Researcher: Falling sperm counts threaten human survival

[Countesia]

18 year old me after a 3 day camping trip i went on once would've disagreed with you

Inb4 sperm and semen are a different thing, I know.

[Postauthoritarian America]

finish the farce

Also the fact this is a link to brainyquote.com says more than I ever could about this literally misanthropic doomer rant

The Twain quote is from A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court, that's just where I found it fastest. In context:

Toward the shaven monk who trudged along with his cowl tilted back and the sweat washing down his fat jowls, the coal-burner was deeply reverent; to the gentleman he was abject; with the small farmer and the free mechanic he was cordial and gossipy; and when a slave passed by with a countenance respectfully lowered, this chap’s nose was in the air—he couldn’t even see him. Well, there are times when one would like to hang the whole human race and finish the farce.

This is something that should startle people and be talked about more often, but we all know why it isn't. It's not like this hasn't been known for a few years now, but in the female-oriented society that is modern day America, men and their health is treated as second class.

Oh so that would be why we still don't know how the COVID vaccines affect pregnant women, because we live in a female-oriented society and men are treated as second class. Thanks for clearing that one up.

18 year old me after a 3 day camping trip i went on once would've disagreed with you

Inb4 sperm and semen are a different thing, I know.

As would have 30 year old me after a long weekend with my cougar then-girlfriend. Topic for another thread, are the ideals of so-called "virtuous" behavior really just the jealousy of ageing men.

[Sundiata]

We're reaping what we sow.

[Countesia]

We're reaping what we sow.

Which is funny, because we're talking about a lack of seed here.

*ba dum tiss

[Sundiata]

We're reaping what we sow.

Which is funny, because we're talking about a lack of seed here.

*ba dum tiss

That was good.

[Chessmistress]

Am I the only one who feels like this a bit of an exaggeration? I could believe lowering sperm counts but for sperm counts to drop straight to zero in just 24 years? I'm a bit skeptical.

IMHO this article by the Guardian looks like an advert for the book by Shanna Swan.

Two quotes combined says all..

[Crysuko]

Pure alarmism.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

This is something that should startle people and be talked about more often, but we all know why it isn't. It's not like this hasn't been known for a few years now, but in the female-oriented society that is modern day America, men and their health is treated as second class.

Oh so that would be why we still don't know how the COVID vaccines affect pregnant women, because we live in a female-oriented society and men are treated as second class. Thanks for clearing that one up.

18 year old me after a 3 day camping trip i went on once would've disagreed with you

Inb4 sperm and semen are a different thing, I know.

As would have 30 year old me after a long weekend with my cougar then-girlfriend. Topic for another thread, are the ideals of so-called "virtuous" behavior really just the jealousy of ageing men.

No. The fitness of monogamy (whether serial or life-long) to child raising more likely accounts for that.

The male "mid-life crisis" is the attempt to make the most of one's remaining youth. If he's taken care of himself a 45 year old still has some vim and vigour but there is no doubt it's running out. The female menopause is up around the same age now (something to do with fetal nutrition; most of the potential eggs die very early) but if they were related, you'd expect male MLC to be earlier.

I'm older than that, and declining libido is nothing but welcome to me. It's one less way in which I'm "needy" and seriously, if it wasn't for loss of bone strength etc I would get it over with. Testicles belong in a jar of medical alcohol; they really are a menace.

I have become more cynical about sexuality of all sorts, but no more censorious of others. Their pants business is even less my business now.

[Saiwania]

The male "mid-life crisis" is the attempt to make the most of one's remaining youth. If he's taken care of himself a 45 year old still has some vim and vigour but there is no doubt it's running out. The female menopause is up around the same age now (something to do with fetal nutrition; most of the potential eggs die very early) but if they were related, you'd expect male MLC to be earlier.

I don't see it that way at all. Men don't appear to have a biological clock to the same extent that women do. Plenty of very old men can still manage to get a woman pregnant, its just that the resulting child might be more at risk for down syndrome if it survives. But usually the woman being young enough in comparison to the man counteracts that, if there is indeed a large age gap. That is why throughout history it was common and still isn't unheard of for a younger bride to be paired up with some rich but older man.

The only male equivalent to menopause I can see, is there being more erectile dysfunction or needing some help such as Viagra at minimum.

[Centrialand]

The world was never meant for humans, artifical intelligence would always prevail. Since now we know these we need to speed up their development. Humanity was going to go extinct soon anyways, but manufacturing artifical intelligences can carry on the legacy of the human race

[Comerciante]

Reject the Flesh Become Robot.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Eh, it probably wont be like that.

People will still have sperm, humanity will live.

[Resilient Acceleration]

In the end, though, I'm not worried due to the fact that we're also researching immortality, and from the looks of it, it's likely that we will achieve relative immortality by 2050 (relative immortality = we lengthen our age just long enough to receive better longevity technology, and the cycle goes on). We ain't going to go extinct.

Of course, this will first be available to the rich segment of the population only, which will especially significant after mass joblessness due to automation and sky-high inequality. Leading to the numeric collapse of the poorer population, but by then, governments probably won't be seeing it as that bad of a thing. Assuming this prediction is really valid (which is a bold claim I'm still sceptical about).

The world was never meant for humans, artifical intelligence would always prevail. Since now we know these we need to speed up their development. Humanity was going to go extinct soon anyways, but manufacturing artifical intelligences can carry on the legacy of the human race

The virgin submission vs. the CHAD SYMBIOSIS

[Salus Maior]

The world was never meant for humans, artifical intelligence would always prevail. Since now we know these we need to speed up their development. Humanity was going to go extinct soon anyways, but manufacturing artifical intelligences can carry on the legacy of the human race.

First of all, what.

Second of all, there's no indication of that. Humanity has gone through plenty of things just as rough as predicted.

AI is just as subject as humans are to scarcity. It's just a different set of resources, probably more complicated than what it takes for humans to function. So, yeah, I don't think AI is going to do much good. Better to put the effort towards sustainable power and living.

[Picairn]

The world was never meant for humans, artifical intelligence would always prevail. Since now we know these we need to speed up their development. Humanity was going to go extinct soon anyways, but manufacturing artifical intelligences can carry on the legacy of the human race

Protip: Supporting human enslavement and extinction won't save you from being killed and enslaved by your AI masters.

[Kowani]

The world was never meant for humans, artifical intelligence would always prevail. Since now we know these we need to speed up their development. Humanity was going to go extinct soon anyways, but manufacturing artifical intelligences can carry on the legacy of the human race

Protip: Supporting human enslavement and extinction won't save you from being killed and enslaved by your AI masters.

I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords

[Glorious Hong Kong]

The Singularity will occur in 2045. None of this will matter by then. We will abandon these frail meatbags and become one with A.I.

We will be as gods.

Amen.

[Postauthoritarian America]

The male "mid-life crisis" is the attempt to make the most of one's remaining youth. If he's taken care of himself a 45 year old still has some vim and vigour but there is no doubt it's running out. The female menopause is up around the same age now (something to do with fetal nutrition; most of the potential eggs die very early) but if they were related, you'd expect male MLC to be earlier.

I don't see it that way at all. Men don't appear to have a biological clock to the same extent that women do. Plenty of very old men can still manage to get a woman pregnant, its just that the resulting child might be more at risk for down syndrome if it survives. But usually the woman being young enough in comparison to the man counteracts that, if there is indeed a large age gap. That is why throughout history it was common and still isn't unheard of for a younger bride to be paired up with some rich but older man.

The only male equivalent to menopause I can see, is there being more erectile dysfunction or needing some help such as Viagra at minimum.

I'm a little surprised that NY Gov. Cuomo hasn't hit on "male menopause" as an excuse for his skeezy behavior. Look at yourself in a mirror, man. If you want 24 year old tail you gonna have to pay for it. Has there been a sudden shortage of whores in NYC that I haven't heard about or something?

[Ethel mermania]

I don't see it that way at all. Men don't appear to have a biological clock to the same extent that women do. Plenty of very old men can still manage to get a woman pregnant, its just that the resulting child might be more at risk for down syndrome if it survives. But usually the woman being young enough in comparison to the man counteracts that, if there is indeed a large age gap. That is why throughout history it was common and still isn't unheard of for a younger bride to be paired up with some rich but older man.

The only male equivalent to menopause I can see, is there being more erectile dysfunction or needing some help such as Viagra at minimum.

I'm a little surprised that NY Gov. Cuomo hasn't hit on "male menopause" as an excuse for his skeezy behavior. Look at yourself in a mirror, man. If you want 24 year old tail you gonna have to pay for it. Has there been a sudden shortage of whores in NYC that I haven't heard about or something?

No,no, no, the whores are Spitzers.

[Saiwania]

I'm a little surprised that NY Gov. Cuomo hasn't hit on "male menopause" as an excuse for his skeezy behavior. Look at yourself in a mirror, man. If you want 24 year old tail you gonna have to pay for it. Has there been a sudden shortage of whores in NYC that I haven't heard about or something?

If you have enough "game" or social skills, age doesn't matter very much (it can though if the gap is very large, because there is less in common at different life stages). Provided you have enough in common with the other person, you can still manage it. The person just got to be 18 or older at minimum, and is receptive to your advances for whatever reason. (Although you'll probably want to pursue an age range that is more socially accepted for you by default anyways.)

No, I don't need to pay because of my age. What is more of a factor is that its just not my element. I don't do romance and can't be bothered to learn, so I just won't care about it any. I'm open to new experiences or talks with people, but the main thing is that romance is never the main objective because if it is for you, you'll do something stupid or screw it up in coming across as scheming. You can't plan, it'll happen dynamically or not in terms of if someone enjoys hanging around you or not.

It works better in my view, if you're focused on the present and can genuinely accept or be happy with different outcomes happening. You won't be able to be disappointed if you are rejected in the long run. That just means move onto the next person, but maybe keep them as a friend if they're still of some benefit in terms of your time or interests.

[Senkaku]

Humanity was going to go extinct soon anyways,

Second of all, there's no indication of that. Humanity has gone through plenty of things just as rough as predicted.

There's going to be more plastic than fish in the oceans by weight before the time I turn 50, but you think there's "no indication" that we could go extinct soon?

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

keyword: obesity
sounds like an american problem

To take care of obesity do the Japanese gov and make it technically illegal to be overweight. I dont care if it infringes on your rights, you shouldn't be a lazy overweight cunt as you are damaging to employment and humanity

[Katganistan]

keyword: obesity
sounds like an american problem

To take care of obesity do the Japanese gov and make it technically illegal to be overweight. I dont care if it infringes on your rights, you shouldn't be a lazy overweight cunt as you are damaging to employment and humanity

*** Warned for flamebaiting ***

[The Reformed American Republic]

I think the Proud Boys are too pent up, lol.