Should Hunting for Sport be Banned?

[Ethel mermania]

I enjoy it, I don't think that hunting for sport should be banned but there should be bans on endangered species.

why shouldn't it be banned?

Hunters tend to be environmentalists. And make excellent stewards of the environment

[Sundiata]

I enjoy it, I don't think that hunting for sport should be banned but there should be bans on endangered species.

why shouldn't it be banned?

Because at the heart of it, they're not human beings.

[Cameroi]

the problem may be complex but the solution is natural and simple: you kill it you eat it. does it taste bad, is it actually poisonous to you? too bad, you killed it.

do no other species ever kill for "sport"? its tempting to so no, none ever. but is it any excuse for us to do so, even if it were to sometimes happen,
and i do believe if it does, it is so rare as to still not make a logical excuse for doing so.

absolutely there is no logical excuse sufficient to permit killing shearly for the sake of doing so.

sport? only if they can hunt back. something about a right to arm bears. literally, not as a joke.

i see no way in which it is not utter and absolute nonsense for "sport" hunting to be allowed exist at all.

and yes there is such a thing as a natural and intrinsic morality. its measure is all about the kind of world it creates for all of us to have to live in.
you won't find it in any book of belief, but you will find it in actual cause and effect, in real consequences of behaviors and actions.

[Grinning Dragon]

the problem may be complex but the solution is natural and simple: you kill it you eat it. does it taste bad, is it actually poisonous to you? too bad, you killed it.

do no other species ever kill for "sport"? its tempting to so no, none ever. but is it any excuse for us to do so, even if it were to sometimes happen,
and i do believe if it does, it is so rare as to still not make a logical excuse for doing so.

absolutely there is no logical excuse sufficient to permit killing shearly for the sake of doing so.

sport? only if they can hunt back. something about a right to arm bears. literally, not as a joke.

i see no way in which it is not utter and absolute nonsense for "sport" hunting to be allowed exist at all.

and yes there is such a thing as a natural and intrinsic morality. its measure is all about the kind of world it creates for all of us to have to live in.
you won't find it in any book of belief, but you will find it in actual cause and effect, in real consequences of behaviors and actions.

In the end what does it matter? A tag/license was sold, a person shot and killed an animal. The end result is the same, an animal was taken whether it was for sustenance or a trophy. What that hunter does with the carcass is on them and to do with as they please since they bought a tag/license.

[Adamede]

I enjoy it, I don't think that hunting for sport should be banned but there should be bans on endangered species.

why shouldn't it be banned?

Why should it be banned?

[Paddy O Fernature]

why shouldn't it be banned?

Why should it be banned?

Feels before reals, or some other equally stupid reason.

[Bear Stearns]

why shouldn't it be banned?

Hunters tend to be environmentalists. And make excellent stewards of the environment

They do a better job at preserving nature than most environmental groups.

[Tundra Terra]

Agreed. Hunters and rangers have the most stake in the matter and tend to be aware of the situation versus a "VOTE ON THIS NOW!!" tabloid headline whose closest relation to nature is the compressed air of their bathroom outlet. hairdryers...gotta have priorities.

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

Hunters tend to be environmentalists. And make excellent stewards of the environment

They do a better job at preserving nature than most environmental groups.

So true!

[Nantoraka]

Absolutely not. Hunting for sport is a crucial method of population control, especially in areas where native predators aren't populous enough to check growing populations of cervidae.

Ignoring the benefits for scavengers as well, and the economic benefits of trophy hunting for local economies, of course.

[Sundiata]

Absolutely not. Hunting for sport is a crucial method of population control, especially in areas where native predators aren't populous enough to check growing populations of cervidae.

It's also a lot of fun.

[Nantoraka]

Absolutely not. Hunting for sport is a crucial method of population control, especially in areas where native predators aren't populous enough to check growing populations of cervidae.

It's also a lot of fun.

It is a lot of fun lol

On the other hand it's also integral to respect the animal, not massacre it

[Albrenia]

Depends, really. Hunting endangered species, using unduly cruel methods to kill the creature and wasteful trophy hunting I can get behind being banned.

People hunting in moderation and using the proceeds of the hunt I'd be against banning though.

[Lanoraie II]

They do a better job at preserving nature than most environmental groups.

So true!

Most legitimate, well-educated environmental groups not only support hunting but do it regularly themselves.

[UniversalCommons]

the problem may be complex but the solution is natural and simple: you kill it you eat it. does it taste bad, is it actually poisonous to you? too bad, you killed it.

do no other species ever kill for "sport"? its tempting to so no, none ever. but is it any excuse for us to do so, even if it were to sometimes happen,
and i do believe if it does, it is so rare as to still not make a logical excuse for doing so.

absolutely there is no logical excuse sufficient to permit killing shearly for the sake of doing so.

sport? only if they can hunt back. something about a right to arm bears. literally, not as a joke.

i see no way in which it is not utter and absolute nonsense for "sport" hunting to be allowed exist at all.

and yes there is such a thing as a natural and intrinsic morality. its measure is all about the kind of world it creates for all of us to have to live in.
you won't find it in any book of belief, but you will find it in actual cause and effect, in real consequences of behaviors and actions.

In the end what does it matter? A tag/license was sold, a person shot and killed an animal. The end result is the same, an animal was taken whether it was for sustenance or a trophy. What that hunter does with the carcass is on them and to do with as they please since they bought a tag/license.

The problem of being excessively civilized. The logic of turning everything into parking lots and farms because they are productive. In a world without hunting there is little wild land. To be civilized in this sense is to be commoditized. The logic which says there will be no animals because they will all be remade at a higher level as human beings. In this logic there will be no forests and every single wild thing will have died. It reveals the statistical framework which shows farms and cities destroy and kill far more animals than hunting. Animal agriculture, breeding cows and livestock which is quite civilized is the number one cause of habitat destruction for wild animals. Industrial agriculture is not much better.
https://www.greenamerica.org/blog/speci ... s-and-bees

Hunting in a way is far more humane than turning land into goat pasture. You take what you need based on the amount of animals that need to be taken. When lands get turned into pasture, no wild animal can live there. When you build farms the same thing is true.

[Krasny-Volny]

https://www.kare11.com/article/sports/outdoors/wisconsin-wolf-hunt-ends-early-hunters-trappers-exceed-kill-target/89-6f8059e4-ae02-47b3-97cb-1516e8c51a58

https://www.startribune.com/hunters-and ... 600026878/

The Wisconsin Wolf hunt ended after only two days due to hunters exceeding the kill target. The Department of Natural Resources closed the season after hunters and trappers had killed 178 wolves, which was 59 more than the state's target of 119. Hunters and trappers exceeded their target in all six of the state's management zones.

These animals were killed not for food or protecting people but for sheer ruthless fun and its utterly despicable.

Hunting for sport is morally and ethically wrong and there is no reason for it. Wolf cubs will now be left without parents and not be able to survive. Packs will be destroyed and whole ecosystems possibly disrupted. Hunting for sport should be outlawed as their is no justification for it. Getting a thrill out of killing a wild animal is disgusting.

Your Thoughts NSG?

Look, I work in conservation for a career. I’m the definition of a green collar worker. I’m also a hunter who hunts mostly for sport, and secondly for food.

Most coyote and wild hogs are hunted for sport. They do incredible damage to the ecosystems they inhabit, due in no small part to being invasive. I take great pleasure in killing them, because it’s actually better for the environment that their numbers are thinned. Ditto for species which are overpopulating, invasive or not.

[Nantoraka]

https://www.kare11.com/article/sports/outdoors/wisconsin-wolf-hunt-ends-early-hunters-trappers-exceed-kill-target/89-6f8059e4-ae02-47b3-97cb-1516e8c51a58

https://www.startribune.com/hunters-and ... 600026878/

The Wisconsin Wolf hunt ended after only two days due to hunters exceeding the kill target. The Department of Natural Resources closed the season after hunters and trappers had killed 178 wolves, which was 59 more than the state's target of 119. Hunters and trappers exceeded their target in all six of the state's management zones.

These animals were killed not for food or protecting people but for sheer ruthless fun and its utterly despicable.

Hunting for sport is morally and ethically wrong and there is no reason for it. Wolf cubs will now be left without parents and not be able to survive. Packs will be destroyed and whole ecosystems possibly disrupted. Hunting for sport should be outlawed as their is no justification for it. Getting a thrill out of killing a wild animal is disgusting.

Your Thoughts NSG?

Look, I work in conservation for a career. I’m the definition of a green collar worker. I’m also a hunter who hunts mostly for sport, and secondly for food.

Most coyote and wild hogs are hunted for sport. They do incredible damage to the ecosystems they inhabit, due in no small part to being invasive. I take great pleasure in killing them, because it’s actually better for the environment that their numbers are thinned. Ditto for species which are overpopulating, invasive or not.

Wild hogs are especially bad. They reproduce like mad and they shrug off damage that would be fatal trauma in any other animal.

[San Lumen]

https://www.wpr.org/consequences-winter ... Y-m6hJWnHE

Even experts say the wolf hunt in Wisconsin has serious consequences.

[Salus Maior]

https://www.wpr.org/consequences-winter-wolf-hunt?fbclid=IwAR3zn_ynEeA900NG_67eGItorJwZYmVWaNT_D3GfrN5b1UWGqY-m6hJWnHE

Even experts say the wolf hunt in Wisconsin has serious consequences.

Yeah, I don't think anyone objects to that hunt being botched.

[The Black Forrest]

Look, I work in conservation for a career. I’m the definition of a green collar worker. I’m also a hunter who hunts mostly for sport, and secondly for food.

Most coyote and wild hogs are hunted for sport. They do incredible damage to the ecosystems they inhabit, due in no small part to being invasive. I take great pleasure in killing them, because it’s actually better for the environment that their numbers are thinned. Ditto for species which are overpopulating, invasive or not.

Wild hogs are especially bad. They reproduce like mad and they shrug off damage that would be fatal trauma in any other animal.

Javelinas are worse. They swarm attack. a friend hunts pig and went on a hunt for Javelina. He shot one long distance and was surprised to see 20+ running around looking for who did it. He said if he was close they probably would have killed him.

[The Black Forrest]

https://www.wpr.org/consequences-winter-wolf-hunt?fbclid=IwAR3zn_ynEeA900NG_67eGItorJwZYmVWaNT_D3GfrN5b1UWGqY-m6hJWnHE

Even experts say the wolf hunt in Wisconsin has serious consequences.

Yeah, I don't think anyone objects to that hunt being botched.

But they keep saying they are environmentalists.

[Socialist States of Ludistan]

Many nations in Africa rely on it, and without it their people would be even poorer, not to mention that in some places much of the money that’s made from that is used to support endangered species. So I don’t think it should be banned, I personally just don’t approve of it.

[Socialist States of Ludistan]

Many nations in Africa rely on it, and without it their people would be even poorer, not to mention that in some places much of the money that’s made from that is used to support endangered species. So I don’t think it should be banned, I personally just don’t approve of it.

Not to mention, that if you ban hunting for sport, you would in a way also have to ban fishing for sport, and that’s extremely stupid.

[Violent Mike]

https://www.wpr.org/consequences-winter-wolf-hunt?fbclid=IwAR3zn_ynEeA900NG_67eGItorJwZYmVWaNT_D3GfrN5b1UWGqY-m6hJWnHE

Even experts say the wolf hunt in Wisconsin has serious consequences.

...Yes?

[Salus Maior]

Yeah, I don't think anyone objects to that hunt being botched.

But they keep saying they are environmentalists.

A lot of hunters I know are very environmentally conscious, I think it's a common sentiment among people who enjoy the wilderness to want to preserve the wilderness.

That being said, whether it was due to poor oversight or irresponsible hunters, this hunt went wrong. I don't think that's representative of hunting overall.