Can Homophobia Be Justified?

[New Astri]

homophobia is always justified because being gay is immoral and wrong. not only is it disgusting, but there are consequences to being gay (example, there are a lot of std's you can get). also despite just being 2% of the population, gays are 50% of child molesters. the average gay man has at about 100 sexual partners per year. 92% of lesbian relationships end up being abusive. 56% of transgenders attempt suicide. if so much pride then why so much suicide? not only that, but generally gays are the most rotten and mean people you will ever meet. they get offended by literally anything and demand to be more privileged than you. if you dont fulfill one of their demands they go ape shit. so yes, homophobia is and will always be justified,

So much wrong with this...firstly, are you going to provide sources for even a single one of those ridiculous statistics, or are we expected to just take your very unbiased word for it?

How would you even measure those things? Is there some register somewhere that lists every single pedophile on the planet and somehow also knows every single one's sexuality? Who is determining that gay men have that much sex, and why is it even a problem if they have sex with 100 people in a year? Shouldn't we be saying "Good for them" ? Do you seriously expect us to believe that there's a count of every single lesbian relationship on the planet, and almost all of them are abusive? Do you really think that some agency somewhere is successfully counting every single transgender person on the planet, including the closeted ones, and then counting all of their suicides? Even in the event this were true, has it not occurred to you that maybe widespread transgender suicide rates are a result of transphobia making life miserable, and not of some problem that being trans causes?

Surely you know that nothing you're saying here makes sense. Surely you're just hoping to convince an ignorant person into becoming homophobic. Surely you don't actually believe this is a good argument?

[Daarwyrth]

gays are 50% of child molesters.

"Other researchers have taken different approaches, but have similarly failed to find a connection between homosexuality and child molestation. Dr. Carole Jenny and her colleagues reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult in fewer than 1% of cases in which an adult molester could be identified – only 2 of the 269 cases (Jenny et al., 1994)."

Reality is not on your side, honey.

[Nakena]

homophobia is always justified because being gay is immoral and wrong. not only is it disgusting, but there are consequences to being gay (example, there are a lot of std's you can get). also despite just being 2% of the population, gays are 50% of child molesters. the average gay man has at about 100 sexual partners per year. 92% of lesbian relationships end up being abusive. 56% of transgenders attempt suicide. if so much pride then why so much suicide? not only that, but generally gays are the most rotten and mean people you will ever meet. they get offended by literally anything and demand to be more privileged than you. if you dont fulfill one of their demands they go ape shit. so yes, homophobia is and will always be justified,

Ah, the Iron Gay-Club of the Archgay!

So much wrong with this...firstly, are you going to provide sources for even a single one of those ridiculous statistics, or are we expected to just take your very unbiased word for it?

Those are just the standard talking points you find on christian websites such as Rod Dreher's blog etc. In fact basically its a sum up of all of them combined and a few others added. The usual stuff.

By reacting the way you did, you're just doing what you are expected to do.

[Gongsi]

homophobia is always justified because being gay is immoral and wrong. not only is it disgusting, but there are consequences to being gay (example, there are a lot of std's you can get). also despite just being 2% of the population, gays are 50% of child molesters. the average gay man has at about 100 sexual partners per year. 92% of lesbian relationships end up being abusive. 56% of transgenders attempt suicide. if so much pride then why so much suicide? not only that, but generally gays are the most rotten and mean people you will ever meet. they get offended by literally anything and demand to be more privileged than you. if you dont fulfill one of their demands they go ape shit. so yes, homophobia is and will always be justified,

It sounds like someone might have fed you a bunch of lies and false information. Don't let other people mess with you like that, man. You can dislike it all you want, but don't let people put imaginary numbers and blatant falsehoods in your head.

[Major-Tom]

homophobia is always justified because being gay is immoral and wrong. not only is it disgusting, but there are consequences to being gay (example, there are a lot of std's you can get). also despite just being 2% of the population, gays are 50% of child molesters. the average gay man has at about 100 sexual partners per year. 92% of lesbian relationships end up being abusive. 56% of transgenders attempt suicide. if so much pride then why so much suicide? not only that, but generally gays are the most rotten and mean people you will ever meet. they get offended by literally anything and demand to be more privileged than you. if you dont fulfill one of their demands they go ape shit. so yes, homophobia is and will always be justified,

Ah, the Iron Gay-Club of the Archgay!

So much wrong with this...firstly, are you going to provide sources for even a single one of those ridiculous statistics, or are we expected to just take your very unbiased word for it?

Those are just the standard talking points you find on christian websites such as Rod Dreher's blog etc. In fact basically its a sum up of all of them combined and a few others added. Thats where he's gotten it from. All old talking points, all well known.

By reacting the way you did, you're just doing what you are expected to do.

Rod Dreher, forgot about that strange, sad sack.

[Caraani]

homophobia is always justified because being gay is immoral and wrong. not only is it disgusting, but there are consequences to being gay (example, there are a lot of std's you can get). also despite just being 2% of the population, gays are 50% of child molesters. the average gay man has at about 100 sexual partners per year. 92% of lesbian relationships end up being abusive. 56% of transgenders attempt suicide. if so much pride then why so much suicide? not only that, but generally gays are the most rotten and mean people you will ever meet. they get offended by literally anything and demand to be more privileged than you. if you dont fulfill one of their demands they go ape shit. so yes, homophobia is and will always be justified,

Nice troll post. Notice how it's the first and single post of this nation.

[Silvedania]

homophobia is always justified because being gay is immoral and wrong. not only is it disgusting, but there are consequences to being gay (example, there are a lot of std's you can get). also despite just being 2% of the population, gays are 50% of child molesters. the average gay man has at about 100 sexual partners per year. 92% of lesbian relationships end up being abusive. 56% of transgenders attempt suicide. if so much pride then why so much suicide? not only that, but generally gays are the most rotten and mean people you will ever meet. they get offended by literally anything and demand to be more privileged than you. if you dont fulfill one of their demands they go ape shit. so yes, homophobia is and will always be justified,

Sauce needed.

[Greater Mobile]

That part stuck out to me too lmaooo. I’m in a monogamous relationship now but damn - 100 per year? I don’t even know anyone who’s broken 10 in 5 years. The gays are down bad in my area I guess

100 new partners a year requires a lot of stamina, I'd imagine. Maybe they only surveyed guys with unbelievable cardiovascular endurance. Either that or its' silly crap. Probably that.

If gay men are 5% of the population of my state, and each one had 100 new sexual partners every year, that means that I have to fuck every gay man in my state at least once every few years. Needless to say, I’m pretty far behind my quota.

[National Capitalist United States]

What I have a problem with, is this culture of sexual deviancy, and your sex life being shoved in our faces and being constantly promoted, and the attempt to pervert and destroy national traditions.

Where exactly do you feel its being shoved into a face and be promoted? In mainstream media?

Gay men kissing in films is literally the fall of the western civilization

/s

[Gongsi]

homophobia is always justified because being gay is immoral and wrong. not only is it disgusting, but there are consequences to being gay (example, there are a lot of std's you can get). also despite just being 2% of the population, gays are 50% of child molesters. the average gay man has at about 100 sexual partners per year. 92% of lesbian relationships end up being abusive. 56% of transgenders attempt suicide. if so much pride then why so much suicide? not only that, but generally gays are the most rotten and mean people you will ever meet. they get offended by literally anything and demand to be more privileged than you. if you dont fulfill one of their demands they go ape shit. so yes, homophobia is and will always be justified,

Nice troll post. Notice how it's the first and single post of this nation.

Ah, it seems I have been baited. Don't I seem the fool now!

[National Capitalist United States]

homophobia is always justified because being gay is immoral and wrong. not only is it disgusting, but there are consequences to being gay (example, there are a lot of std's you can get). also despite just being 2% of the population, gays are 50% of child molesters. the average gay man has at about 100 sexual partners per year. 92% of lesbian relationships end up being abusive. 56% of transgenders attempt suicide. if so much pride then why so much suicide? not only that, but generally gays are the most rotten and mean people you will ever meet. they get offended by literally anything and demand to be more privileged than you. if you dont fulfill one of their demands they go ape shit. so yes, homophobia is and will always be justified,

/pol/ is that way sir ---->

[Nakena]

Where exactly do you feel its being shoved into a face and be promoted? In mainstream media?

Gay men kissing in films is literally the fall of the western civilization

/s

Daily reminder that gay sex was institutionalized amongst greek hoplites and phalanx.

[Loeje]

There absolutely are degrees to it. I see a difference between people who seem to want someone like me to burn in hell and the ones who believe that it is possible and don't want it to happen. Both aren't perfect, but the second is a lot better.

We’ll have to agree to disagree. In my opinion, if someone believes that I deserve to be set on fire for eternity, they are a horrible person

Some people just never learned anything else.

[Greater Mobile]

Where exactly do you feel its being shoved into a face and be promoted? In mainstream media?

Gay men kissing in films is literally the fall of the western civilization

/s

I unironically wish this was true. I wish we were the civilization destroying monsters that those people think we are

[San Lumen]

Gay men kissing in films is literally the fall of the western civilization

/s

Daily reminder that gay sex was institutionalized amongst greek hoplites and phalanx.

It was also very common in Viking culture as well.

[Tundra Terra]

Daar: Then we are agreed on the "Live and Let Live" principle which makes certain conservatives and leftists the main issue to deal with.

Not trying to be overtly contentious here, but this entire paragraph is just nonsensical faux intellectualism. The history of Sparta and Athens (Both of which by the way were very open to sexual acts among males) has absolutely nothing to do with the debate as to whether or not gay people should be treated as free and equal individuals in our society.

In your analogy, gay people are not the “outsiders” and “enemies” in Athens. They are Athenians.

On the contrary the analogy fits very well and you slid off course to something else. The analogy was one of xenophobia vs xenophilia and our very thread is over Homophobia vs Homophilia. Do you reject or accept this particular situation or law? Now as you said both greek states were open to gays. This debate so far to me has devolved into a human rights debate rather than one of cultural compatibility.

[Caraani]

Daar: Then we are agreed on the "Live and Let Live" principle which makes certain conservatives and leftists the main issue to deal with.

Not trying to be overtly contentious here, but this entire paragraph is just nonsensical faux intellectualism. The history of Sparta and Athens (Both of which by the way were very open to sexual acts among males) has absolutely nothing to do with the debate as to whether or not gay people should be treated as free and equal individuals in our society.

In your analogy, gay people are not the “outsiders” and “enemies” in Athens. They are Athenians.

On the contrary the analogy fits very well and you slid off course to something else. The analogy was one of xenophobia vs xenophilia and our very thread is over Homophobia vs Homophilia. Do you reject or accept this particular situation or law? Now as you said both greek states were open to gays. This debate so far to me has devolved into a human rights debate rather than one of cultural compatibility.

The local pseudo-historian is back. Tell us the one about how Aliens built the Pyramids in Indonesia, Egypt and Mexico!

[Gongsi]

We’ll have to agree to disagree. In my opinion, if someone believes that I deserve to be set on fire for eternity, they are a horrible person

Some people just never learned anything else.

Not to mention people who are actually able to change their minds. I mean, just in this thread alone in the past 24 hours I have (coupled with research and introflection) come to the conclusion that homosexuality is not a sin in accordance with the Bible and the teachings of Christ. Not everyone is willing to die on the hill on which they stand.

[Goatmoon]

But not all LGBTQIA+ people are hypersexual, just some of them. Maybe you shouldn't look down on all gay people because not all of them are what is bothering you. Generalization leads to stereotypes, which leads to hate.

Who said I "look down on all gay people"? I never said that, now you're just making shit up. There's musicians that I listen to and historical figures that I admire that happen to be gay.

[New Astri]

But not all LGBTQIA+ people are hypersexual, just some of them. Maybe you shouldn't look down on all gay people because not all of them are what is bothering you. Generalization leads to stereotypes, which leads to hate.

Who said I "look down on all gay people"? I never said that, now you're just making shit up. There's musicians that I listen to and historical figures that I admire that happen to be gay.

"There's musicians that I listen to and historical figures that I admire that happen to be gay," AKA "I can't possibly be homophobic!!! I have a gay friend!!!"

You never said that, yeah, but man...this is still a ridiculous response.

[United Capitalist Communist States]

homophobia is always justified because being gay is immoral and wrong. not only is it disgusting, but there are consequences to being gay (example, there are a lot of std's you can get). also despite just being 2% of the population, gays are 50% of child molesters. the average gay man has at about 100 sexual partners per year. 92% of lesbian relationships end up being abusive. 56% of transgenders attempt suicide. if so much pride then why so much suicide? not only that, but generally gays are the most rotten and mean people you will ever meet. they get offended by literally anything and demand to be more privileged than you. if you dont fulfill one of their demands they go ape shit. so yes, homophobia is and will always be justified,

Jesus no info just opinion and conspiracy theories before you go batshit next time research.

[Greater Mobile]

Daar: Then we are agreed on the "Live and Let Live" principle which makes certain conservatives and leftists the main issue to deal with.

Not trying to be overtly contentious here, but this entire paragraph is just nonsensical faux intellectualism. The history of Sparta and Athens (Both of which by the way were very open to sexual acts among males) has absolutely nothing to do with the debate as to whether or not gay people should be treated as free and equal individuals in our society.

In your analogy, gay people are not the “outsiders” and “enemies” in Athens. They are Athenians.

On the contrary the analogy fits very well and you slid off course to something else. The analogy was one of xenophobia vs xenophilia and our very thread is over Homophobia vs Homophilia. Do you reject or accept this particular situation or law? Now as you said both greek states were open to gays. This debate so far to me has devolved into a human rights debate rather than one of cultural compatibility.

That’s the flaw in your analogy, though - gay people are not outsiders. We are not “xenos”, so the xenophobia analogy simply does not work.

Speaking on my own country: Gay people are as American as apple pie. Gay people have been woven into the fabric of every human culture and civilization that has ever existed, even if they were treated with oppression. Gay people have always existed, and will always exist. Your analogy attempts to separate gay people from society, which is not accurate.

And “cultural comparability” is an asinine metric. According to people in the American South in 1850, black people were not “culturally compatible” with the South. Does this mean that it was therefore moral to force black people into squalid conditions just to separate them from white society? Whether or not you believe a person who is unlike you is “compatible” with your culture does not change the fact that they are your equal, and deserve to be treated as such.

[Loeje]

Some people just never learned anything else.

Not to mention people who are actually able to change their minds. I mean, just in this thread alone in the past 24 hours I have (coupled with research and introflection) come to the conclusion that homosexuality is not a sin in accordance with the Bible and the teachings of Christ. Not everyone is willing to die on the hill on which they stand.

That's good!

But yes, people change their minds. And I think that will happen more when people actually talk to each other.

[San Lumen]

homophobia is always justified because being gay is immoral and wrong. not only is it disgusting, but there are consequences to being gay (example, there are a lot of std's you can get). also despite just being 2% of the population, gays are 50% of child molesters. the average gay man has at about 100 sexual partners per year. 92% of lesbian relationships end up being abusive. 56% of transgenders attempt suicide. if so much pride then why so much suicide? not only that, but generally gays are the most rotten and mean people you will ever meet. they get offended by literally anything and demand to be more privileged than you. if you dont fulfill one of their demands they go ape shit. so yes, homophobia is and will always be justified,

Utter rubbish. There is no truth to anything you said.

[Istoreya]

But not all LGBTQIA+ people are hypersexual, just some of them. Maybe you shouldn't look down on all gay people because not all of them are what is bothering you. Generalization leads to stereotypes, which leads to hate.

Who said I "look down on all gay people"? I never said that, now you're just making shit up. There's musicians that I listen to and historical figures that I admire that happen to be gay.

You didn't say that, however you did say that most gay people are the kind to shove their sexuality in your face which is simply untrue unless you believe holding hands is shoving sexuality in your face.