by Forsher » Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:57 pm
by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:00 pm
by Kowani » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:05 pm
by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:08 pm
Kowani wrote:Depends on what your reasoning for the stance and who you want to let in is, doesn’t it?
by The Reformed American Republic » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:09 pm
Kowani wrote:Depends on what your reasoning for the stance and who you want to let in is, doesn’t it?
by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:10 pm
by The Reformed American Republic » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:13 pm
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:The Kochs are for open borders for cheap labor. They're not left wing of course.
Theres a long history of corporations using illegal immigrants to pick fruit while paying them substandard wages. Capitalists love when they have an immigrant labor pool they can use and abuse.
by Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:15 pm
The Reformed American Republic wrote:Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Theres a long history of corporations using illegal immigrants to pick fruit while paying them substandard wages. Capitalists love when they have an immigrant labor pool they can use and abuse.
I oppose immigration on that basis. I don't know what that makes me, but I would happily deny corporate America a source of cheap labor.
by The Reformed American Republic » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:16 pm
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:The Reformed American Republic wrote:I oppose immigration on that basis. I don't know what that makes me, but I would happily deny corporate America a source of cheap labor.
Most of us here hate the "free market" as it currently stands. The free in the phrase must stand for "free to make the world a worse place to live for everyone who isn't rich."
by Catsfern » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:17 pm
by Punished UMN » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:19 pm
by The Reformed American Republic » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:19 pm
Catsfern wrote:From what I can tell the debate in the U.S. at least is less about immigration and more about illegal immigration. No one is saying that we shouldn't allow immigrants the the U.S. Everyone seems to be in agreement that's ok, but there are people to move into the US without going through the proper processes, and the debate is more concerned around them. The further right wing you get the more you hear arguments supporting mass deportation and increased security measures on the border. The further left wing you get the more you hear arguments of just giving them citizenship if they managed to get here and opening up the process to make it easier and easier.
by Gun Rights Media Ctr and Illiberal State » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:19 pm
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by The Reformed American Republic » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:24 pm
Gun Rights Media Ctr and Illiberal State wrote:The Illiberal Sate accepts all immigrants of genetic and practical worth. Dysgenics, liberals, layabouts, weaklings, uglies and enemy agents are kept out. Most fighters are immigrants from the United States mainland, Europe and unconquered reaches of Canada. Personally, I live in a very unfortunate area and see many (in my personal opinion) disagreeable equatorial races and oppose it on those grounds, but I will been soon moving to the northern reaches and will likely not give two fucks about the rotten southwest.
by Odreria » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:26 pm
Valrifell wrote:
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by Wallenburg » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:27 pm
by Odreria » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:28 pm
Wallenburg wrote:Any consistent socialist supports immigration. The free movement of goods and people is a necessary component to a democratic society.
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says
by Wallenburg » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:30 pm
by The Reformed American Republic » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:30 pm
by Odreria » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:32 pm
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says
by Infected Mushroom » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:32 pm
by Wallenburg » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:37 pm
by Kromi » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:41 pm
Infected Mushroom wrote:Isn’t it left wing?
Since immigrants foreseeably change/alter the culture and traditions of the country and right-wingers are supposed to be about defending and re-asserting the existing national/cultural identity (or in some way reverting to a glorified past)?
I’d say if you have a country with an overall right wing economic and social ideology but you also support increased immigration, even if you use neoliberal justifications... it takes away from the overall right-wing composition rather than adding to it because it’s saying “I know immigration will do this to an extent but it’s okay in this case for the culture and the national identity to get shifted a bit.”
However, it’s possible that would just be one left wing position amongst countless right wing positions elsewhere.
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by Odreria » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:42 pm
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says
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