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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:09 pm

Drew Durrnil wrote:Yes, i.e. traumatic experiences with LGBTQ.


I had a gay person belittle my coffee order once. Granted, he was probably making a few good points about how bland my order was, but that trauma has led me to deep homophobia, I mean, obviously.

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Postby Daarwyrth » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:10 pm

Istoreya wrote:
Crylante wrote:Can I just say as a gay person that I find it really disgusting that people consider this a topic really debating?

If you think homophobia can be justified in any instance, then you are objectively a homophobe.

Homophobia can be justified in the sense that homophobes will justify it with reasons. That part is a fact. But most of the time, the reasons are stupid and wrong. So.

When someone wants to hate someone or something and insists on doing so, they will even post malware-ridden sites to prove their point.
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Postby Istoreya » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:11 pm

Daarwyrth wrote:
Istoreya wrote:Homophobia can be justified in the sense that homophobes will justify it with reasons. That part is a fact. But most of the time, the reasons are stupid and wrong. So.

When someone wants to hate someone or something and insists on doing so, they will even post malware-ridden sites to prove their point.

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Postby Genivaria » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:12 pm

Novokria wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:Do you honestly not see how your opinions negatively affect LGBT people?

I'm against gay marriage not against gay people

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Postby Daarwyrth » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:12 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Drew Durrnil wrote:Yes, i.e. traumatic experiences with LGBTQ.


I had a gay person belittle my coffee order once. Granted, he was probably making a few good points about how bland my order was, but that trauma has led me to deep homophobia, I mean, obviously.

I was literally groped in a painful manner by a straight guy from my school who knew I was gay, when standing in front of him in a line, and he said "you like that you filthy faggot, you filthy piece of shit" in a very threatening manner. And yet, I'm not a heterophobe. If I can handle that, then they can handle being belittled for ordering a bland coffee ;)
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Postby Istoreya » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:15 pm

Daarwyrth wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I had a gay person belittle my coffee order once. Granted, he was probably making a few good points about how bland my order was, but that trauma has led me to deep homophobia, I mean, obviously.

I was literally groped in a painful manner by a straight guy from my school who knew I was gay when standing in a line, and he said "you like that you filthy faggot, you filthy piece of shit" in a very threatening manner. And yet, I'm not a heterophobe. If I can handle that, then they can handle being belittled for ordering a bland coffee ;)

Just throwing the idea out there... but if he, a male, groped you, a male... he might not have been straight. Not 100% anyway.

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Postby Major-Tom » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:15 pm

Daarwyrth wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I had a gay person belittle my coffee order once. Granted, he was probably making a few good points about how bland my order was, but that trauma has led me to deep homophobia, I mean, obviously.

I was literally groped in a painful manner by a straight guy from my school who knew I was gay when standing in a line, and he said "you like that you filthy faggot, you filthy piece of shit" in a very threatening manner. And yet, I'm not a heterophobe. If I can handle that, then they can handle being belittled for ordering a bland coffee ;)


Jesus Christ, well...I was being satirical. I mean, the story of getting belittled over my coffee is true, but I actually thought it was rather funny, not traumatic obviously. He was right too, who the fuck orders a black coffee from Starbucks? This bland guy apparently.

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Postby Sundiata » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:16 pm

Major-Tom wrote:who the fuck orders a black coffee from Starbucks?

I do Major-Tom, I do.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:17 pm

Daarwyrth wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
I had a gay person belittle my coffee order once. Granted, he was probably making a few good points about how bland my order was, but that trauma has led me to deep homophobia, I mean, obviously.

I was literally groped in a painful manner by a straight guy from my school who knew I was gay, when standing in front of him in a line, and he said "you like that you filthy faggot, you filthy piece of shit" in a very threatening manner. And yet, I'm not a heterophobe. If I can handle that, then they can handle being belittled for ordering a bland coffee ;)

Sounds like a guy who needed a punch to the face.
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Postby Daarwyrth » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:19 pm

Istoreya wrote:
Daarwyrth wrote:I was literally groped in a painful manner by a straight guy from my school who knew I was gay when standing in a line, and he said "you like that you filthy faggot, you filthy piece of shit" in a very threatening manner. And yet, I'm not a heterophobe. If I can handle that, then they can handle being belittled for ordering a bland coffee ;)

Just throwing the idea out there... but if he, a male, groped you, a male... he might not have been straight. Not 100% anyway.

I always assumed he did it because he bore a deep-seated hatred towards himself for not being 100% straight, even though what he did was in a very hateful and harmful manner. It's why I pity him for doing it, because if he simply accepted himself he wouldn't need to harm others in such a way.

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Daarwyrth wrote:I was literally groped in a painful manner by a straight guy from my school who knew I was gay when standing in a line, and he said "you like that you filthy faggot, you filthy piece of shit" in a very threatening manner. And yet, I'm not a heterophobe. If I can handle that, then they can handle being belittled for ordering a bland coffee ;)


Jesus Christ, well...I was being satirical. I mean, the story of getting belittled over my coffee is true, but I actually thought it was rather funny, not traumatic obviously. He was right too, who the fuck orders a black coffee from Starbucks? This bland guy apparently.

I was actually hoping to emphasise what you said with my experience, because when some people say "traumatic experiences with LGBTQ'ers" they literally mean stuff like you say xD

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Daarwyrth wrote:I was literally groped in a painful manner by a straight guy from my school who knew I was gay, when standing in front of him in a line, and he said "you like that you filthy faggot, you filthy piece of shit" in a very threatening manner. And yet, I'm not a heterophobe. If I can handle that, then they can handle being belittled for ordering a bland coffee ;)

Sounds like a guy who needed a punch to the face.

Today I would have hit him hard, but back then I was too timid.
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Postby Neutraligon » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:21 pm

Daarwyrth wrote:
Istoreya wrote:Just throwing the idea out there... but if he, a male, groped you, a male... he might not have been straight. Not 100% anyway.

I always assumed he did it because he bore a deep-seated hatred towards himself for not being 100% straight, even though what he did was in a very hateful and harmful manner. It's why I pity him for doing it, because if he simply accepted himself he wouldn't need to harm others in such a way.

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Jesus Christ, well...I was being satirical. I mean, the story of getting belittled over my coffee is true, but I actually thought it was rather funny, not traumatic obviously. He was right too, who the fuck orders a black coffee from Starbucks? This bland guy apparently.

I was actually hoping to emphasise what you said with my experience, because when some people say "traumatic experiences with LGBTQ'ers" they literally mean stuff like you say xD


I saw two men (and it is always men) kissing and it traumatized me for life since it made me gay. *nods
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Postby Daarwyrth » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:22 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Daarwyrth wrote:I always assumed he did it because he bore a deep-seated hatred towards himself for not being 100% straight, even though what he did was in a very hateful and harmful manner. It's why I pity him for doing it, because if he simply accepted himself he wouldn't need to harm others in such a way.


I was actually hoping to emphasise what you said with my experience, because when some people say "traumatic experiences with LGBTQ'ers" they literally mean stuff like you say xD


I saw two men (and it is always men) kissing and it traumatized me for life since it made me gay. *nods

Yep, because when two women do it, it's suddenly "sexy" and "hot".
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:24 pm

Daarwyrth wrote:
Istoreya wrote:Just throwing the idea out there... but if he, a male, groped you, a male... he might not have been straight. Not 100% anyway.

I always assumed he did it because he bore a deep-seated hatred towards himself for not being 100% straight, even though what he did was in a very hateful and harmful manner. It's why I pity him for doing it, because if he simply accepted himself he wouldn't need to harm others in such a way.

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Jesus Christ, well...I was being satirical. I mean, the story of getting belittled over my coffee is true, but I actually thought it was rather funny, not traumatic obviously. He was right too, who the fuck orders a black coffee from Starbucks? This bland guy apparently.

I was actually hoping to emphasise what you said with my experience, because when some people say "traumatic experiences with LGBTQ'ers" they literally mean stuff like you say xD

The Reformed American Republic wrote:Sounds like a guy who needed a punch to the face.

Today I would have hit him hard, but back then I was too timid.

Well, I hope something happened to him. I actually do.
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Neutraligon wrote:
Daarwyrth wrote:I always assumed he did it because he bore a deep-seated hatred towards himself for not being 100% straight, even though what he did was in a very hateful and harmful manner. It's why I pity him for doing it, because if he simply accepted himself he wouldn't need to harm others in such a way.


I was actually hoping to emphasise what you said with my experience, because when some people say "traumatic experiences with LGBTQ'ers" they literally mean stuff like you say xD


I saw two men (and it is always men) kissing and it traumatized me for life since it made me gay. *nods

Does this mean I can hold a deep-seated hatred for straight couples?
After all, it was my confusion over which of them I wanted to date more that made me realize I was bi.
I shall tell you that my puberty hit early 2010s, you win a cookie if you can tell exactly which couple I'm referring to.

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Postby National Capitalist United States » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:28 pm

Istoreya wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
I saw two men (and it is always men) kissing and it traumatized me for life since it made me gay. *nods

Does this mean I can hold a deep-seated hatred for straight couples?
After all, it was my confusion over which of them I wanted to date more that made me realize I was bi.
I shall tell you that my puberty hit early 2010s, you win a cookie if you can tell exactly which couple I'm referring to.

I can still get the cookie even if I don't know who you're referring to?
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Postby Silvedania » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:30 pm

Istoreya wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
I saw two men (and it is always men) kissing and it traumatized me for life since it made me gay. *nods

Does this mean I can hold a deep-seated hatred for straight couples?
After all, it was my confusion over which of them I wanted to date more that made me realize I was bi.
I shall tell you that my puberty hit early 2010s, you win a cookie if you can tell exactly which couple I'm referring to.

Celebrity couple?
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National Capitalist United States wrote:
Istoreya wrote:Does this mean I can hold a deep-seated hatred for straight couples?
After all, it was my confusion over which of them I wanted to date more that made me realize I was bi.
I shall tell you that my puberty hit early 2010s, you win a cookie if you can tell exactly which couple I'm referring to.

I can still get the cookie even if I don't know who you're referring to?

Eh. Sure, why not.
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No. Even if you do not like somebody's personality, you should never view them in a negative light due to their sexuality.
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Silvedania wrote:
Istoreya wrote:Does this mean I can hold a deep-seated hatred for straight couples?
After all, it was my confusion over which of them I wanted to date more that made me realize I was bi.
I shall tell you that my puberty hit early 2010s, you win a cookie if you can tell exactly which couple I'm referring to.

Celebrity couple?

TV show couple.

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Istoreya wrote:
National Capitalist United States wrote:I can still get the cookie even if I don't know who you're referring to?

Eh. Sure, why not.
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Neutraligon wrote:
Daarwyrth wrote:I always assumed he did it because he bore a deep-seated hatred towards himself for not being 100% straight, even though what he did was in a very hateful and harmful manner. It's why I pity him for doing it, because if he simply accepted himself he wouldn't need to harm others in such a way.


I was actually hoping to emphasise what you said with my experience, because when some people say "traumatic experiences with LGBTQ'ers" they literally mean stuff like you say xD


I saw two men (and it is always men) kissing and it traumatized me for life since it made me gay. *nods

As a kid I saw two men holding hands and it made me gay. Then I saw two cartoon characters kiss and I became straight again. This is why we should ban gay propaganda like they did in Russia, what if kids see two men or two women hold hands and they turn gay?! /S
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Istoreya wrote:
Silvedania wrote:Celebrity couple?

TV show couple.

I don't know. Can I have a cookie?
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Postby National Capitalist United States » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:34 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Daarwyrth wrote:I always assumed he did it because he bore a deep-seated hatred towards himself for not being 100% straight, even though what he did was in a very hateful and harmful manner. It's why I pity him for doing it, because if he simply accepted himself he wouldn't need to harm others in such a way.


I was actually hoping to emphasise what you said with my experience, because when some people say "traumatic experiences with LGBTQ'ers" they literally mean stuff like you say xD


I saw two men (and it is always men) kissing and it traumatized me for life since it made me gay. *nods

Having eye contact with a boy for 1 second in third grade made me bisexual *nods
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