Can Homophobia Be Justified?

[Daarwyrth]

People with horrific opinions in regards to gay people absolutely should be demonised, or at least called out for how horrific their opinion is.

Well they can be called out but they shouldn't be demonized and compared to killers

Okay so, if you keep saying that a specific group of a society is worse because your deity says so, keep spreading the idea that they are lesser, sinful or even abominations, when you keep pressing upon the idea that they don't deserve the same rights as other members of society, and then someone acts upon those ideas and kills a member of that minority, that doesn't make you indirectly responsible for their death?

I used the "you" tense here, but when I say "you" I speak of religion in general.

[Senkaku]

People with horrific opinions in regards to gay people absolutely should be demonised, or at least called out for how horrific their opinion is.

Well they can be called out but they shouldn't be demonized and compared to killers

God can we stop w this bloody shirt bullshit lol

The victims are the LGBT people being abused and murdered around the world, not the people cheering on their abuse and murder who might feel like they’re being cancelled for doing so

[The New California Republic]

Earlier he said that coronavirus is God's punishment for gay marriage, so I've got my homophobia bingo card out to play. Almost got a line.

Emphasis mine. WTF?

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[Necroghastia]

People with horrific opinions in regards to gay people absolutely should be demonised, or at least called out for how horrific their opinion is.

Well they can be called out but they shouldn't be demonized and compared to killers

You basically did just that when you implied gay people caused covid, y'know

[Novokria]

Well they can be called out but they shouldn't be demonized and compared to killers

Except if the opinion leads to suicides.

If they actually harass a homosexual and it ends in suicide that makes the person a killer but if they don't they are not a killer

[Istoreya]

Earlier he said that coronavirus is God's punishment for gay marriage, so I've got my homophobia bingo card out to play. Almost got a line.

Emphasis mine. WTF?

Oh he literally did.
He said that we should not change the "definition" of marriage (he also wants to ban marriage for infertile straight couples because his definition is all about the baby factories') and when people said God wouldn't care his response was "God obviously cares because he gave us Coronavirus"

[Necroghastia]

Except if the opinion leads to suicides.

If they actually harass a homosexual and it ends in suicide that makes the person a killer but if they don't they are not a killer

Do you honestly not see how your opinions negatively affect LGBT people?

[Novokria]

Well they can be called out but they shouldn't be demonized and compared to killers

You basically did just that when you implied gay people caused covid, y'know

That was government officials who made gay marriage legal

[Neutraligon]

Except if the opinion leads to suicides.

If they actually harass a homosexual and it ends in suicide that makes the person a killer but if they don't they are not a killer

Somehow I think your definition of harassment and mine in this case is different. Especially with that virus thing.

[Daarwyrth]

Except if the opinion leads to suicides.

If they actually harass a homosexual and it ends in suicide that makes the person a killer but if they don't they are not a killer

If they keep saying "you're living in sin", "you're sinful", "God will punish you for your sin", "you are an abomination", "you deserve to burn in hell" then that, indeed, is harassment. And if those comments lead to someone's suicide, then the people who uttered those phrases are killers.

[Novokria]

If they actually harass a homosexual and it ends in suicide that makes the person a killer but if they don't they are not a killer

Do you honestly not see how your opinions negatively affect LGBT people?

I'm against gay marriage not against gay people

[San Lumen]

Except if the opinion leads to suicides.

If they actually harass a homosexual and it ends in suicide that makes the person a killer but if they don't they are not a killer

Those people shouldnt be held responsible? Is that what your suggesting? You still haven't answered why they should be treated differently under the law and have less rights than you.

[Neutraligon]

Do you honestly not see how your opinions negatively affect LGBT people?

I'm against gay marriage not against gay people

Being against gay marriage is being against gay people since marriage is a secular institution. I notice you are not trying to justify your opinion, just stating what your opinion is.

[Daarwyrth]

You basically did just that when you implied gay people caused covid, y'know

That was government officials who made gay marriage legal

And where is the punishment for the abuse of children by priests and clergyman? Is that abuse OK in the eyes of the divine? Because if so, their priorities need to be adjusted.

[Zul-ar]

You basically did just that when you implied gay people caused covid, y'know

That was government officials who made gay marriage legal

You still haven't proved your God had anything to do with that, or why we should care what an old book of myths says about homosexuality. I'm starting to believe you have no legs to stand on here.

[Major-Tom]

You basically did just that when you implied gay people caused covid, y'know

That was government officials who made gay marriage legal

C'mon, not sure what sort of discourse is running amok in Ukraine regarding gay folks, but whatever it is, it doesn't appear to be right.

[Rhodesae]

Yes, i.e. traumatic experiences with LGBTQ.

But the bad experience(s) you had with an LGBTQ member(s) doesn't mean that you should disrespect the whole community. Same thing applies for any other group of people.

[Crylante]

Can I just say as a gay person that I find it really disgusting that people consider this a topic really debating?

If you think homophobia can be justified in any instance, then you are objectively a homophobe.

[Stellar Colonies]

Some people reference the higher suicide rates for gay and trans people as reasons for why they are """mentally ill""", but they either ignore or don't realize that its cause is societal instead of mental, like with other groups whom have higher suicide rates.

[Esalia]

Do you honestly not see how your opinions negatively affect LGBT people?

I'm against gay marriage not against gay people

You've just confirmed that your opinions negatively affect LGBT people.

[Neutraligon]

Yes, i.e. traumatic experiences with LGBTQ.

But the bad experience(s) you had with an LGBTQ member(s) doesn't mean that you should disrespect the whole community. Same thing applies for any other group of people.

I wonder if those people who claim they where traumatized by homosexuals coming on to them (and yes some homosexuals take things too far) feel the same way considering women have to put up with it pretty commonly. Hell there is an entire movement around it.

[Stellar Colonies]

Do you honestly not see how your opinions negatively affect LGBT people?

I'm against gay marriage not against gay people

"I'm against Christians going to church but I'm not against Christians"

[Daarwyrth]

Yes, i.e. traumatic experiences with LGBTQ.

But the bad experience(s) you had with an LGBTQ member(s) doesn't mean that you should disrespect the whole community. Same thing applies for any other group of people.

I had traumatic experiences with straight men. Does that make me hate all straight men or disrespect them? No, it doesn't.

[Istoreya]

Can I just say as a gay person that I find it really disgusting that people consider this a topic really debating?

If you think homophobia can be justified in any instance, then you are objectively a homophobe.

Homophobia can be justified in the sense that homophobes will justify it with reasons. That part is a fact. But most of the time, the reasons are stupid and wrong. So.

[The Reformed American Republic]

Emphasis mine. WTF?

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I believed you. I'm just saying its a nutty position to have to say the least.