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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:39 am

Novokria wrote:
Alien Overlord wrote:That's because America is a democratic nation that regularly defends other democratic nations. It's a great country that fights for righteous values. Also nothing against you personally, but just a gentle warning that you probably should be more careful with the divisive insults, you literally just got over a three day ban.

America literary sould out the Kurds to Turkey and thats why the Americans were leaving Syria and the Kurds were throwing stones at them America is just in it for the Oil.


We literally get most of our oil from either domestic sources or from Canada lol
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Alien Overlord wrote:
Novokria wrote:Well you seem really defensive of the Americans and Devil worshippers

That's because America is a democratic nation that regularly defends other democratic nations. It's a great country that fights for righteous values. Also nothing against you personally, but just a gentle warning that you probably should be more careful with the divisive insults, you literally just got over a three day ban.

That's a very loaded statement. Kuwait ain't democratic, Pavlevi Iran ain't democratic, god knows South Vietnam isn't democratic by any definition.

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Postby Novokria » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:40 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Novokria wrote:America literary sould out the Kurds to Turkey and thats why the Americans were leaving Syria and the Kurds were throwing stones at them America is just in it for the Oil.


We literally get most of our oil from either domestic sources or from Canada lol

You start wars to steal it from the middle east
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Postby Nakena » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:41 am

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We literally get most of our oil from either domestic sources or from Canada lol

You start wars to steal it from the middle east


How old were you when the Iraq war happened in 2003?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:42 am

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
We literally get most of our oil from either domestic sources or from Canada lol

You start wars to steal it from the middle east


If that were true we'd invade the Gulf States and Saudi Arabia. Syria has less than a hundredth the oil reserves Saudi Arabia does, it's uneducated fantasy to claim the only reason we were in Syria was for fossil fuels.
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Postby Alien Overlord » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:44 am

Novokria wrote:
Alien Overlord wrote:That's because America is a democratic nation that regularly defends other democratic nations. It's a great country that fights for righteous values. Also nothing against you personally, but just a gentle warning that you probably should be more careful with the divisive insults, you literally just got over a three day ban.

America literary sould out the Kurds to Turkey and thats why the Americans were leaving Syria and the Kurds were throwing stones at them America is just in it for the Oil.

I fail to see your point. Why do you think Russia, China, Europe and basically any nation with influence is bothering with the Middle East if not for Oil? The difference is that America generally leaves a place better than it finds it, whereas nations like Russia and China like to exploit it maximally at the cost of the citizenry. Besides as others have said, the US has plenty of other sources for oil.

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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
We literally get most of our oil from either domestic sources or from Canada lol

You start wars to steal it from the middle east


Wrong, the United States doesn't start wars in the Middle East, they are generally began by either Iran or Saudi Arabia in their ongoing Cold War, or Russian involvement.
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Alien Overlord wrote:You mean the proles living in tribes right? The ones who were also brainwashed 1984 style?

Yup, who else? Workers? Ha, as if we need them in our anarcho-primitivist-orwellian utopia dystopia federation.

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Postby Novokria » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:45 am

Nakena wrote:
Novokria wrote:You start wars to steal it from the middle east


How old were you when the Iraq war happened in 2003?

2 so are you gonna try and say i can't know anything about it because i wasn't grown up then? because no of us was around during the holocaust yet we know about the holocaust.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:47 am

Novokria wrote:
Nakena wrote:
How old were you when the Iraq war happened in 2003?

2 so are you gonna try and say i can't know anything about it because i wasn't grown up then? because no of us was around during the holocaust yet we know about the holocaust.


I remember it and it was pretty bad in a hindsight. Which being said, I have the feeling you are very young and have not yet a lot of knowledge of how the world works.
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Postby Alien Overlord » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:55 am

Hohenzollern Russia wrote:
Alien Overlord wrote:That's because America is a democratic nation that regularly defends other democratic nations. It's a great country that fights for righteous values. Also nothing against you personally, but just a gentle warning that you probably should be more careful with the divisive insults, you literally just got over a three day ban.

That's a very loaded statement. Kuwait ain't democratic, Pavlevi Iran ain't democratic, god knows South Vietnam isn't democratic by any definition.

Not to get off topic but i'd like to point out that South Vietnam was smothered in the cradle before it really had a chance to develop it's democratic system. We can see the exact same thing in South Korea, where is took some decades for it to evolve into a functional democracy. I fully believe that if we had supported South Vietnam and gone back in after the North broke the Paris Peace Accords, South Vietnam may have become one of the most prosperous nations in Southeast Asia today, instead of being shackled to the North and it's corrupt government.
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Banning cars will lead to a clusterfuck of mininations everywhere and attempting to mash two Eras together miserably and 1984 style dictatorships


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Ayissor wrote:
Alien Overlord wrote:You mean the proles living in tribes right? The ones who were also brainwashed 1984 style?

Yup, who else? Workers? Ha, as if we need them in our anarcho-primitivist-orwellian utopia dystopia federation.

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Postby Hohenzollern Russia » Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:05 am

Alien Overlord wrote:
Hohenzollern Russia wrote:That's a very loaded statement. Kuwait ain't democratic, Pavlevi Iran ain't democratic, god knows South Vietnam isn't democratic by any definition.

Not to get off topic but i'd like to point out that South Vietnam was smothered in the cradle before it really had a chance to develop it's democratic system. We can see the exact same thing in South Korea, where is took some decades for it to evolve into a functional democracy. I fully believe that if we had supported South Vietnam and gone back in after the North broke the Paris Peace Accords, South Vietnam may have become one of the most prosperous nations in Southeast Asia today, instead of being shackled to the North and it's corrupt government.

That's wishful thinking based on nothing but assumptions. But even if that's somehow the case and South Vietnam would inevitably be a democratic state, we're discussing reality, and the reality is U.S government defended on a very dubious claim a radically repressive authoritarian military government, same one it supported in Thailand and Indonesia during the time.

Also it's fine it's the thread got derailed to Satan worshipping for some reason.
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Postby Jarvikan » Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:10 am

Nakena wrote:Sank the USS Liberty. In case you don't know about what happened: This is an indepth documentary about the incident where israeli attacks sank an US Navy ship.


The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two marines, and one civilian NSA employee), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship. At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish

The Liberty was telling Egyptians radio signals from Israeli troops.

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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Feb 24, 2021 5:52 am

Novokria wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Respond to my telegram. Do you even know what satanism is? *points at your sig*

Ik you Americans worship the Devil and drink the blood of people you have Sacrificed mainly Ukrainians and Kurds.


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Everyone else, stop encouraging him.
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Postby Dowaesk » Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:39 am

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Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Riddle me this zionists, what was wrong with this plan here?

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The Arabs rejected it.

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
There was indeed an Arab Palestine and it is known as “Transjordan”.


Gaza and Jordan being the two Palestinian states that already exist. The Palestinians can move there.


Oh God. This guy's prolly a 5yr old.
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Postby Silvedania » Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:56 am

Dowaesk wrote:
Glorious Hong Kong wrote:
The Arabs rejected it.



Gaza and Jordan being the two Palestinian states that already exist. The Palestinians can move there.


Oh God. This guy's prolly a 5yr old.

Not possible, since to be on the forum you must be 13.
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Postby Hohenzollern Russia » Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:05 am

Silvedania wrote:
Dowaesk wrote:
Oh God. This guy's prolly a 5yr old.

Not possible, since to be on the forum you must be 13.

If the British can lie to the Arabs 5 year olds can lie to an internet forum

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Postby Southern Xenick » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:06 am

Alien Overlord wrote:
Novokria wrote:America literary sould out the Kurds to Turkey and thats why the Americans were leaving Syria and the Kurds were throwing stones at them America is just in it for the Oil.

I fail to see your point. Why do you think Russia, China, Europe and basically any nation with influence is bothering with the Middle East if not for Oil? The difference is that America generally leaves a place better than it finds it, whereas nations like Russia and China like to exploit it maximally at the cost of the citizenry. Besides as others have said, the US has plenty of other sources for oil.

Novokria wrote:You start wars to steal it from the middle east


Wrong, the United States doesn't start wars in the Middle East, they are generally began by either Iran or Saudi Arabia in their ongoing Cold War, or Russian involvement.

America has not left the middle east a better place than we found it. Constant illegal intervention and decades of war has left millions in the middle east dead and countries destabilized because of the US.
"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
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Postby ImperialRussia » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:13 am

Increase America’s defense budget

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Postby Picairn » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:15 am

Alien Overlord wrote:Not to get off topic but i'd like to point out that South Vietnam was smothered in the cradle before it really had a chance to develop it's democratic system. We can see the exact same thing in South Korea, where is took some decades for it to evolve into a functional democracy. I fully believe that if we had supported South Vietnam and gone back in after the North broke the Paris Peace Accords, South Vietnam may have become one of the most prosperous nations in Southeast Asia today, instead of being shackled to the North and it's corrupt government.

That's a blatant lie. The Vietnamese had separated themselves before the North-South debacle and it wasn't pretty. Basically two states fought for control of Vietnam for more than a century and weakened themselves so much they both fell to a popular revolt.

If there is anything the Vietnamese refuse to compromise on, it's independence and unity. Even if South Vietnam had somehow survived the onslaught of the North after the Paris Peace Accords with a returned US, it would have never achieved true peace. It would have become another corrupt Afghanistan slowly collapsing and dependent on US aid.

The Vietnamese ain't the Koreans. Sell them vain "prosperity" in exchange for eternal separation and foreign domination is a surefire way of getting yourself kicked out.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:15 am

Dowaesk wrote:
Glorious Hong Kong wrote:
The Arabs rejected it.



Gaza and Jordan being the two Palestinian states that already exist. The Palestinians can move there.


Oh God. This guy's prolly a 5yr old.



Knock it off; attack the argument, not the poster.

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Postby Southern Xenick » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:19 am

ImperialRussia wrote:Increase America’s defense budget

It's already too big, the only thing its doing is blowing up the middle east when we could be spending it on more helpful things like education, healthcare, and things the average civilian uses.
"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
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Postby Socialist States of Ludistan » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:19 am

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Postby Southern Xenick » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:22 am

Socialist States of Ludistan wrote:Thanks for your service, Arch.

Yes, with that novokoria guy going around a bunch of people have had t say it
"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
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Postby Southern Xenick » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:31 am

Alien Overlord wrote:
Novokria wrote:Well you seem really defensive of the Americans and Devil worshippers

That's because America is a democratic nation that regularly defends other democratic nations. It's a great country that fights for righteous values. Also nothing against you personally, but just a gentle warning that you probably should be more careful with the divisive insults, you literally just got over a three day ban.

See the US is a nice country to live in, its democratic, and its got burgers. But what the US does during war is anything but righteousness because we simply wont stop getting involved in foreign wars, and constantly escalate them and raise the human toll. Pretty much all countries we invade end up worse off, or almost just as bad.
"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:06 am

Southern Xenick wrote:
ImperialRussia wrote:Increase America’s defense budget

It's already too big, the only thing its doing is blowing up the middle east when we could be spending it on more helpful things like education, healthcare, and things the average civilian uses.

Pentagon's budget is so bloated because just like Texas' energy budget at least half of it goes to capitalist grift.

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Postby Hohenzollern Russia » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:24 am

Picairn wrote:
Alien Overlord wrote:Not to get off topic but i'd like to point out that South Vietnam was smothered in the cradle before it really had a chance to develop it's democratic system. We can see the exact same thing in South Korea, where is took some decades for it to evolve into a functional democracy. I fully believe that if we had supported South Vietnam and gone back in after the North broke the Paris Peace Accords, South Vietnam may have become one of the most prosperous nations in Southeast Asia today, instead of being shackled to the North and it's corrupt government.

That's a blatant lie. The Vietnamese had separated themselves before the North-South debacle and it wasn't pretty. Basically two states fought for control of Vietnam for more than a century and weakened themselves so much they both fell to a popular revolt.

If there is anything the Vietnamese refuse to compromise on, it's independence and unity. Even if South Vietnam had somehow survived the onslaught of the North after the Paris Peace Accords with a returned US, it would have never achieved true peace. It would have become another corrupt Afghanistan slowly collapsing and dependent on US aid.

The Vietnamese ain't the Koreans. Sell them vain "prosperity" in exchange for eternal separation and foreign domination is a surefire way of getting yourself kicked out.


Have to disagree with you. Nobody get "sold" eternal separation, US are always enthusiastic about reunification under its aligned state, and states like West Germany, South Korea and Taiwan are officially always committed to unification. It's just that Korea learned from Germany that the reunification process are especially difficult (not that Seoul ever got a parallels of Berlin Wall like Pyongyang destroying the DMZ), and it's just common sense to know that Taiwan would be dominated by the mainland even IF they reunify on Taiwan's term. They distance themselves on their own for their own interest, not because the western power demanded it.

Well either way, this should be about Israel, not analysis of cold-war state construct.

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