by Socialist States of Ludistan » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:12 pm
by Sundiata » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:13 pm
by Illegal Galaxies » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:16 pm
by Washington Resistance Army » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:17 pm
by Socialist States of Ludistan » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:19 pm
Sundiata wrote:It's silly because it's not anarchy. Property rights, historically speaking, are enforced by the state.
Washington Resistance Army wrote:It's more of a meme than AnPrim is.
by Sundiata » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:22 pm
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:But Ancap isn’t real anarchy, and it also doesn’t have a super oppressive state.
by Odreria » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:26 pm
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:I would say, out of all the extremes, Ancap is the world I’d be happiest to live in, so I’d say it’s a bit based.
But what are your thoughts?
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says
by Belands » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:26 pm
by Socialist States of Ludistan » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:29 pm
by Socialist States of Ludistan » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:30 pm
Belands wrote:An Ancap society would definitely be far from a utopia. It would very quickly devolve into two classes: the 1% who own all major business and control the economy, and thus the entire nation, and the workers who, without state regulations, will just be faceless, nameless fodder for the industrial machine. People not born into a rich family will likely never break free from the working class, and simply slave away until they perish. I doubt the life expectancy of an Ancap society would be far past 30. But hey, imagine the GDP!
Odreria wrote:It's been tried, it was called Kowloon Walled City.
"Anarcho capitalism" essentially means rule by organized crime.
by Odreria » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:31 pm
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:Belands wrote:An Ancap society would definitely be far from a utopia. It would very quickly devolve into two classes: the 1% who own all major business and control the economy, and thus the entire nation, and the workers who, without state regulations, will just be faceless, nameless fodder for the industrial machine. People not born into a rich family will likely never break free from the working class, and simply slave away until they perish. I doubt the life expectancy of an Ancap society would be far past 30. But hey, imagine the GDP!
I’m aware, but I still believe it’s the best ideology out of all the four extremes.
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by Socialist States of Ludistan » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:35 pm
by Sundiata » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:40 pm
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by Odreria » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:42 pm
Valrifell wrote:
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by Sundiata » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:43 pm
by Armeattla » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:43 pm
Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:Sundiata wrote:It's silly because it's not anarchy. Property rights, historically speaking, are enforced by the state.
Exactly, which is why it’s the one I’d be most delighted to live in.
Communism and fascism are out of the question, don’t even need to say why.
And so is Ancom, since it’s actually anarchy, and anarchy is a no-go from me.
But Ancap isn’t real anarchy, and it also doesn’t have a super oppressive state.
The idea of Ancap is so weird that it just because libertarianism, and I can live with that.Washington Resistance Army wrote:It's more of a meme than AnPrim is.
That doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s a bad ideology.
by Socialist States of Ludistan » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:44 pm
by Socialist States of Ludistan » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:46 pm
by Armeattla » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:46 pm
by Socialist States of Ludistan » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:47 pm
Armeattla wrote:Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:Exactly, which is why it’s the one I’d be most delighted to live in.
Communism and fascism are out of the question, don’t even need to say why.
And so is Ancom, since it’s actually anarchy, and anarchy is a no-go from me.
But Ancap isn’t real anarchy, and it also doesn’t have a super oppressive state.
The idea of Ancap is so weird that it just because libertarianism, and I can live with that.
That doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s a bad ideology.
the only difference between Anarcho-Communism and Communism is the means of achieving communism, a stateless, classless, moneyless society built upon collective ownership of the means of production.
Ancoms aim for education and radicalization of society untill they can pull off an insurrection to rid themselves of the state. Gommies aim to radicalize and educate enough people to pull off a revolution to establish a vanguard state who's aim it is to safeguard and spread the revolution - when class has disappeared the state's function is supposed to be fullfilled and therefore will disintigrate.
The difference of both can be easily explained with as what they think the state is:
Anarchists: "The state is a monopoly of violence used by the owning classes to oppress the working classes."
Communists: "The state is a monopoly of violence used by the owning classes to oppress the working classes."
by Gamers Rise Up Land » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:47 pm
by Sundiata » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:47 pm
Gamers Rise Up Land wrote:Yes and it is the only true Anarchism
by Illegal Galaxies » Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:47 pm
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