Japanese "Co-Prosperity Sphere": What was it really?

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

History textbooks are generally strongly ethnonationalist in many countries. That is, they want you to hate your neighbors outside the country. The world would have been better if these things have never existed since they are full of propaganda.

Yeah, and Japan's history textbook all but erase most of WWII from Japanese history.

Exactly which is why national history textbooks are very poor sources of truth. These nonsense are why we have Turkish and Armenian posters hating each other.

[New haven america]

You know China wasn't communist during WWII, right?

And that they attacked more countries than just China?

And that the US isn't Anglo, it's majority German actually?

And that Hawaii is mostly Polynesian and Japanese, not White, right?

A non-communist China is still China.

I like how you ignore all my other questions and only give a non-answer to the only one you did answer.

Please answer my questions.

[Picairn]

They are real. Then what?

"Then what?" The US should have abolished Japan.

[New haven america]

Yeah, and Japan's history textbook all but erase most of WWII from Japanese history.

Exactly which is why national history textbooks are very poor sources of truth.

And which is why most historians don't get their information only from text books.

And the consensus is that The Japanese Empire was very bad, worse than Nazi Germany in a lot of ways.

[New haven america]

They are real. Then what?

"Then what?" The US should have abolished Japan.

Nihongo as the 49th state. (Alaska and Hawaii didn't get bumped up until 1949)

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

A non-communist China is still China.

I like how you ignore all my other questions and only give a non-answer to the only one you did answer.

Please answer my questions.

You are implying that a non-communist China is somehow acceptable. No. It is still China. As long as China exists it has to be abolished. This doesn’t imply that Japan should have gotten in though...for their own sake attempting to rule over China usually causes one’s own civilization to be corrupted by it.

I know that they attacked countries other than China. Did I not say that the war was unfortunate and should not have happened?

US is not majority German. It was probably not majority German either.

Hawaii does not and did not have that many Polynesians. It is mostly a mixture of Japanese, Filipinos and Europeans.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

They are real. Then what?

"Then what?" The US should have abolished Japan.

For what? You want a depopulate & repopulate?

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Exactly which is why national history textbooks are very poor sources of truth.

And which is why most historians don't get their information only from text books.

And the consensus is that The Japanese Empire was very bad, worse than Nazi Germany in a lot of ways.

Most historians got no info from national history textbooks since these things are very unreliable.

[Comerciante]

"Then what?" The US should have abolished Japan.

For what? You want a depopulate & repopulate?

"Yep. Then we get to work on China! Clearly Asians are to dangerous to have nations."

/s?

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

For what? You want a depopulate & repopulate?

"Yep. Then we get to work on China! Clearly Asians are to dangerous to have nations."

/s?

The world is fundamentally brutal. Without Japan this shit could have happened. In fact why not replace “have nations” with “live”? If balance of power is sufficiently lopsided this question will be asked.

[New haven america]

I like how you ignore all my other questions and only give a non-answer to the only one you did answer.

Please answer my questions.

1. You are implying that a non-communist China is somehow acceptable. No. It is still China. 2. As long as China exists it has to be abolished. This doesn’t imply that Japan should have gotten in though...for their own sake attempting to rule over China usually causes one’s own civilization to be corrupted by it.

3. I know that they attacked countries other than China. Did I not say that the war was unfortunate and should not have happened?

4. US is not majority German. It was probably not majority German either.

5. Hawaii does not and did not have that many Polynesians. 6. It is mostly a mixture of Japanese, Filipinos and Europeans.

1. Yes it is.
2. Why?
3. Well that kind of got drowned out in all your support for Japan destroying China, leading a genocide, and exploiting its neighbors.
4. It is, actually. Germans are the largest ethnic ancestral group in the US.
5. 60% of Hawaii's population is Native Hawaiian and Hawaiian is still an official language over there.
6. And that's where you're wrong kiddo~

[New haven america]

And which is why most historians don't get their information only from text books.

And the consensus is that The Japanese Empire was very bad, worse than Nazi Germany in a lot of ways.

Most historians got no info from national history textbooks since these things are very unreliable.

And the consensus was that Japan was the bad guy.

Can you admit that Japan was the bad guy?

[Comerciante]

"Yep. Then we get to work on China! Clearly Asians are to dangerous to have nations."

/s?

The world is fundamentally brutal. Without Japan this shit could have happened.

Yep. That's why we need to abolish it to. We'll abolish China next, then Korea, then we can probably move on to Hong Kong. It's going to be a lot of countries.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

1. You are implying that a non-communist China is somehow acceptable. No. It is still China. 2. As long as China exists it has to be abolished. This doesn’t imply that Japan should have gotten in though...for their own sake attempting to rule over China usually causes one’s own civilization to be corrupted by it.

3. I know that they attacked countries other than China. Did I not say that the war was unfortunate and should not have happened?

4. US is not majority German. It was probably not majority German either.

5. Hawaii does not and did not have that many Polynesians. 6. It is mostly a mixture of Japanese, Filipinos and Europeans.

1. Yes it is.
2. Why?
3. Well that kind of got drowned out in all your support for Japan destroying China, leading a genocide, and exploiting its neighbors.
4. It is, actually. German's are the largest ethnic ancestral group in the US.
5. 60% of Hawaii's population is Native Hawaiian and Hawaiian is still an official language over there.
6. And that's where you're wrong kiddo~

Lol the largest ethnic group is not majority unless it is over 50%.

Moreover you can look up Hawaiian demographics yourself. It is not 60% native.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Most historians got no info from national history textbooks since these things are very unreliable.

And the consensus was that Japan was the bad guy.

Can you admit that Japan was the bad guy?

Nope. In real history “the bad guy” doesn’t exist. If your history book has good and evil then it is biased propaganda.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

The world is fundamentally brutal. Without Japan this shit could have happened.

Yep. That's why we need to abolish it to. We'll abolish China next, then Korea, then we can probably move on to Hong Kong. It's going to be a lot of countries.

What’s funny is that a few paragraphs in Turner Diary does include a vague explanation of that. There is a reason why it is vague though: it is not feasible. However in a world where it is physically feasible for too long it will also actually happen.

[New haven america]

1. Yes it is.
2. Why?
3. Well that kind of got drowned out in all your support for Japan destroying China, leading a genocide, and exploiting its neighbors.
4. It is, actually. German's are the largest ethnic ancestral group in the US.
5. 60% of Hawaii's population is Native Hawaiian and Hawaiian is still an official language over there.
6. And that's where you're wrong kiddo~

1. Lol the largest ethnic group is not majority unless it is over 50%.

2. Moreover you can look up Hawaiian demographics yourself. It is not 60% native.

1. Yes, and German descendants make up over 50% of the population.
2. Already did, 60% native. White people are a minority over there. (And it's the only state in the union where white people are a minority)

Also, you didn't answer my question. Please answer all of my questions if you wish to continue this.

[New haven america]

And the consensus was that Japan was the bad guy.

Can you admit that Japan was the bad guy?

Nope. In real history “the bad guy” doesn’t exist. If your history book has good and evil then it is biased propaganda.

So which county killed 20 million people, used babies as base balls, raped women with with iron spikes while forcing their fathers/brothers and lovers to watch, played beheading games, etc...?

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

1. Lol the largest ethnic group is not majority unless it is over 50%.

2. Moreover you can look up Hawaiian demographics yourself. It is not 60% native.

1. Yes, and German descendants make up over 50% of the population.
2. Already did, 60% native. White people are a minority over there. (And it's the only state in the union where white people are a minority)

Also, you didn't answer my question. Please answer all of my questions if you wish to continue this.

1. You are moving the goalpost. Part Germans don’t count here.
2. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/HI

Seriously? 60% Natives?!

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Nope. In real history “the bad guy” doesn’t exist. If your history book has good and evil then it is biased propaganda.

So which county killed 20 million people, used babies as base balls, raped women with with iron spikes while forcing their fathers/brothers and lovers to watch, played beheading games, etc...?

Japan did. An objective account of history will include these stuff and leave the readers to decide.

[Shawpstiningham]

Join ARKANOS Join the movement be on the right side of history

[New haven america]

1. Yes, and German descendants make up over 50% of the population.
2. Already did, 60% native. White people are a minority over there. (And it's the only state in the union where white people are a minority)

Also, you didn't answer my question. Please answer all of my questions if you wish to continue this.

1. You are moving the goalpost. Part Germans don’t count here.
2. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/HI

Seriously? 60% Natives?!

1. No, I'm truthfully answering your question. If we're going by your logic than Anglo Americans are even lower than German descended ones.
2. You know Polynesians are considered to be classed in with Asians right? So ~50%-60% depending on your source. Gee, you sure showed me by proving that Hawaiians are the majority of Hawaii.

[New haven america]

So which county killed 20 million people, used babies as base balls, raped women with with iron spikes while forcing their fathers/brothers and lovers to watch, played beheading games, etc...?

Japan did. An objective account of history will include these stuff and leave the readers to decide.

And would you consider indiscriminate murder and rape bad?

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

1. You are moving the goalpost. Part Germans don’t count here.
2. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/HI

Seriously? 60% Natives?!

1. No, I'm truthfully answering your question. If we're going by your logic than Anglo Americans are even lower than German descended ones.
2. You know Polynesians are considered to be classed in with Asians right? So ~50%-60% depending on your source. Gee, you sure showed me by proving that Hawaiians are the majority of Hawaii.

Polynesians are Pacific Islanders in US censuses lol.

What even makes you think that Native Hawaiians are the majority of Hawaiians? They had very serious demographic decline when Eurasian diseases went there and then immigrants soon outnumbered natives.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Japan did. An objective account of history will include these stuff and leave the readers to decide.

And would you consider indiscriminate murder and rape bad?

Yup. However this doesn’t mean the net effect of Empire of Japan existing is bad. I never argued that Unit 731 was awesome. My argument has always been “despite the atrocities the Empire of Japan is net beneficial to humanity.”