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by Great Pacific Switzerland » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:38 am
by Nekostan-e Gharbi » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:39 am
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
You aren’t a refugee when you get a US or Canadian citizenship.
Okay so if I speak Jap am I instantly a Jap? No, your logic doesn't make sense. Plus not everyone is gonna accept mass immigrants of Palnsetians due to Israelis kicked out the Palestinians from their nation, neo-colonianism here
by Washington Resistance Army » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:40 am
by Great Pacific Switzerland » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:43 am
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Okay so if I speak Jap am I instantly a Jap? No, your logic doesn't make sense. Plus not everyone is gonna accept mass immigrants of Palnsetians due to Israelis kicked out the Palestinians from their nation, neo-colonianism here
Enough New World countries will. Even if we disregard the fact that Arabs are white no matter how much WNs deny that there are plenty of New World countries with Arabs often in the upper class: Brazil and Mexico are just two examples. Allow unlimited Palestinian and Israeli Arab immigration. It will be fine for both them and the host societies.
by Nekostan-e Gharbi » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:43 am
by Nekostan-e Gharbi » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:45 am
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Enough New World countries will. Even if we disregard the fact that Arabs are white no matter how much WNs deny that there are plenty of New World countries with Arabs often in the upper class: Brazil and Mexico are just two examples. Allow unlimited Palestinian and Israeli Arab immigration. It will be fine for both them and the host societies.
Pretty sure a travel from Palestine to America is gonna be a very costly trip compared to emigrating to Europe. Besides that, Palestinians should not be kicked out of their own nation. Its their nation and they can stay and develop it. It is never justified for Israeli imperialism to kill of Arabic peoples and take their land
by Punished UMN » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:45 am
by Punished UMN » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:46 am
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Pretty sure a travel from Palestine to America is gonna be a very costly trip compared to emigrating to Europe. Besides that, Palestinians should not be kicked out of their own nation. Its their nation and they can stay and develop it. It is never justified for Israeli imperialism to kill of Arabic peoples and take their land
Israel needs to pay for the trips and maybe even land twice as large as Mandatory Palestine in the New World to distribute to Palestinians and settle this issue once and for all.
by Nekostan-e Gharbi » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:48 am
Punished UMN wrote:Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Israel needs to pay for the trips and maybe even land twice as large as Mandatory Palestine in the New World to distribute to Palestinians and settle this issue once and for all.
So your solution is for Israel to pony up hundreds of billions of dollars for a group of people it has thus far refused to lift a finger to help in any way?
by Punished UMN » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:49 am
by Great Pacific Switzerland » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:50 am
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Pretty sure a travel from Palestine to America is gonna be a very costly trip compared to emigrating to Europe. Besides that, Palestinians should not be kicked out of their own nation. Its their nation and they can stay and develop it. It is never justified for Israeli imperialism to kill of Arabic peoples and take their land
Israel needs to pay for the trips and maybe even land twice as large as Mandatory Palestine in the New World to distribute to Palestinians and settle this issue once and for all.
The land belonged to Jewish people during Hasmonean times so they do have a legit claim.
by Jarvikan » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:00 am
Punished UMN wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
While I agree with you that Israeli settlements have to stop and be reversed where possible, we are flying pretty close to ethnic cleansing territory with the German example.
Both Turks in the deportation segment of the genocide and Armenians in Artsakh cited internal security when they were expelling entire settlements.
Not that I would say that Israeli settlements are equivalent to Armenians in Anatolia or Azeris in Nagorno Karabakh, of course.
I don't think we are, in the German example, as in the Israeli example, the settlements are recent, and were created under armed force by a foreign power on the territory of another power. If we accept that as simple migration, then we would have to concede that armed invasions and population transfer are legitimate forms of immigration which states have no recourse to deal with under international law, which is absurd.
by Punished UMN » Tue Feb 23, 2021 2:04 am
Jarvikan wrote:Punished UMN wrote:I don't think we are, in the German example, as in the Israeli example, the settlements are recent, and were created under armed force by a foreign power on the territory of another power. If we accept that as simple migration, then we would have to concede that armed invasions and population transfer are legitimate forms of immigration which states have no recourse to deal with under international law, which is absurd.
As you seem to think that Palestine has a good claim to the land,let me tell you something.
Imagine this.You are a Jewish man from...let’s say Hungary.You have barely survived the holocaust,and now your country is now communist.The British have just created Israel.You know that your ancestors were expelled from Israel many years ago,and now a Jewish state has been created.This is where your ancestors lived.Of course,you know the Arabs will be angry with their claims on the land 2000 years late,but you are sure the two of you can now live in harmony.Fast forward to 1948.The Arab-Israeli war is now over.You don’t understand why the Arabs didn’t want to live in peace.
This is how nearly every war in the Middle East starts.The Jews want peace,the Arabs don’t!Israel has always offered a two state solution,but the Palestinians have always rejected,stating of how the West Bank has always been Muslim.They even made Bill Clinton throw a fit!
by The Remote Islands » Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:07 am
Mike the Progressive wrote:Usually when I do a hit of acid or coke, I avoid NS. But you didn't. Shows a lot of balls. I like that.
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:20 am
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:37 am
Punished UMN wrote:I've already shown quotes from Israel's founder and first head of state showing the intention was never to live in peace with the Arabs.
by Dowaesk » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:13 am
by Dowaesk » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:14 am
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:24 am
Dowaesk wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Everything tbh. Jews being given 50% of the land when they weren't half the population and the borders being meme tier was always going to cause an immediate war.
It was actually more than 50%.A slightly more than 50%.
And yes. Giving more than 50% to a community that didint even make 50% of the population was unfair.
by Cultural Posadism » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:26 am
by Cultural Posadism » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:26 am
Punished UMN wrote:Also, does anyone remember the time Israel helped Apartheid South Africa obtain nuclear weapons?
by Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Tue Feb 23, 2021 5:40 am
by Great Pacific Switzerland » Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:04 am
Pope Saint Peter the Apostle wrote:Cultural Posadism wrote:Apartheid states stick together.
Or, rather, the silent alliance between South Africa and many Western states, including Israel, was geopolitically manufactured by the OPEC in attempt to create a gap between Israel and African states. But I suppose that doesn't fit your narrative.
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