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Postby Adamede » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:00 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Crabaiaia wrote:220 deaths vs 1.5 million deaths, yet calls the Armenian Genocide "so called". Typical Azeri nationalist
Are you saying that 613 souls are not important to you, it's a shame :(

I mean from all your comments people only seem to matter to you if they’re Turkic.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:04 am

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Then do you accept the reality of the Armenian Genocide and the responsibility of the Turkish nation for it?

watch as he wiggles out of this one.


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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:07 am

Adamede wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Are you saying that 613 souls are not important to you, it's a shame :(

I mean from all your comments people only seem to matter to you if they’re Turkic.
This is an absolutely terrible thought. Man is important because he is human. I hope that the mistakes made in 1992 are not made.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:08 am

Heloin wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Turkey admits they did something, but they say it was tens of thousands and not millions, and deny it was a genocide. Erdogan stopped just short of admitting it was a genocide.

Turkey doesn't admit to anything. It considers the genocide little more then conflict related to World War I in which Turks were victims to Armenian aggression just as much and even more so then the Armenians.

This ^^. It seems to me that Insaanistan wants to defend Turkey. After looking into it, yes, they didn't admit to anything.

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Postby Adamede » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:09 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Adamede wrote:I mean from all your comments people only seem to matter to you if they’re Turkic.
This is an absolutely terrible thought. Man is important because he is human. I hope that the mistakes made in 1992 are not made.

Something tells me you’re only sincere about that when it suits you.
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Postby Adamede » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:12 am

Insaanistan wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Implying that the OP is doing this in good faith. I'm am American nationalist, but at least I admit that we did engage in genocide against the Natives. Why can't Turkey admit they exterminated the Armenians?

Turkey admits they did something, but they say it was tens of thousands and not millions, and deny it was a genocide. Erdogan stopped just short of admitting it was a genocide.

That’s downplaying what they did.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:12 am

Adamede wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:This is an absolutely terrible thought. Man is important because he is human. I hope that the mistakes made in 1992 are not made.

Something tells me you’re only sincere about that when it suits you.

Indeed, I recall him going after the U.S. in a manner in which if it was someone going after Turkey, OP here would be in Moderation reporting.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:18 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:watch as he wiggles out of this one.


He’s not going to respond.


The thread in general is kind of sus. It’s one thing to post a “have your heard of this” and another referencing the genocide......
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:31 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
He’s not going to respond.


The thread in general is kind of sus. It’s one thing to post a “have your heard of this” and another referencing the genocide......

It is suspect. It's like a Nazi trying to dismiss the Holocaust by referencing some less than stellar things that the Allies did. Sure the Armenian Genocide wasn't as bad as the Holocaust, but the same principle applies.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:32 am

0 Turks were killed in this genocide.

Quite a few Azeri though :(
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Postby Taijou » Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:42 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:This thread is the debate and reminder of the Armenian government's genocide committed against civilian Turks in Hocalı in 1992. What would the Caucasian geography be like if it were not for the brutal invasion of Armenia in the Dağlık Karabağ region. You can discuss topics like this in the title.


29 years ago, a crime was committed against humanity today, we must not remain silent, we must be one heart against brutality and racism, regardless of religion, language or race, wherever we are in the world.

What would the Caucasian geography be like if it were not for the brutal genocide of the Ottomans in the Armenian region

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Postby SD_Film Artists » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:15 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:All the people in the world are important, it makes my stomach muddy that someone is killed systematically just because of his ethnicity. I don't understand racists, I think this is a disease.


Then do you accept the reality of the Armenian Genocide and the responsibility of the Turkish nation for it?


I'm also curious about this. It'll be interesting to hear from the OP.
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Postby Farnhamia » Fri Feb 26, 2021 12:39 pm

The Slayers Republic wrote:We can all see through your bullshit, Hakinda. Your only doing this to satisfy the ultranationalist in you.

220-600 deaths (which is more if a war crime than genocide, keep in mind.) vs 1.5 million deaths in a actual, by-the-books genocide that your government keeps denying that it even fucking happened. It's nice seeing you use the deaths of your own brethren to you're own goddamn benefit.


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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:25 pm

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
The thread in general is kind of sus. It’s one thing to post a “have your heard of this” and another referencing the genocide......

It is suspect. It's like a Nazi trying to dismiss the Holocaust by referencing some less than stellar things that the Allies did. Sure the Armenian Genocide wasn't as bad as the Holocaust, but the same principle applies.


I feel like trying to quantify ‘how bad’ one genocide is to another isn’t very constructive. In both cases we’re talking about millions of brutal deaths of innocent people here.
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Salus Maior wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:It is suspect. It's like a Nazi trying to dismiss the Holocaust by referencing some less than stellar things that the Allies did. Sure the Armenian Genocide wasn't as bad as the Holocaust, but the same principle applies.


I feel like trying to quantify ‘how bad’ one genocide is to another isn’t very constructive. In both cases we’re talking about millions of brutal deaths of innocent people here.


Yeah genocide is genocide. Let's not downplay the severity of what happened.
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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:29 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:watch as he wiggles out of this one.


He’s not going to respond.

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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:31 pm

Hot take here:

Without the Armenian Genocide there would have not been a Khojaly massacre.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:31 pm

Polish Prussian Commonwealth wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
He’s not going to respond.

a.


Don't bump posts.

If he ignores it, he ignores it. It all serves the same argumentative purpose.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Fri Feb 26, 2021 2:18 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Hot take here:

Without the Armenian Genocide there would have not been a Khojaly massacre.


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Salus Maior wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:It is suspect. It's like a Nazi trying to dismiss the Holocaust by referencing some less than stellar things that the Allies did. Sure the Armenian Genocide wasn't as bad as the Holocaust, but the same principle applies.


I feel like trying to quantify ‘how bad’ one genocide is to another isn’t very constructive. In both cases we’re talking about millions of brutal deaths of innocent people here.

Noted. I thought it was clear that I considered both terrible though, and inexcusable.

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Feb 26, 2021 3:05 pm

Please do not post this racist, sexist homophobic content. I think some people are posting this disgusting spammy content specifically to distribute the hocali genocide issue.
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Please do not post this racist, sexist homophobic content. I think some people are posting this disgusting spammy content specifically to distribute the hocali genocide issue.


You are wrong.

It was posted across half of NSG. It wasn't specifically targeted here.
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The Blaatschapen wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Please do not post this racist, sexist homophobic content. I think some people are posting this disgusting spammy content specifically to distribute the hocali genocide issue.


You are wrong.

It was posted across half of NSG. It wasn't specifically targeted here.

Plus it's probably a DOS who's whole intention is to disrupt this site. They were probably responsible for the forums going down for me a few minutes ago as well.

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