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Postby West Balkan Union » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:17 am

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Postby Suriyanakhon » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:20 am

Insaanistan wrote:Wait, now I’m imagining Muslim anime...


Tbf that would probably result in a lot of yaoi if the Ottomans are anything to go by.
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Postby Valentine Z » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:23 am

Of an addendum and honorable mention is that Iran used to be a pretty wild and hip place wayyyyy back when. I mean, just look at these photos:

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And of course, Iranian music.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:24 am

Valentine Z wrote:Of an addendum and honorable mention is that Iran used to be a pretty wild and hip place wayyyyy back when. I mean, just look at these photos:

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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:51 am

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Wait, now I’m imagining Muslim anime...


Tbf that would probably result in a lot of yaoi if the Ottomans are anything to go by.

While it’s speculated a lot of Ottoman rulers were bi, a lot of them were just rumors started by the Greeks (for, ya know, fairly obvious reasons), and in most of the Islamic world, gay poems were meant to just be funny rather than taken as actual indicators of homosexuality.
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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:51 am

Zul-ar wrote:(Image)

The sad thing is is there are people who won’t have that reaction to this.
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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:53 am

Before the Revolution, if you saw someone wearing the hijab, it meant something. You gave them extra respect because it meant they were actively choosing to wear it to show their devotion. But now that everyone has to wear it, it’s meaningless. Imagine if everyone in America had to wear a cross of a Star of David.

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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:54 am

does this mean Islamic anime
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Postby The Marlborough » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:56 am

Valentine Z wrote:Of an addendum and honorable mention is that Iran used to be a pretty wild and hip place wayyyyy back when. I mean, just look at these photos:



And of course, Iranian music.

Tbf this was mainly in the major cities which were heavily Westernized not really in towns which is where most people lived.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:57 am

Insaanistan wrote:
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Tbf that would probably result in a lot of yaoi if the Ottomans are anything to go by.

While it’s speculated a lot of Ottoman rulers were bi, a lot of them were just rumors started by the Greeks (for, ya know, fairly obvious reasons), and in most of the Islamic world, gay poems were meant to just be funny rather than taken as actual indicators of homosexuality.
Ottoman sultans had bisexual relationships. The Islamic world is really being hypocritical as it always does on this subject.
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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:57 am

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Postby Jarvikan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:58 am

This decision is insane.We are going to have Disney princesses and animals wear Hijabs?

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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:59 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:While it’s speculated a lot of Ottoman rulers were bi, a lot of them were just rumors started by the Greeks (for, ya know, fairly obvious reasons), and in most of the Islamic world, gay poems were meant to just be funny rather than taken as actual indicators of homosexuality.
Ottoman sultans had bisexual relationships. The Islamic world is really being hypocritical as it always does on this subject.

Like I said, some of them did, others were just propaganda against them.
And please stop saying “The Islamic world is really being hypocritical.” Did Egypt decide to have this ruling, too? Or Tunisia? Or Nigeria? Or Kazakhstan? Or Afghanistan?
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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:59 am

Jarvikan wrote:This decision is insane.We are going to have Disney princesses and animals wear Hijabs?

I would assume it wouldn’t apply to animals.
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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:59 am

Jarvikan wrote:This decision is insane.We are going to have Disney princesses and animals wear Hijabs?

make them wear CBRN gear
CBRN gear seems close enough to hijabs to count, like look at it it basically does the same thing as a hijab
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Postby The Marlborough » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:00 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Suriyanakhon wrote:
Tbf that would probably result in a lot of yaoi if the Ottomans are anything to go by.

While it’s speculated a lot of Ottoman rulers were bi, a lot of them were just rumors started by the Greeks (for, ya know, fairly obvious reasons), and in most of the Islamic world, gay poems were meant to just be funny rather than taken as actual indicators of homosexuality.

So all the gay sex they were having must have been just for laughs eh. Not just the Ottomans either, the Safavids and Mughals were known for their romping with the boys.
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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:02 pm

The Marlborough wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:While it’s speculated a lot of Ottoman rulers were bi, a lot of them were just rumors started by the Greeks (for, ya know, fairly obvious reasons), and in most of the Islamic world, gay poems were meant to just be funny rather than taken as actual indicators of homosexuality.

So all the gay sex they were having must have been just for laughs eh. Not just the Ottomans either, the Safavids and Mughals were known for their romping with the boys.

Okay, maybe I’m not making myself clear:
Some of the sultans did in fact have homosexual sex. Meanwhile... others did not.
Additionally, I said gay poems. I’m pretty sure there’s even a Wikipedia that talks about that a bit.
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Postby Chan Island » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:03 pm

The wave of pictures of cats and dogs with photoshop or MS Paint hijabs has been amusing, but I largely am with the thread. It's a beyond stupid little fatwa.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:04 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Ottoman sultans had bisexual relationships. The Islamic world is really being hypocritical as it always does on this subject.

Like I said, some of them did, others were just propaganda against them.
And please stop saying “The Islamic world is really being hypocritical.” Did Egypt decide to have this ruling, too? Or Tunisia? Or Nigeria? Or Kazakhstan? Or Afghanistan?
Let's talk about porn movies shot in Paris by the royals of Saudi Arabia, then. Don't you think it's hypocritical ?
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Postby Auze » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:04 pm

Not sure whether to laugh or cry.

Insaanistan wrote:
Before the Revolution, if you saw someone wearing the hijab, it meant something. You gave them extra respect because it meant they were actively choosing to wear it to show their devotion. But now that everyone has to wear it, it’s meaningless. Imagine if everyone in America had to wear a cross of a Star of David.

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Exactly, religious devotion/compliance with religious rules is meaningless if you don't have the agency to choose otherwise.




Also, what if the female animals are depicted as intelligent, but not anthropomorphized in any other way (thinking of say, Bambi's Mother in the film Bambi)?
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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:06 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Like I said, some of them did, others were just propaganda against them.
And please stop saying “The Islamic world is really being hypocritical.” Did Egypt decide to have this ruling, too? Or Tunisia? Or Nigeria? Or Kazakhstan? Or Afghanistan?
Let's talk about porn movies shot in Paris by the royals of Saudi Arabia, then. Don't you think it's hypocritical ?

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Postby The Marlborough » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:06 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:So all the gay sex they were having must have been just for laughs eh. Not just the Ottomans either, the Safavids and Mughals were known for their romping with the boys.

Okay, maybe I’m not making myself clear:
Some of the sultans did in fact have homosexual sex. Meanwhile... others did not.
Additionally, I said gay poems. I’m pretty sure there’s even a Wikipedia that talks about that a bit.

Technically they were Caliphs and a lot of them did it, not just some. A number of non-Ottoman caliphs were in fact gay. I think it was Al-Hakam II who forced his wives to dress like men so that he could even stomach sleeping with them.

Oh and it wasn't just the leaders either, society as a whole was doing it. In Afghanistan up until recently it was common for Pashtun tribes to raid Hazara communities and take their sons as sex slaves.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:07 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Jarvikan wrote:This decision is insane.We are going to have Disney princesses and animals wear Hijabs?

I would assume it wouldn’t apply to animals.

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:11 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Let's talk about porn movies shot in Paris by the royals of Saudi Arabia, then. Don't you think it's hypocritical ?

Heck yeah!
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