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Dresderstan wrote:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Stop giving away the plot for the next Doom Game.

Spoiler alert LGBT demon in the next Doom game.

Let's not kid ourselves: the Doom demons all do stuff with each other when Doomguy isn't there.

Insaanistan wrote:

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
To scare gullible people into doing what is accepted as "right" by a select group of people.

Hardy har.

Absolutely compelling counter argument, if I may say so myself.

My point still stands.

Paddy O Fernature wrote:

Insaanistan wrote:Hardy har.

Absolutely compelling counter argument, if I may say so myself.

My point still stands.

I’m really not trying to counter your claim. I frankly don’t give to fricks if you think hell exists or not.

Insaanistan wrote:

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Absolutely compelling counter argument, if I may say so myself.

My point still stands.

I’m really not trying to counter your claim. I frankly don’t give to fricks if you think hell exists or not.

If you are not here to debate, then if I may ask, why are you here then?

Punished UMN wrote:

Insaanistan wrote:...
So Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Timur aren’t bad people in God’s eyes?
If so, what’s the point of hell?

There isn't a "point" of Hell. It's not a place and it wasn't created.

Hell doesn't exist as a literal place one can go to. It's probably just a state of mind, if you ask me, though.

Auzkhia wrote:

Punished UMN wrote:There isn't a "point" of Hell. It's not a place and it wasn't created.

Hell doesn't exist as a literal place one can go to. It's probably just a state of mind, if you ask me, though.

How is this relevant to the topic?

San Lumen wrote:

Auzkhia wrote:Hell doesn't exist as a literal place one can go to. It's probably just a state of mind, if you ask me, though.

How is this relevant to the topic?

It all started with the theological ethics of homosexuality, probably. Something something gay people are gonna take down God and the baby jesus. Tangents like this happen all the time.

Paddy O Fernature wrote:

Insaanistan wrote:I’m really not trying to counter your claim. I frankly don’t give to fricks if you think hell exists or not.

If you are not here to debate, then if I may ask, why are you here then?

I am here to debate.
Just not to debate whether hell exists or not.

Czechostan wrote:I'm honestly surprised it's that low, but looking at the results across generations, it makes more sense.

People are growing up in a world where the gender binary and heteronormativity are eroding away, so this number will only increase.

that moment when male and female are thanos'd by 2024 :[

Auzkhia wrote:

Punished UMN wrote:There isn't a "point" of Hell. It's not a place and it wasn't created.

Hell doesn't exist as a literal place one can go to. It's probably just a state of mind, if you ask me, though.

Yeah, that's actually like the theological opinion of most Eastern Orthodoxy.

Punished UMN wrote:

Auzkhia wrote:Hell doesn't exist as a literal place one can go to. It's probably just a state of mind, if you ask me, though.

Yeah, that's actually like the theological opinion of most Eastern Orthodoxy.

congratulation nation who agree with orthodox
is brother now
come to home brother

Insaanistan wrote:

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
If you are not here to debate, then if I may ask, why are you here then?

I am here to debate.
Just not to debate whether hell exists or not.

Then perhaps next time you won't respond in such a manner to someone if you don't wish to engage with them.

Or just admit that you can't debate the topic because it's impossible to prove that something does actually exist and isn't make believe and only was created as a control measure.

Paddy O Fernature wrote:

Insaanistan wrote:I am here to debate.
Just not to debate whether hell exists or not.

Then perhaps next time you won't respond in such a manner to someone if you don't wish to engage with them.

Or just admit that you can't debate the topic because it's impossible to prove that something does actually exist and isn't make believe and only was created as a control measure.

This is the principle that makes last thursdayism possible

Paddy O Fernature wrote:

Insaanistan wrote:I am here to debate.
Just not to debate whether hell exists or not.

Then perhaps next time you won't respond in such a manner to someone if you don't wish to engage with them.

Or just admit that you can't debate the topic because it's impossible to prove that something does actually exist and isn't make believe and only was created as a control measure.

If K were to try and prove hell exists, the way I would do it is prove Islam is true, and doing so would take up a lot of time that TODAY I don’t have, and would derail the conversation.

Insaanistan wrote:

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Then perhaps next time you won't respond in such a manner to someone if you don't wish to engage with them.

Or just admit that you can't debate the topic because it's impossible to prove that something does actually exist and isn't make believe and only was created as a control measure.

If K were to try and prove hell exists, the way I would do it is prove Islam is true, and doing so would take up a lot of time that TODAY I don’t have, and would derail the conversation.

In case you change your mind, there's a separate thread for that.

Insaanistan wrote:

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
Then perhaps next time you won't respond in such a manner to someone if you don't wish to engage with them.

Or just admit that you can't debate the topic because it's impossible to prove that something does actually exist and isn't make believe and only was created as a control measure.

If K were to try and prove hell exists, the way I would do it is prove Islam is true, and doing so would take up a lot of time that TODAY I don’t have, and would derail the conversation.

Serious question...Is it really impossible for you to have a conversation on NS without bringing Islam into it and hijacking a thread?

The 2nd Byzantine-Hellenic Empire wrote:

Punished UMN wrote:Yeah, that's actually like the theological opinion of most Eastern Orthodoxy.

congratulation nation who agree with orthodox
is brother now
come to home brother

I'm already Orthodox.

Paddy O Fernature wrote:

Insaanistan wrote:
If K were to try and prove hell exists, the way I would do it is prove Islam is true, and doing so would take up a lot of time that TODAY I don’t have, and would derail the conversation.

Serious question...Is it really impossible for you to have a conversation on NS without bringing Islam into it and hijacking a thread?

Well, pretty much. Someone is always going to have a religion as the sole backing for their opinions, so any debate about those opinions will eventually become a debate about religion.

Paddy O Fernature wrote:

Insaanistan wrote:
If K were to try and prove hell exists, the way I would do it is prove Islam is true, and doing so would take up a lot of time that TODAY I don’t have, and would derail the conversation.

Serious question...Is it really impossible for you to have a conversation on NS without bringing Islam into it and hijacking a thread?

Y... you want me to debate an aspect of my religion... without including my religion in the discussion?

Sundiata wrote:

Palmyrion wrote:"YOuR bIbLe vErSe iS oUTTA coNtEXt"

You're just moving the goalposts, dear. This is one of the proper contexts which it can be cited. By virtue of 1 Cor 6:9-10 homosexuals by virtue of being people who have gay sex can't be virtuous. The Lord may be merciful, but also just - and He will mete out justice by hook and by crook, for it is His Will, His Creation. He can do anything He wants with his Creation, even massacre it wholesale, and it will be moral because it's His Divine Will.

There is a divine will and a way that we're supposed to conduct ourselves but if people don't know or are struggling to follow it, the Lord can forgive. God loves everyone and that includes homosexuals. Just because someone sins doesn't make them a bad person. God gets it. There's no such thing as a bad person in the eyes of the Lord.

Ah yes, except when you willfully engage in gay sex, you become sexually corrupted and thus are a sexually bad person, according to the Bible (1 Cor 6:9-10).

You might as well just order them killed (Lev 20:13), right?

Palmyrion wrote:

Sundiata wrote:There is a divine will and a way that we're supposed to conduct ourselves but if people don't know or are struggling to follow it, the Lord can forgive. God loves everyone and that includes homosexuals. Just because someone sins doesn't make them a bad person. God gets it. There's no such thing as a bad person in the eyes of the Lord.

Ah yes, except when you willfully engage in gay sex, you become sexually corrupted and thus are a sexually bad person, according to the Bible (1 Cor 6:9-10).

You might as well just order them killed (Lev 20:13), right?

Any sort of sex even outside of sacramental marriage does not make someone a bad person but it's definitely sinful. The section of Leviticus was a Civil Law of the ancient state of Israel, not a moral law of God. Without clear context it's not easy to distinguish between the two but please research that before you jump to the New Testament. That's over a thousand years of events that happened. God doesn't hate gay people. It's a good thing that more people are being honest about their feelings.

Dresderstan wrote:

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Stop giving away the plot for the next Doom Game.

Spoiler alert LGBT demon in the next Doom game.

This is literally what the Democrats want in real life!

Sundiata wrote:

Palmyrion wrote:Ah yes, except when you willfully engage in gay sex, you become sexually corrupted and thus are a sexually bad person, according to the Bible (1 Cor 6:9-10).

You might as well just order them killed (Lev 20:13), right?

Any sort of sex even outside of sacramental marriage does not make someone a bad person but it's definitely sinful. The section of Leviticus was a Civil Law of the ancient state of Israel, not a moral law of God. Without clear context it's not easy to distinguish between the two but please research that before you jump to the New Testament. That's over a thousand years of events that happened. God doesn't hate gay people. It's a good thing that more people are being honest about their feelings.

Your saying G-d doesnt hate gay people but disapproves of homosexual acts?

Palmyrion wrote:

Sundiata wrote:There is a divine will and a way that we're supposed to conduct ourselves but if people don't know or are struggling to follow it, the Lord can forgive. God loves everyone and that includes homosexuals. Just because someone sins doesn't make them a bad person. God gets it. There's no such thing as a bad person in the eyes of the Lord.

Ah yes, except when you willfully engage in gay sex, you become sexually corrupted and thus are a sexually bad person, according to the Bible (1 Cor 6:9-10).

You might as well just order them killed (Lev 20:13), right?

That refers to pedophilia, not homosexuality.

Atheris wrote:

Palmyrion wrote:Ah yes, except when you willfully engage in gay sex, you become sexually corrupted and thus are a sexually bad person, according to the Bible (1 Cor 6:9-10).

You might as well just order them killed (Lev 20:13), right?

That refers to pedophilia, not homosexuality.

No it doesn't.