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Poshyte wrote:"Can Homophobia be justified?"
Option 1: No
Option 2: No
Option 3: No
Option 4: No
Option 5: No

"Diversity is our Strength" well apparently not when it comes to opinions of Homophobia lol.

people should be able to have different options

Novokria wrote:

Poshyte wrote:"Can Homophobia be justified?"
Option 1: No
Option 2: No
Option 3: No
Option 4: No
Option 5: No

"Diversity is our Strength" well apparently not when it comes to opinions of Homophobia lol.

people should be able to have different options

You can be homophobic all you want, that does not mean that said homophobia is justified.

Novokria wrote:

Poshyte wrote:"Can Homophobia be justified?"
Option 1: No
Option 2: No
Option 3: No
Option 4: No
Option 5: No

"Diversity is our Strength" well apparently not when it comes to opinions of Homophobia lol.

people should be able to have different options

Not when your opinion leads to gay teenagers hanging themselves.

Punished UMN wrote:

Luziyca wrote:To paraphrase Comrade Enver Hoxha, "the entire party and country should hurl into the fire and break the neck of anyone who dares trample underfoot the sacred edict of the party on the defense of LGBT rights." Homophobia cannot, nor should it ever, be justified.

Enver Hoxha was against LGBT rights.

His quote re. women's rights though is one hell of a statement: I'd be remiss if I didn't adapt the quote for my own aims.

Caraani wrote:

Novokria wrote:"Diversity is our Strength" well apparently not when it comes to opinions of Homophobia lol.

people should be able to have different options

Not when your opinion leads to gay teenagers hanging themselves.

Well thats sad that people hang themselves but other people shouldn't be forced to have the same opinion as everyone else

Novokria wrote:

Poshyte wrote:"Can Homophobia be justified?"
Option 1: No
Option 2: No
Option 3: No
Option 4: No
Option 5: No

"Diversity is our Strength" well apparently not when it comes to opinions of Homophobia lol.

people should be able to have different options

Not when someone wants an option to lead to hatred, intolerance and discrimination. Even the freedom of speech and expression have their limits, and phobias, hatred and bigotry go lightyears beyond that boundary.

Luziyca wrote:

Punished UMN wrote:Enver Hoxha was against LGBT rights.

His quote re. women's rights though is one hell of a statement: I'd be remiss if I didn't adapt the quote for my own aims.

The I would have marked the adaptation in the quote and noted it as such. Otherwise it looks like you are misquoting or misrepresenting, whether intentionally or not.

Novokria wrote:

Caraani wrote:Not when your opinion leads to gay teenagers hanging themselves.

Well thats sad that people hang themselves but other people shouldn't be forced to have the same opinion as everyone else

When is respecting the innate and inherent human rights of other people an opinion?

Homophobia is never justified. You can't change being LGBTQ+, it's literally a part of who you are.

Novokria wrote:

Poshyte wrote:"Can Homophobia be justified?"
Option 1: No
Option 2: No
Option 3: No
Option 4: No
Option 5: No

"Diversity is our Strength" well apparently not when it comes to opinions of Homophobia lol.

people should be able to have different options

You are allowed to Express your opinion, just as I'm allowed to tell you that your opinion is shit since you've provided zero foundation to anything you've said.

Don't pretend you're somehow being 'silenced' because people don't accept your bullshit.

Novokria wrote:

Caraani wrote:Not when your opinion leads to gay teenagers hanging themselves.

Well thats sad that people hang themselves but other people shouldn't be forced to have the same opinion as everyone else

I thought Christianity was all about compassion and empathy. It seems to be lacking in your reply to young people hanging themselves because of hatred and homophobia, most often expressed by religion. Isn't that quite the paradox?

Novokria wrote:

Caraani wrote:Not when your opinion leads to gay teenagers hanging themselves.

Well thats sad that people hang themselves but other people shouldn't be forced to have the same opinion as everyone else

You can have your opinion and you can share it. We can think your opinion is shit and and we can share that. Free speech doesn't protect you from facing consequences when you talk out of your ass.

Novokria wrote:

Poshyte wrote:"Can Homophobia be justified?"
Option 1: No
Option 2: No
Option 3: No
Option 4: No
Option 5: No

"Diversity is our Strength" well apparently not when it comes to opinions of Homophobia lol.

people should be able to have different options

You've yet to provide ANY proof for why homophobia is okay. And you can trust me, considering I've been looking out for one. Here's what we've got so far:

So let me get this chain of logic here:

Why shouldn't we change the traditional definition of marriage? -> We shouldn't change God's definitions
Why shouldn't we change God's definitions? -> It would be an insult to God
Why shouldn't we insult God? -> We would incur his wrath
Why does God's wrath matter? -> ???

I've listed above the questions that have been asked to you, and the answers you have given. You haven't yet said why we should care about God's wrath.

And we all know the only good reason you could provide for that is God being real. I sincerely doubt you can prove the existence of God, the basis of your entire argument. I doubt you'll even try. So why bother making baseless claims?

Novokria wrote:

Caraani wrote:Not when your opinion leads to gay teenagers hanging themselves.

Well thats sad that people hang themselves but other people shouldn't be forced to have the same opinion as everyone else

Why should LGBT have less rights? You say your in favor of gay adoption yet you want parents of those children to be treated differently from others. Thats a violation of the 14th amendment.

Gongsi wrote:

Luziyca wrote:His quote re. women's rights though is one hell of a statement: I'd be remiss if I didn't adapt the quote for my own aims.

The I would have marked the adaptation in the quote and noted it as such. Otherwise it looks like you are misquoting or misrepresenting, whether intentionally or not.

Fair enough. I'll be sure to note that next time I quote mine people and edit quotes to ensure that I'm representing things correctly.

Novokria wrote:

Caraani wrote:Not when your opinion leads to gay teenagers hanging themselves.

Well thats sad that people hang themselves but other people shouldn't be forced to have the same opinion as everyone else

See you say it's sad but it's clear you don't care enough to stop the kind of behavior that leads to it.

Novokria wrote:

Poshyte wrote:"Can Homophobia be justified?"
Option 1: No
Option 2: No
Option 3: No
Option 4: No
Option 5: No

"Diversity is our Strength" well apparently not when it comes to opinions of Homophobia lol.

people should be able to have different options

sure
people should also be allowed yo say your opinions suck major ass

Daarwyrth wrote:

Novokria wrote:Well thats sad that people hang themselves but other people shouldn't be forced to have the same opinion as everyone else

I thought Christianity was all about compassion and empathy. It seems to be lacking in your reply to young people hanging themselves because of hatred and homophobia, most often expressed by religion. Isn't that the paradox?

It is about compassion i care about Homosexuals as much as the next person but we shouldn't force people to have the same opinion as us.

Novokria wrote:

Daarwyrth wrote:I thought Christianity was all about compassion and empathy. It seems to be lacking in your reply to young people hanging themselves because of hatred and homophobia, most often expressed by religion. Isn't that the paradox?

It is about compassion i care about Homosexuals as much as the next person but we shouldn't force people to have the same opinion as us.

Telling you that we think your opinion is a bad take is not the same as forcing you to share the opinion. Stick with your opinion for as long as you like, we will continue to call it shit for as long as we like.

Istoreya wrote:

Novokria wrote:Well thats sad that people hang themselves but other people shouldn't be forced to have the same opinion as everyone else

You can have your opinion and you can share it. We can think your opinion is shit and and we can share that. Free speech doesn't protect you from facing consequences when you talk out of your ass.

It's something that those expressing bigotry often forget. They think that saying "I have freedom of expression" means they can get away with saying anything without consequences. Nah uh, that isn't how freedom of expression works. You're free from persecution by the government for expressing your opinion, but it doesn't make you immune to disagreement or being called out on, on your bullshit.

Novokria wrote:

Daarwyrth wrote:I thought Christianity was all about compassion and empathy. It seems to be lacking in your reply to young people hanging themselves because of hatred and homophobia, most often expressed by religion. Isn't that the paradox?

It is about compassion i care about Homosexuals as much as the next person but we shouldn't force people to have the same opinion as us.

No you don't, and noone is forcing you to do anything,.
Stop with the pity party.

Novokria wrote:

Daarwyrth wrote:I thought Christianity was all about compassion and empathy. It seems to be lacking in your reply to young people hanging themselves because of hatred and homophobia, most often expressed by religion. Isn't that the paradox?

It is about compassion i care about Homosexuals as much as the next person but we shouldn't force people to have the same opinion as us.

I'm not forcing you to change your opinion. I'm just saying that your opinion is harmful.

Novokria wrote:

Daarwyrth wrote:I thought Christianity was all about compassion and empathy. It seems to be lacking in your reply to young people hanging themselves because of hatred and homophobia, most often expressed by religion. Isn't that the paradox?

It is about compassion i care about Homosexuals as much as the next person but we shouldn't force people to have the same opinion as us.

Nobody's forcing anybody. You're stating your opinion, we are stating ours. Then we all state our opinions about each other's opinions. No forcing, just dialogue.

Novokria wrote:

Daarwyrth wrote:I thought Christianity was all about compassion and empathy. It seems to be lacking in your reply to young people hanging themselves because of hatred and homophobia, most often expressed by religion. Isn't that the paradox?

It is about compassion i care about Homosexuals as much as the next person

you've pretty well proven you don't actually
you have preconceived notions that you are unwilling to engage in any sort of critical thinking toward when people ask questions of them
and those preconceived notions are the kind that have caused so many people to suffer

but we shouldn't force people to have the same opinion as us.

yes, which is why no one is saying "force" people to have x opinion
just as you have an opinion people can have an opinion about your opinion

Genivaria wrote:

Novokria wrote:It is about compassion i care about Homosexuals as much as the next person but we shouldn't force people to have the same opinion as us.

No you don't, and noone is forcing you to do anything,.
Stop with the pity party.

Well i do care about Homosexuals but just don't agree with it being over promoted

Novokria wrote:

Genivaria wrote:No you don't, and noone is forcing you to do anything,.
Stop with the pity party.

Well i do care about Homosexuals but just don't agree with it being over promoted

over promoted? What are you talking about? You dont care about them as you want them treated differently under the law.