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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:42 am

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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
I wanted a clear definition of genocide regardless of religion, language or race. Because some people reject the genocide you are telling just because they are Turkish and Muslim. Systematically 613 people were killed in the Hocalı genocide.


This isn't because of the ethnicity of the victims (they were Azeri, btw) or their religion, you don't get to pull the race card here. You are quite clearly trying to divert attention away from the Armenian Genocide and using these victims as a political prop to further your Turkish supremacism. All of your arguments and behaviors are the same thing the Nazis used to justify seizing ethnically German lands, and used by Neo-Nazis today to downplay the Holocaust. Textbook genocide denial.


Not surprised. Pan Turkism is a form of fascism.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:42 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Adab wrote:I only recently became aware of the Khojaly massacre while reading about the latest conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh.

I agree that more people should know about it. The details were horrifying.

I think it's a good thing that this massacre has been brought to the attention of the NationStates forum.

I only wish that OP will clearly and explicitly demonstrate that they are doing it in good faith and with good intentions, rather than as an exercise in whataboutism in relation to the Armenian Genocide and an attempt to distract from the Armenian Genocide Memorial Thread.
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Which is why you call the Armenian genocide perpetrated by the Turkish nation a "so-called genocide".

Nobody's buying your bullshit, Hakinda. You have clearly demonstrated your bias and lack of goodwill towards the supposed enemies of the Turks.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:45 am

This thread appeared mere days after the Armenian Genocide memorial thread. That's mad sus fr.
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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:47 am

Come on, HHDI. You can’t call THIS a genocide and ignore the one against the Armenians.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:47 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:This thread appeared mere days after the Armenian Genocide memorial thread. That's mad sus fr.


It's pretty blatantly obvious what the agenda is, by his posts alone.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:50 am

So this is the ALL LIVES MATTER of genocides?
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:53 am

Vassenor wrote:So this is the ALL LIVES MATTER of genocides?


Yep.

But seriously though, Hakinda's obvious agenda aside, what happened in Khojaly was genocidal.
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Postby Adab » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:54 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Friends, please do not go beyond the subject, you can send all your off-topic private messages to me privately.


With all due respect, you are clearly aware of the obvious undercurrent issues behind your posting about this.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:54 am

Vassenor wrote:So this is the ALL LIVES MATTER of genocides?


"Why are you all mad that 1.5 million Armenians died when 220 Turks (Azeris actually) died this one time?"
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:55 am

Vassenor wrote:So this is the ALL LIVES MATTER of genocides?
All the people in the world are important, it makes my stomach muddy that someone is killed systematically just because of his ethnicity. I don't understand racists, I think this is a disease.

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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:56 am

Vassenor wrote:So this is the ALL LIVES MATTER of genocides?

Pretty much, yeah.
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So this is the ALL LIVES MATTER of genocides?
All the people in the world are important, it makes my stomach muddy that someone is killed systematically just because of his ethnicity. I don't understand racists, I think this is a disease.



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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:58 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So this is the ALL LIVES MATTER of genocides?
All the people in the world are important, it makes my stomach muddy that someone is killed systematically just because of his ethnicity. I don't understand racists, I think this is a disease.


Hehe. I’ve seen that video.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:00 am

Armenians butcher hundreds of Azeris in cold bold and it's a tragedy.

Millions of Armenians, Assyrians, and Greeks marched to their death by Turks and Kurds and it apparently didn't even happen.

Pan-Turkic ultranationalists truly mesmerize me sometimes.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:00 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So this is the ALL LIVES MATTER of genocides?
All the people in the world are important, it makes my stomach muddy that someone is killed systematically just because of his ethnicity. I don't understand racists, I think this is a disease.


Then do you accept the reality of the Armenian Genocide and the responsibility of the Turkish nation for it?
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:01 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So this is the ALL LIVES MATTER of genocides?


Yep.

But seriously though, Hakinda's obvious agenda aside, what happened in Khojaly was genocidal.


Which is of course bad.

But so is using it to justify pan-Turkic ultranationalism.
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Postby Polish Prussian Commonwealth » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:04 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:All the people in the world are important, it makes my stomach muddy that someone is killed systematically just because of his ethnicity. I don't understand racists, I think this is a disease.


Then do you accept the reality of the Armenian Genocide and the responsibility of the Turkish nation for it?

watch as he wiggles out of this one.
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Can anyone give me the link for the Armenian Genocide thread?Sounds interesting

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:19 am

Fenwick Foundation wrote:It's disgusting that NSG is ignoring this massacre out of disagreement with OP's political beliefs.

Implying that the OP is doing this in good faith. I'm am American nationalist, but at least I admit that we did engage in genocide against the Natives. Why can't Turkey admit they exterminated the Armenians?

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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:29 am

The Reformed American Republic wrote:
Fenwick Foundation wrote:It's disgusting that NSG is ignoring this massacre out of disagreement with OP's political beliefs.

Implying that the OP is doing this in good faith. I'm am American nationalist, but at least I admit that we did engage in genocide against the Natives. Why can't Turkey admit they exterminated the Armenians?

Turkey admits they did something, but they say it was tens of thousands and not millions, and deny it was a genocide. Erdogan stopped just short of admitting it was a genocide.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:34 am

Insaanistan wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Implying that the OP is doing this in good faith. I'm am American nationalist, but at least I admit that we did engage in genocide against the Natives. Why can't Turkey admit they exterminated the Armenians?

Turkey admits they did something, but they say it was tens of thousands and not millions, and deny it was a genocide. Erdogan stopped just short of admitting it was a genocide.

Still counts as denialism. If I disputed the amount of people who perished in the Holocaust, one would not hesitate to call me a Denier. Same should apply to Turkey. And since many Turks view such admittance as an insult to Turkishness, and many still claim it was justified and legal, I don't give them any credit for their half-admittance.
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Postby Heloin » Fri Feb 26, 2021 10:40 am

Insaanistan wrote:
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Implying that the OP is doing this in good faith. I'm am American nationalist, but at least I admit that we did engage in genocide against the Natives. Why can't Turkey admit they exterminated the Armenians?

Turkey admits they did something, but they say it was tens of thousands and not millions, and deny it was a genocide. Erdogan stopped just short of admitting it was a genocide.

Turkey doesn't admit to anything. It considers the genocide little more then conflict related to World War I in which Turks were victims to Armenian aggression just as much and even more so then the Armenians.
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Can anyone give me the link?

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