial Splendor Tianxia
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Founded: Feb 28, 2021
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Postby Celestial Splendor Tianxia » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:37 pm

New Jacobland wrote:
Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:PRC committing genocide on Uyghur people? LOL ok. That is why they are building Mosques in Xinjiang? Naive fool.


This is flaming.

Why are they building re-education camps in Xinjiang. Why are they forcefully brainwashing Uyghurs out of their religion?

Salafi jihadism is not compatible with Socialism With Chinese Characteristics. Islam is permitted in China, a secular and modern nation. There are millions of Muslims in China , Hui and Uyghur among them. Would you allow ISIS to open a Mosque in your neighborhood? Extremist ideology is dangerous.

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New Jacobland
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Postby New Jacobland » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:37 pm

Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:
National Capitalist United States wrote:How does the red koolaid taste like?

Xinjiang is open for any journalists to see my friend. Falun Gong-owned Epoch Times would have you believe otherwise of course. What Western Liberals do not know of this death cult is that it promotes a racist and evil ideology. How does it feel to drink koolaid of Chinese Scientology?
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Yes, Xinjiang is open for people to see. Guess what! The CCP wouldn't let them actually write about it publicly. They would just disappear and a month later reappear talking about how glorious and wonderful China is.
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Postby New Visayan Islands » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:38 pm

Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:PRC committing genocide on Uyghur people? LOL ok. That is why they are building Mosques in Xinjiang? Naive fool.

Good day!

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Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:PRC committing genocide on Uyghur people? LOL ok. That is why they are building Mosques in Xinjiang? Naive fool.

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New Jacobland
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Postby New Jacobland » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:38 pm

Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:
New Jacobland wrote:
This is flaming.

Why are they building re-education camps in Xinjiang. Why are they forcefully brainwashing Uyghurs out of their religion?

Salafi jihadism is not compatible with Socialism With Chinese Characteristics. Islam is permitted in China, a secular and modern nation. There are millions of Muslims in China , Hui and Uyghur among them. Would you allow ISIS to open a Mosque in your neighborhood? Extremist ideology is dangerous.



99.9% of Uyghurs are not extremist.
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Predsedatel
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Founded: Feb 28, 2021
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Postby Predsedatel » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:41 pm

New Jacobland wrote:
Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:Salafi jihadism is not compatible with Socialism With Chinese Characteristics. Islam is permitted in China, a secular and modern nation. There are millions of Muslims in China , Hui and Uyghur among them. Would you allow ISIS to open a Mosque in your neighborhood? Extremist ideology is dangerous.



99.9% of Uyghurs are not extremist.


Where is this statistic my friend? China reports a lot more.

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Railroad Crossing
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Founded: Apr 20, 2020
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Postby Railroad Crossing » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:41 pm

last week i saw about 10 cars of falun gong go down Brooklyn highway
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National Capitalist United States
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Founded: Dec 07, 2020
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Postby National Capitalist United States » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:41 pm

Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:
National Capitalist United States wrote:How does the red koolaid taste like?

Xinjiang is open for any journalists to see my friend. Falun Gong-owned Epoch Times would have you believe otherwise of course. What Western Liberals do not know of this death cult is that it promotes a racist and evil ideology. How does it feel to drink koolaid of Chinese Scientology?
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Hey, Tankie, why don't you go to China and say "Winnie the Pooh is a retard", just to see if you're right. Also make sure you're in front of the cops when you do it.
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Celestial Splendor Tianxia
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Postby Celestial Splendor Tianxia » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:43 pm

New Jacobland wrote:
Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:Xinjiang is open for any journalists to see my friend. Falun Gong-owned Epoch Times would have you believe otherwise of course. What Western Liberals do not know of this death cult is that it promotes a racist and evil ideology. How does it feel to drink koolaid of Chinese Scientology?
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Yes, Xinjiang is open for people to see. Guess what! The CCP wouldn't let them actually write about it publicly. They would just disappear and a month later reappear talking about how glorious and wonderful China is.

Falsehood. You cannot even show any instance of this. Western media apparatus smears China under pretext of human rights, listening to so called 「China experts」 hired by Falun Gong.

「Tursunay has told BBC that she was "kicked and beaten by guards until she blacked out" and was also "gang raped".

Wang pointed out the stories Tursunay recently shared with Western media are quite different from her previous interviews and are inconsistent and full of loopholes.

For instance, Wang said in her interview with BuzzFeed News in early 2020, Tursunay said she "wasn't beaten or abused," and she didn't make any direct claim that she had ever been raped.

She has further told CNN that she was forced to an implant with contraceptive IUDs. While according to the spokesperson, all Tursunay's relatives know that she is infertile, and the truth is she has never undergone contraception.

Wang criticized Western media outlets for accepting most of Tursunay's stories without further evidence and facts.」

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-02-23/C ... index.html

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Celestial Splendor Tianxia
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Postby Celestial Splendor Tianxia » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:46 pm

National Capitalist United States wrote:
Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:Xinjiang is open for any journalists to see my friend. Falun Gong-owned Epoch Times would have you believe otherwise of course. What Western Liberals do not know of this death cult is that it promotes a racist and evil ideology. How does it feel to drink koolaid of Chinese Scientology?
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Hey, Tankie, why don't you go to China and say "Winnie the Pooh is a retard", just to see if you're right.

Tankie? I have nothing to do with white left. I am rebuking those who naively and foolishly believe sensationalist yellow journalism lies peddled by the Epoch Times, BBC and SCMP. If one falsely claimed the United States was committing a genocide of black people , you would attempt to refute these claims ?

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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:46 pm

Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:Socialism With Chinese Capitalist Characteristics.

Fixed that doublethink for you.
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New Jacobland
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Postby New Jacobland » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:47 pm

Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:
New Jacobland wrote:Yes, Xinjiang is open for people to see. Guess what! The CCP wouldn't let them actually write about it publicly. They would just disappear and a month later reappear talking about how glorious and wonderful China is.

Falsehood. You cannot even show any instance of this. Western media apparatus smears China under pretext of human rights, listening to so called 「China experts」 hired by Falun Gong.

「Tursunay has told BBC that she was "kicked and beaten by guards until she blacked out" and was also "gang raped".

Wang pointed out the stories Tursunay recently shared with Western media are quite different from her previous interviews and are inconsistent and full of loopholes.

For instance, Wang said in her interview with BuzzFeed News in early 2020, Tursunay said she "wasn't beaten or abused," and she didn't make any direct claim that she had ever been raped.

She has further told CNN that she was forced to an implant with contraceptive IUDs. While according to the spokesperson, all Tursunay's relatives know that she is infertile, and the truth is she has never undergone contraception.

Wang criticized Western media outlets for accepting most of Tursunay's stories without further evidence and facts.」

https://news.cgtn.com/news/2021-02-23/C ... index.html

I've never heard of Tursunay.

Why did you link China condemning Canada, while talking about a completely unrelated topic?
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National Capitalist United States
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Postby National Capitalist United States » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:48 pm

Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:
National Capitalist United States wrote:Hey, Tankie, why don't you go to China and say "Winnie the Pooh is a retard", just to see if you're right.

Tankie? I have nothing to do with white left. I am rebuking those who naively and foolishly believe sensationalist yellow journalism lies peddled by the Epoch Times, BBC and SCMP. If one falsely claimed the United States was committing a genocide of black people , you would attempt to refute these claims ?

I would, but only if there's substancial proof that it's false.

Also you don't have white to be a tankie and to suck the CCP's dick
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Is the Chinese Communist Party right or wrong?

Postby Deacarsia » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:50 pm

The Chinese Communist Party is wrong.
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Tokora
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Postby Tokora » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:52 pm

The CCP betrayed the revolution when Mao made himself emperor in all but name. Deng is when they stopped even pretending to be communist.

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Celestial Splendor Tianxia
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Postby Celestial Splendor Tianxia » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:52 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:Socialism With Chinese Capitalist Characteristics.

Fixed that doublethink for you.

In China, the Chinese corporation serves China and the Chinese people. It is a natural condition. Capitalist? Scandinavian 「social democracy」 is reliant on the exploitation of the third world. Socialism With Chinese Characteristics flourishes with mutual benefit across the developing world and the new silk road. Is having corporations wrong? Maybe introspect first. In the west, your corporations do not even serve you. They serve us. Your movies cater to China and the sensibilities of the Chinese people.
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Was 《Top Gun》 not American 「patriotic」 movie? Yet now it is mindful and respectful of China's sovereign claim over the island of Taiwan and the South China Sea. Thank you very much! LOL

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Celestial Splendor Tianxia
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Postby Celestial Splendor Tianxia » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:53 pm

Tokora wrote:The CCP betrayed the revolution when Mao made himself emperor in all but name. Deng is when they stopped even pretending to be communist.

The Soviet Union betrayed the Revolution. Not China.

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National Capitalist United States
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Postby National Capitalist United States » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:55 pm

Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Fixed that doublethink for you.

In China, the Chinese corporation serves China and the Chinese people. It is a natural condition.


Oh yeah? You're sure about that?
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The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire
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Postby The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:56 pm

Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Fixed that doublethink for you.

In China, the Chinese corporation serves China and the Chinese people. It is a natural condition. Capitalist? Scandinavian 「social democracy」 is reliant on the exploitation of the third world. Socialism With Chinese Characteristics flourishes with mutual benefit across the developing world and the new silk road. Is having corporations wrong? Maybe introspect first. In the west, your corporations do not even serve you. They serve us. Your movies cater to China and the sensibilities of the Chinese people.
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Was 《Top Gun》 not American 「patriotic」 movie? Yet now it is mindful and respectful of China's sovereign claim over the island of Taiwan and the South China Sea. Thank you very much! LOL

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Postby Stellar Colonies » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:56 pm

National Capitalist United States wrote:
Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:In China, the Chinese corporation serves China and the Chinese people. It is a natural condition.


Oh yeah? You're sure about that?

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Postby Predsedatel » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:57 pm

National Capitalist United States wrote:
Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:In China, the Chinese corporation serves China and the Chinese people. It is a natural condition.


Oh yeah? You're sure about that?


it says in wikipedia that this violates Chinese law? I am not to trust wikipedia all the time. But.

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Postby My Political Fantasy » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:58 pm

The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire wrote:
Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:In China, the Chinese corporation serves China and the Chinese people. It is a natural condition. Capitalist? Scandinavian 「social democracy」 is reliant on the exploitation of the third world. Socialism With Chinese Characteristics flourishes with mutual benefit across the developing world and the new silk road. Is having corporations wrong? Maybe introspect first. In the west, your corporations do not even serve you. They serve us. Your movies cater to China and the sensibilities of the Chinese people.
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Was 《Top Gun》 not American 「patriotic」 movie? Yet now it is mindful and respectful of China's sovereign claim over the island of Taiwan and the South China Sea. Thank you very much! LOL

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this is op on alt. i'm betting it.


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Postby Atheris » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:58 pm

The CCP is a disgrace.
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Tokora
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Postby Tokora » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:59 pm

Celestial Splendor Tianxia wrote:
Tokora wrote:The CCP betrayed the revolution when Mao made himself emperor in all but name. Deng is when they stopped even pretending to be communist.

The Soviet Union betrayed the Revolution. Not China.

China did it next. The only successful revolutions were Yugoslavia, Cuba, and Vietnam, and each one was destroyed from pressure by neo-imperialist superpowers that loathed any nation that refused to play by their rules.

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Alentejozinho and Algarvezinho
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Postby Alentejozinho and Algarvezinho » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:03 pm

The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire wrote:
Alentejozinho and Algarvezinho wrote:This is not a flaming or trolling attempt, just a thought experiment. The American democratic and republican parties are often discussed here, so im bringing up the theme of the Chinese Communist Party that is larger and more powerful than both.

Many of you dislike the Chinese Communist Party, but do you think that everything they do is always wrong?

Because they do have results to show, namely how poverty has decreased immensely in China, and how they are one of the few political parties in the world with a strategic worldview (the belt and road initiative for example).

The social credit system sounds draconian, but how many of you drive by a broken neighbourhood and think "the government should really do something about this"...well, they are doing something about it.

I also admit that some of their internal security mesures seem...a bit excessive.

But I leave the question anyway, how right or wrong do you believe the CCP is?


OP wanted everyone to agree with his brainwashed view of China.
He's that one vote who says "always right"


Not really, just wanted to know your opinions.

I, of course, believe that the CCP is an immensely competent political party, and believe that we westerners should learn from them. But that is my opinion ;)

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Postby New Jacobland » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:05 pm

Alentejozinho and Algarvezinho wrote:
The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire wrote:
OP wanted everyone to agree with his brainwashed view of China.
He's that one vote who says "always right"


Not really, just wanted to know your opinions.

I, of course, believe that the CCP is an immensely competent political party, and believe that we westerners should learn from them. But that is my opinion ;)

Very sus how the second Celestial Tianxia got deleted you start talking again.
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