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Is there a God?

I believe in the existence of a God.
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50%
I do not believe in the existence of any God(s).
25
28%
I believe in the existence of multiple Gods.
5
6%
I don't know.
11
13%
Other (please comment)
3
3%
 
Total votes : 88

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Postby Sundiata » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:37 pm

I am a Roman Catholic.
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Postby Haja-Mishu » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:40 pm

i am god
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Feb 27, 2021 9:51 pm

Is there a god? Yes. Humans have created many.
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Postby Crysuko » Sat Feb 27, 2021 10:11 pm

Sundiata wrote:I am a Roman Catholic.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Feb 27, 2021 11:16 pm

As a polytheist I naturally believe in the existence of many Gods.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:07 am

I am a weak agnostic, I think that I do not know for now the existence of a god. I find the definitions of presence or absence wrong.
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Postby Atheris » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:54 pm

Haja-Mishu wrote:i am god

can confirm
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:53 pm

Zul-ar wrote:It seems several people want to discuss this topic, but do not provide sufficient OPs for their threads. So your friendly neighborhood Zul-ar is here to save the day.

Religion has existed for over five thousand years, the oldest of which being Hinduism. Today, about 84% of the world is religious, which is all but 1.2 billion people. Given this, it seems that the vast majority of humanity agrees that there exists some sort of deity/deities.

And yet, it seems dubious that there are over four thousand different ideas of what sort of deity this is. Not only that, but through scientific advancement we've found many things claimed in religious texts to be inconsistent with reality. Despite this, the majority continues to be convinced of the existence of the supernatural. Nonetheless as time goes on, the number of nonreligious grow, and societies seem to be separating themselves from religion.

NSG, what is your opinion on religion? Do you believe there exists a god/gods, or not?

I myself am personally not convinced of the existence of any deity, but if there is evidence for the existence of one, it will eventually surface.

I would ask you for sources on Hinduism being the oldest religion. Beyond that, having been a goddess in long-lost Sumer, I can say unequivocally, I don't believe.
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:08 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:As a polytheist I naturally believe in the existence of many Gods.


Would the different Indo-European pantheons all basically be the same people but with different names and cultural makeovers?
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:08 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Zul-ar wrote:It seems several people want to discuss this topic, but do not provide sufficient OPs for their threads. So your friendly neighborhood Zul-ar is here to save the day.

Religion has existed for over five thousand years, the oldest of which being Hinduism. Today, about 84% of the world is religious, which is all but 1.2 billion people. Given this, it seems that the vast majority of humanity agrees that there exists some sort of deity/deities.

And yet, it seems dubious that there are over four thousand different ideas of what sort of deity this is. Not only that, but through scientific advancement we've found many things claimed in religious texts to be inconsistent with reality. Despite this, the majority continues to be convinced of the existence of the supernatural. Nonetheless as time goes on, the number of nonreligious grow, and societies seem to be separating themselves from religion.

NSG, what is your opinion on religion? Do you believe there exists a god/gods, or not?

I myself am personally not convinced of the existence of any deity, but if there is evidence for the existence of one, it will eventually surface.

I would ask you for sources on Hinduism being the oldest religion. Beyond that, having been a goddess in long-lost Sumer, I can say unequivocally, I don't believe.

Do goddesses get pension plans?
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:08 pm

I left religion long ago. I dont like when someone controls everything I do especially when their justifications for doing so are bullshit.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:08 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Zul-ar wrote:It seems several people want to discuss this topic, but do not provide sufficient OPs for their threads. So your friendly neighborhood Zul-ar is here to save the day.

Religion has existed for over five thousand years, the oldest of which being Hinduism. Today, about 84% of the world is religious, which is all but 1.2 billion people. Given this, it seems that the vast majority of humanity agrees that there exists some sort of deity/deities.

And yet, it seems dubious that there are over four thousand different ideas of what sort of deity this is. Not only that, but through scientific advancement we've found many things claimed in religious texts to be inconsistent with reality. Despite this, the majority continues to be convinced of the existence of the supernatural. Nonetheless as time goes on, the number of nonreligious grow, and societies seem to be separating themselves from religion.

NSG, what is your opinion on religion? Do you believe there exists a god/gods, or not?

I myself am personally not convinced of the existence of any deity, but if there is evidence for the existence of one, it will eventually surface.

I would ask you for sources on Hinduism being the oldest religion. Beyond that, having been a goddess in long-lost Sumer, I can say unequivocally, I don't believe.

It might be the oldest extant religion. But yeah, certainly not the oldest religion generally.

I mean, if nothing else we know Hinduism is descended from an older PIE religion. So it can't possibly be the oldest one.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:14 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I would ask you for sources on Hinduism being the oldest religion. Beyond that, having been a goddess in long-lost Sumer, I can say unequivocally, I don't believe.

It might be the oldest extant religion. But yeah, certainly not the oldest religion generally.

I mean, if nothing else we know Hinduism is descended from an older PIE religion. So it can't possibly be the oldest one.

No, indeed. There are elements of that PIE pantheon, if we can use that word, all through the religions of ... Indoeuropeanland.

And it depends on what the definition of "religion" is.
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Postby Suriyanakhon » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:15 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:I would ask you for sources on Hinduism being the oldest religion. Beyond that, having been a goddess in long-lost Sumer, I can say unequivocally, I don't believe.

It might be the oldest extant religion. But yeah, certainly not the oldest religion generally.

I mean, if nothing else we know Hinduism is descended from an older PIE religion. So it can't possibly be the oldest one.


I would argue that it's actually younger than Jainism and Buddhism, because Hinduism developed out of a mix of Brahmanism and other philosophies which it would be flawed to consider identical with. Brahmanism was more or less a standard Indo-European belief system rather than what we know today.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:19 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:It might be the oldest extant religion. But yeah, certainly not the oldest religion generally.

I mean, if nothing else we know Hinduism is descended from an older PIE religion. So it can't possibly be the oldest one.


I would argue that it's actually younger than Jainism and Buddhism, because Hinduism developed out of a mix of Brahmanism and other philosophies which it would be flawed to consider identical with. Brahmanism was more or less a standard Indo-European belief system rather than what we know today.

*readies torches and pitchforks*
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Postby Heloin » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:29 pm

I go to a church on rare occasions and rather like my vicar, I call myself an Anglican mostly cause it's the church I go to. I grew up around catholic nuns and witch doctors. And beyond that, I don't know, maybe it's all a giant space monkey.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:32 pm

Heloin wrote:I go to a church on rare occasions and rather like my vicar, I call myself an Anglican mostly cause it's the church I go to. I grew up around catholic nuns and witch doctors. And beyond that, I don't know, maybe it's all a giant space monkey.

Giant space monkeys all the way down.
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Postby Heloin » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:36 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Heloin wrote:I go to a church on rare occasions and rather like my vicar, I call myself an Anglican mostly cause it's the church I go to. I grew up around catholic nuns and witch doctors. And beyond that, I don't know, maybe it's all a giant space monkey.

Giant space monkeys all the way down.

So long as they don't interrupt my lunchbreak I'm down with the space monkey continuum.

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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:42 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:It might be the oldest extant religion. But yeah, certainly not the oldest religion generally.

I mean, if nothing else we know Hinduism is descended from an older PIE religion. So it can't possibly be the oldest one.


I would argue that it's actually younger than Jainism and Buddhism, because Hinduism developed out of a mix of Brahmanism and other philosophies which it would be flawed to consider identical with. Brahmanism was more or less a standard Indo-European belief system rather than what we know today.

To the extent that this is true, I think it's kind of trivial.

Hinduism is a massive and complicated living tradition incorporating a huge swath of divergent beliefs. It's very hard to say anything about it at all. But one thing you probably can safely say is that it's constantly changing. Because it's a living tradition, and living traditions are always constantly changing. If you want to divide it up into different categories based on then-current religious trends you can (there's even a valid scholarly reason to do so), but declaring these categories different religions is kind of arbitrary unless you can point to a specific sharp break in the tradition. Otherwise it's like trying to figure out at exactly what point on a spectrum red becomes purple.
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Postby Salus Maior » Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:02 pm

Isn't this too broad a subject for a single thread?

I mean, they got rid of the RWDT and LWDT for the same kind of broadness.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:04 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Isn't this too broad a subject for a single thread?

I mean, they got rid of the RWDT and LWDT for the same kind of broadness.

So go report it.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:52 pm

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:As a polytheist I naturally believe in the existence of many Gods.


Would the different Indo-European pantheons all basically be the same people but with different names and cultural makeovers?


The answer varies from person to person but personally I lean towards that being the case, yes.
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Postby New Jacobland » Mon Mar 01, 2021 1:23 am

As a positive atheist I believe there are no gods.
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Postby Insaanistan » Mon Mar 01, 2021 5:59 am

There is no god but God, and Muhammad is the messenger of God!
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Mon Mar 01, 2021 6:09 am

I’m personally nonreligious.

I lean slightly anti-religious for spirituality in general and very anti-religious when it comes to monotheism in particular. The culture war is real and there can be no meaningful compromise between people who disagree on the basic nature of reality.
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