Should Hunting for Sport be Banned?

[The Two Jerseys]

It's my view that semi and full-autos are unsporting.

The fairness of any particular lineup is subjective, and not a great argument for regulation.

I mean, I'd be for it if it means that us skinny people get to carry a Glock 18 with a 33 round mag everywhere we go.

You know, just to make it a fair fight against the chads and all...

[Nantoraka]

It's my view that semi and full-autos are unsporting.

What defines "sporting"?

Fair chase rules.

The ability to give an animal a fair chance while hunting it - it's actually a required unit in hunter's education.

Same goes for using thermals, oversized/inappropriate ammunition, shooting from a vehicle, etc etc.

Using semi-automatic weapons puts you at a higher advantage due to the high rate of fire; bolt-actions force you to slow down and conserve your aiming. Semis and the rare full auto you can just rattle off as many shots as you need to; escaping is harder for the animal if it's constantly being fired at.

[Nantoraka]

I don't go anywhere without my mutated anthrax, for duck hunting.

National Raygun Association when?

First they come for the mad scientists, then the mad grad students.

When will it end???

[Adamede]

Not what sporting means.

It's my view that semi and full-autos are unsporting.

How is a semi auto any more unsporting than a bolt, lever, or pump action rifle?

[Adamede]

What defines "sporting"?

Fair chase rules.

The ability to give an animal a fair chance while hunting it - it's actually a required unit in hunter's education.

Same goes for using thermals, oversized/inappropriate ammunition, shooting from a vehicle, etc etc.

Using semi-automatic weapons puts you at a higher advantage due to the high rate of fire; bolt-actions force you to slow down and conserve your aiming. Semis and the rare full auto you can just rattle off as many shots as you need to; escaping is harder for the animal if it's constantly being fired at.

By that logic the only guns u should be allowed to use are single shots.

[Grinning Dragon]

It's my view that semi and full-autos are unsporting.

How is a semi auto any more unsporting than a bolt, lever, or pump action rifle?

It isn't, it's purely subjective. Such thinking is what gave rise to the 3 round rule in pump and or semi auto shotguns for waterfowl hunting and the elimination of using punt guns.

[Nantoraka]

Fair chase rules.

The ability to give an animal a fair chance while hunting it - it's actually a required unit in hunter's education.

Same goes for using thermals, oversized/inappropriate ammunition, shooting from a vehicle, etc etc.

Using semi-automatic weapons puts you at a higher advantage due to the high rate of fire; bolt-actions force you to slow down and conserve your aiming. Semis and the rare full auto you can just rattle off as many shots as you need to; escaping is harder for the animal if it's constantly being fired at.

By that logic the only guns u should be allowed to use are single shots.

No, the logic is that you're making the hunt fair for the animal by adjusting your equipment accordingly. You use a bolt action, you allow the animal an opportunity to escape if you miss. If it doesn't escape in time, you're given a chance to fire again.

If you use a literal musket like you're implying, it's unfair to you and the animal. Because one, you're not going to hit anything since you won't get close enough for an accurate shot, and two, you're not going to kill the animal in one shot. You're going to leave it wounded and suffering while you take 2 minutes to reload.

[Grinning Dragon]

By that logic the only guns u should be allowed to use are single shots.

No, the logic is that you're making the hunt fair for the animal by adjusting your equipment accordingly. You use a bolt action, you allow the animal an opportunity to escape if you miss. If it doesn't escape in time, you're given a chance to fire again.

If you use a literal musket like you're implying, it's unfair to you and the animal. Because one, you're not going to hit anything since you won't get close enough for an accurate shot, and two, you're not going to kill the animal in one shot. You're going to leave it wounded and suffering while you take 2 minutes to reload.

Fuck fair. Work smart not hard.

[Nantoraka]

No, the logic is that you're making the hunt fair for the animal by adjusting your equipment accordingly. You use a bolt action, you allow the animal an opportunity to escape if you miss. If it doesn't escape in time, you're given a chance to fire again.

If you use a literal musket like you're implying, it's unfair to you and the animal. Because one, you're not going to hit anything since you won't get close enough for an accurate shot, and two, you're not going to kill the animal in one shot. You're going to leave it wounded and suffering while you take 2 minutes to reload.

Fuck fair. Work smart not hard.

Don't know why you'd hunt then; the joy is in the challenge which enriches the reward.

[Grinning Dragon]

Fuck fair. Work smart not hard.

Don't know why you'd hunt then; the joy is in the challenge which enriches the reward.

Been hunting since I could walk, I'm there to get my food and get out, I'm efficient at killin' animals, no fuss no muss, no pleasure, there to do a job, that's it.

[Ors Might]

Fuck fair. Work smart not hard.

Don't know why you'd hunt then; the joy is in the challenge which enriches the reward.

Quality meat is reason enough for joy, honestly.

[Sundiata]

Don't know why you'd hunt then; the joy is in the challenge which enriches the reward.

Been hunting since I could walk, I'm there to get my food and get out, I'm efficient at killin' animals, no fuss no muss, no pleasure, there to do a job, that's it.

While animals aren't human beings they still have dignity. Just because we hunt animals doesn't mean that we should ever behave like them. Hunting is a sport, where's the sportsmanship in a massacre?

Don't know why you'd hunt then; the joy is in the challenge which enriches the reward.

Quality meat is reason enough for joy, honestly.

There will come a day when meat will hardly be eaten.

[Greater Cesnica]

Been hunting since I could walk, I'm there to get my food and get out, I'm efficient at killin' animals, no fuss no muss, no pleasure, there to do a job, that's it.

While animals aren't human beings they still have dignity. Just because we hunt animals doesn't mean that we should ever behave like them. Hunting is a sport, where's the sportsmanship in a massacre?

GD clearly stated that food was the reasoning for their hunting. That's a substantive cause, and justifies a hunt in my eyes.

[Sundiata]

While animals aren't human beings they still have dignity. Just because we hunt animals doesn't mean that we should ever behave like them. Hunting is a sport, where's the sportsmanship in a massacre?

GD clearly stated that food was the reasoning for their hunting. That's a substantive cause, and justifies a hunt in my eyes.

Animals have dignity. Why not just buy meat that one doesn't have to massacre or eat vegetables?

[Ors Might]

Been hunting since I could walk, I'm there to get my food and get out, I'm efficient at killin' animals, no fuss no muss, no pleasure, there to do a job, that's it.

While animals aren't human beings they still have dignity. Just because we hunt animals doesn't mean that we should ever behave like them. Hunting is a sport, where's the sportsmanship in a massacre?

Quality meat is reason enough for joy, honestly.

There will come a day when meat will hardly be eaten.

Questionable and regardless, that day is not this day.

On the subject of fairness in a hunt, nah. I’m not going to feel bad if my species’ inherent superiority makes it easier for us to kill deer and such. They want a fair chance? Then they ought to get good.

[Ors Might]

GD clearly stated that food was the reasoning for their hunting. That's a substantive cause, and justifies a hunt in my eyes.

Animals have dignity. Why not just buy meat that one doesn't have to massacre or eat vegetables?

Factory meat is arguably closer to the definition of a massacre than meat you get from hunting.

[The Two Jerseys]

By that logic the only guns u should be allowed to use are single shots.

No, the logic is that you're making the hunt fair for the animal by adjusting your equipment accordingly. You use a bolt action, you allow the animal an opportunity to escape if you miss. If it doesn't escape in time, you're given a chance to fire again.

You know what happens if your first shot wounds the animal and it escapes before you can make a follow-up shot, right? Why do you want the animals to suffer?

If you use a literal musket like you're implying, it's unfair to you and the animal. Because one, you're not going to hit anything since you won't get close enough for an accurate shot, and two, you're not going to kill the animal in one shot. You're going to leave it wounded and suffering while you take 2 minutes to reload.

The level of ignorance here is astounding...

[Sundiata]

While animals aren't human beings they still have dignity. Just because we hunt animals doesn't mean that we should ever behave like them. Hunting is a sport, where's the sportsmanship in a massacre?


There will come a day when meat will hardly be eaten.

Questionable and regardless, that day is not this day.

On the subject of fairness in a hunt, nah. I’m not going to feel bad if my species’ inherent superiority makes it easier for us to kill deer and such. They want a fair chance? Then they ought to get good.

We are superior to animals and that's why we shouldn't treat them with cruelty.

[Ors Might]

Questionable and regardless, that day is not this day.

On the subject of fairness in a hunt, nah. I’m not going to feel bad if my species’ inherent superiority makes it easier for us to kill deer and such. They want a fair chance? Then they ought to get good.

We are superior to animals and that's why we shouldn't treat them with cruelty.

Killing them swiftly, painlessly, and surely isn’t cruelty.

[Nantoraka]

Been hunting since I could walk, I'm there to get my food and get out, I'm efficient at killin' animals, no fuss no muss, no pleasure, there to do a job, that's it.

While animals aren't human beings they still have dignity. Just because we hunt animals doesn't mean that we should ever behave like them. Hunting is a sport, where's the sportsmanship in a massacre?

Exactly. I've been hunting all my life; animals from your common whitetail or mule deer and waterfowl, to bighorn sheep and bears. I live on the challenge to hike for miles and miles in the outback for prey.

I have weapons that are extremely good for hunting; chief among them, an AR-10 chambered in .308 Winchester with a binary trigger.
You will never see me use that weapon for hunting; using it for that becomes less hunting and more of a slaughter. I will always stick with a bolt-action (the caliber and model depends on the animal), and whatever equipment I need to field dress and navigate.

[Ors Might]

While animals aren't human beings they still have dignity. Just because we hunt animals doesn't mean that we should ever behave like them. Hunting is a sport, where's the sportsmanship in a massacre?

Exactly. I've been hunting all my life; animals from your common whitetail or mule deer and waterfowl, to bighorn sheep and bears. I live on the challenge to hike for miles and miles in the outback for prey.

I have weapons that are extremely good for hunting; chief among them, an AR-10 chambered in .308 Winchester with a binary trigger.
You will never see me use that weapon for hunting; using it for that becomes less hunting and more of a slaughter. I will always stick with a bolt-action (the caliber and model depends on the animal), and whatever equipment I need to field dress and navigate.

I don’t think the animal will appreciate that “sporting chance” you gave it when you’re turning it into dinner.

[Nantoraka]

Animals have dignity. Why not just buy meat that one doesn't have to massacre or eat vegetables?

Factory meat is arguably closer to the definition of a massacre than meat you get from hunting.

^^^ This
Factory made meat is some of the most cruelly manufactured meat. Yeah it's necessary to feed a large populace cheaply but...the things that go on in these factories are brutal and saddening.

[Nantoraka]

Exactly. I've been hunting all my life; animals from your common whitetail or mule deer and waterfowl, to bighorn sheep and bears. I live on the challenge to hike for miles and miles in the outback for prey.

I have weapons that are extremely good for hunting; chief among them, an AR-10 chambered in .308 Winchester with a binary trigger.
You will never see me use that weapon for hunting; using it for that becomes less hunting and more of a slaughter. I will always stick with a bolt-action (the caliber and model depends on the animal), and whatever equipment I need to field dress and navigate.

I don’t think the animal will appreciate that “sporting chance” you gave it when you’re turning it into dinner.

If I miss the first shot and it runs away while I'm cocking the bolt, it sure will lol

[Ors Might]

I don’t think the animal will appreciate that “sporting chance” you gave it when you’re turning it into dinner.

If I miss the first shot and it runs away while I'm cocking the bolt, it sure will lol

Possibly. But if you hit and kill in one, it doesn’t matter much to the prey what gun you used, does it?

[Grinning Dragon]

GD clearly stated that food was the reasoning for their hunting. That's a substantive cause, and justifies a hunt in my eyes.

Animals have dignity. Why not just buy meat that one doesn't have to massacre or eat vegetables?

Massacre? I can count on one hand the times I've had to ring out a follow up shot and that was when I was younger and less experienced, however a semi auto allows for quick follow up shots.