by San Lumen » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:30 pm
by Nilokeras » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:36 pm
by San Lumen » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:39 pm
Nilokeras wrote:In the absence of an ideal world where large predators can be re-introduced across their native range in North America hunting can be a valuable tool of population control for large ungulates and other herbivores that at the moment have few natural predators. Large predator hunts, on the other hand, which are almost solely done for trophies or entertainment rather than food, should be mostly banned as they serve no conservation purpose.
First Nations traditional hunting and foraging practices are also beneficial to maintain, as the total catch and impact even on large predators is usually low and is part of a suite of land management practices that indigenous peoples have maintained for millenia and that have proven to promote ecosystem stability.
by Honeydewistania » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:42 pm
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by Anatoliyanskiy » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:43 pm
by Punished UMN » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:43 pm
San Lumen wrote:https://www.kare11.com/article/sports/outdoors/wisconsin-wolf-hunt-ends-early-hunters-trappers-exceed-kill-target/89-6f8059e4-ae02-47b3-97cb-1516e8c51a58
https://www.startribune.com/hunters-and ... 600026878/
The Wisconsin Wolf hunt ended after only two days due to hunters exceeding the kill target. The Department of Natural Resources closed the season after hunters and trappers had killed 178 wolves, which was 59 more than the state's target of 119. Hunters and trappers exceeded their target in all six of the state's management zones.
These animals were killed not for food or protecting people but for sheer ruthless fun and its utterly despicable.
Hunting for sport is morally and ethically wrong and there is no reason for it. Wolf cubs will now be left without parents and not be able to survive. Packs will be destroyed and whole ecosystems possibly disrupted. Hunting for sport should be outlawed as their is no justification for it. Getting a thrill out of killing a wild animal is disgusting.
Your Thoughts NSG?
by Punished UMN » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:45 pm
San Lumen wrote:Nilokeras wrote:In the absence of an ideal world where large predators can be re-introduced across their native range in North America hunting can be a valuable tool of population control for large ungulates and other herbivores that at the moment have few natural predators. Large predator hunts, on the other hand, which are almost solely done for trophies or entertainment rather than food, should be mostly banned as they serve no conservation purpose.
First Nations traditional hunting and foraging practices are also beneficial to maintain, as the total catch and impact even on large predators is usually low and is part of a suite of land management practices that indigenous peoples have maintained for millenia and that have proven to promote ecosystem stability.
and this had no benefit other than for someone's sick idea of fun.
by San Lumen » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:45 pm
Punished UMN wrote:San Lumen wrote:https://www.kare11.com/article/sports/outdoors/wisconsin-wolf-hunt-ends-early-hunters-trappers-exceed-kill-target/89-6f8059e4-ae02-47b3-97cb-1516e8c51a58
https://www.startribune.com/hunters-and ... 600026878/
The Wisconsin Wolf hunt ended after only two days due to hunters exceeding the kill target. The Department of Natural Resources closed the season after hunters and trappers had killed 178 wolves, which was 59 more than the state's target of 119. Hunters and trappers exceeded their target in all six of the state's management zones.
These animals were killed not for food or protecting people but for sheer ruthless fun and its utterly despicable.
Hunting for sport is morally and ethically wrong and there is no reason for it. Wolf cubs will now be left without parents and not be able to survive. Packs will be destroyed and whole ecosystems possibly disrupted. Hunting for sport should be outlawed as their is no justification for it. Getting a thrill out of killing a wild animal is disgusting.
Your Thoughts NSG?
The state allows hunting for conservation purposes, not just because it's fun. Also most hunters do eat what they kill or at least give it to other people to eat, as not doing so is illegal in most places.
by Resilient Acceleration » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:45 pm
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by Punished UMN » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:47 pm
San Lumen wrote:Punished UMN wrote:The state allows hunting for conservation purposes, not just because it's fun. Also most hunters do eat what they kill or at least give it to other people to eat, as not doing so is illegal in most places.
I dont care. Its a travesty to shoot a wild animal causing no harm to you and this was not done for food. There is no reason to hunt wolves or any other wild animal. Let them be.
by San Lumen » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:49 pm
Punished UMN wrote:San Lumen wrote:
I dont care. Its a travesty to shoot a wild animal causing no harm to you and this was not done for food. There is no reason to hunt wolves or any other wild animal. Let them be.
If you don't hunt them for conservation purposes, overpopulation will result in dangerous interactions between people and animals (predatory attacks on humans have increased because bear populations have gone up, and the first fatal predatory attacks on humans by wolves and coyotes happened recently), and disease would spread which could potentially be totally destructive on the population and could be transmissible to other species.
by Punished UMN » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:50 pm
San Lumen wrote:Punished UMN wrote:If you don't hunt them for conservation purposes, overpopulation will result in dangerous interactions between people and animals (predatory attacks on humans have increased because bear populations have gone up, and the first fatal predatory attacks on humans by wolves and coyotes happened recently), and disease would spread which could potentially be totally destructive on the population and could be transmissible to other species.
Yet there is no evidenced of overpopulation and the target was exceeded therefore people were doing this for a sick thrill and not for conversation.
by Resilient Acceleration » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:51 pm
Punished UMN wrote:San Lumen wrote:
I dont care. Its a travesty to shoot a wild animal causing no harm to you and this was not done for food. There is no reason to hunt wolves or any other wild animal. Let them be.
If you don't hunt them for conservation purposes, overpopulation will result in dangerous interactions between people and animals (predatory attacks on humans have increased because bear populations have gone up, and the first fatal predatory attacks on humans by wolves and coyotes happened recently), and disease would spread which could potentially be totally destructive on the population and could be transmissible to other species.
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by Punished UMN » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:52 pm
by San Lumen » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:52 pm
Punished UMN wrote:San Lumen wrote:
Yet there is no evidenced of overpopulation and the target was exceeded therefore people were doing this for a sick thrill and not for conversation.
Those statements don't logically follow.
"There is no evidence of overpopulation", from where are you getting this information? That wolves are no longer endangered would seem to suggest otherwise.
"the target was exceeded" yes, "therefore people were doing this for a sick thrill and not for conservation", this part doesn't follow, the people hunting wouldn't have known the target was exceeded.
by Punished UMN » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:52 pm
Resilient Acceleration wrote:Punished UMN wrote:If you don't hunt them for conservation purposes, overpopulation will result in dangerous interactions between people and animals (predatory attacks on humans have increased because bear populations have gone up, and the first fatal predatory attacks on humans by wolves and coyotes happened recently), and disease would spread which could potentially be totally destructive on the population and could be transmissible to other species.
Or more likely, such threat will incentivize the local population to hunt them for non-sport purposes. Especially if they start threatening local farms or whatnot.
by Punished UMN » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:54 pm
San Lumen wrote:Punished UMN wrote:Those statements don't logically follow.
"There is no evidence of overpopulation", from where are you getting this information? That wolves are no longer endangered would seem to suggest otherwise.
"the target was exceeded" yes, "therefore people were doing this for a sick thrill and not for conservation", this part doesn't follow, the people hunting wouldn't have known the target was exceeded.
They became endangered because of hunting.
Nature has other ways of controlling populations. Humans should not be mindlessly killing beautiful creatures on the off chance a disease could spread. Perhaps we should stop encroaching on forests?
by San Lumen » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:54 pm
Punished UMN wrote:And even if it were true in this specific instance, it still wouldn't be a valuable condemnation of sport-hunting overall, which is done for conservation the vast majority of the time. Moreover, sport hunting is a huge boon for many poor countries which otherwise would have little means of attracting foreign capital.
by Punished UMN » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:55 pm
San Lumen wrote:Punished UMN wrote:And even if it were true in this specific instance, it still wouldn't be a valuable condemnation of sport-hunting overall, which is done for conservation the vast majority of the time. Moreover, sport hunting is a huge boon for many poor countries which otherwise would have little means of attracting foreign capital.
Don;t care. Hunting for sport is totally unacceptable and morally wrong.
by Grinning Dragon » Thu Feb 25, 2021 3:55 pm
San Lumen wrote:Punished UMN wrote:And even if it were true in this specific instance, it still wouldn't be a valuable condemnation of sport-hunting overall, which is done for conservation the vast majority of the time. Moreover, sport hunting is a huge boon for many poor countries which otherwise would have little means of attracting foreign capital.
Don;t care. Hunting for sport is totally unacceptable and morally wrong.
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