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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:28 pm

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Fahran wrote:I mean... that's pretty Zionist already. What would you do differently at present?

Put it in Missouri

The main problem with these relocations is that no motherfucker wants it. And if I have to point out yet again that the "Jewish" "Autonomous" Oblast is a frozen wasteland whose primary claim to infrastructure upon its founding were some huts and anthrax I'll do it.
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Postby Punished UMN » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:29 pm

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Punished UMN wrote:As I've said before, there is actually a very good argument for there being a Jewish state, but that doesn't make a good argument for the Zionist movement in-particular.

I mean... that's pretty Zionist already. What would you do differently at present?

I mean specifically the putting of the Jewish state in territory which was occupied by large numbers of people and in a place in which this would create a great deal of conflict over. Like I'm not sure how one could argue that going to Palestine was the safest option for a Jewish state given it triggered a massive military conflict across an entire region.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:31 pm

Odreria wrote:
Fahran wrote:I mean... that's pretty Zionist already. What would you do differently at present?

Put it in Missouri


I thought we were supposed to avoid further crimes to the Jewish people?
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Postby Neanderthaland » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:35 pm

Odreria wrote:
Fahran wrote:I mean... that's pretty Zionist already. What would you do differently at present?

Put it in Missouri

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Postby Kowani » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:37 pm

Odreria wrote:
Fahran wrote:I mean... that's pretty Zionist already. What would you do differently at present?

Put it in Missouri

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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:43 pm

Well they have bombed a few people we (assuming you mean the US here) have asked them to bomb, and more than a few people we probably would rather they not bomb including at least one US Navy ship. They have also spent a lot of the money we gave them on US weaponry, helping raise the power, prosperity and status of the US military-industrial complex at the expense of the US taxpayer. And don't forget they ran spies against our nuclear program. A man from Mars would have some difficulty concluding they were our allies, nu?

Re: Western Sahara tho. The previous president issued a proclamation last December purporting to recognize Moroccan sovereignty over Western Sahara. The legal effect of that is dubious. The current administration is conducting a review of US policy toward Morocco, including the Western Sahara question; as of yesterday they had nothing to report. But given that Biden still hasn't spoken to Bibi I would wager the outcome wouldn't be quite what the former First Son-in-Law probably had in mind.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:51 pm

Postauthoritarian America wrote:Well they have bombed a few people we (assuming you mean the US here) have asked them to bomb, and more than a few people we probably would rather they not bomb including at least one US Navy ship. They have also spent a lot of the money we gave them on US weaponry, helping raise the power, prosperity and status of the US military-industrial complex at the expense of the US taxpayer. And don't forget they ran spies against our nuclear program. A man from Mars would have some difficulty concluding they were our allies, nu?

Re: Western Sahara tho. The previous president issued a proclamation last December purporting to recognize Moroccan sovereignty over Western Sahara. The legal effect of that is dubious. The current administration is conducting a review of US policy toward Morocco, including the Western Sahara question; as of yesterday they had nothing to report. But given that Biden still hasn't spoken to Bibi I would wager the outcome wouldn't be quite what the former First Son-in-Law probably had in mind.

Point: Biden called Netanyahu on the 17th
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:55 pm

Kowani wrote:
Postauthoritarian America wrote:Well they have bombed a few people we (assuming you mean the US here) have asked them to bomb, and more than a few people we probably would rather they not bomb including at least one US Navy ship. They have also spent a lot of the money we gave them on US weaponry, helping raise the power, prosperity and status of the US military-industrial complex at the expense of the US taxpayer. And don't forget they ran spies against our nuclear program. A man from Mars would have some difficulty concluding they were our allies, nu?

Re: Western Sahara tho. The previous president issued a proclamation last December purporting to recognize Moroccan sovereignty over Western Sahara. The legal effect of that is dubious. The current administration is conducting a review of US policy toward Morocco, including the Western Sahara question; as of yesterday they had nothing to report. But given that Biden still hasn't spoken to Bibi I would wager the outcome wouldn't be quite what the former First Son-in-Law probably had in mind.

Point: Biden called Netanyahu on the 17th


I stand corrected. Hope Bibi isn't holding his breath for a second chat. Something about corruption charges I hear.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Feb 23, 2021 8:57 pm

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I stand corrected. Hope Bibi isn't holding his breath for a second chat. Something about corruption charges I hear.

Those have been delayed until after the election, at which point (if he wins), there can’t be a trial while he’s in office, I believe
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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:20 pm

Can we go back to the topic of you know What the fuck has Israel done for us???? No "stopping" terrorism doesn't count nor do Israelis who are American in the US's War on Terror because they did jackshit , the US gives about 3.8 billion for protection when its proven Israel can fend for itself
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Postby The Horror Channel » Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:16 am

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Can we go back to the topic of you know What the fuck has Israel done for us???? No "stopping" terrorism doesn't count nor do Israelis who are American in the US's War on Terror because they did jackshit , the US gives about 3.8 billion for protection when its proven Israel can fend for itself


Sure thing. They've done nothing good for us, all while taking money they don't need.

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Postby Ellbonnia » Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:22 am

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Can we go back to the topic of you know What the fuck has Israel done for us???? No "stopping" terrorism doesn't count nor do Israelis who are American in the US's War on Terror because they did jackshit , the US gives about 3.8 billion for protection when its proven Israel can fend for itself


It's that aspect of self-sufficiency that confuses me; for a nation trying so hard to establish its sovereign right to exist (and I would wholeheartedly agree the Israelis have a right to live in peace as a nation), why do American politicians act like any decrease of support for Israel would result in its utter defeat at the hands of the Iranians or Palestinians?

It's like the Americans don't actually think Israel can take care of itself without a disproportionate amount of military and economic support. In which case, as harsh as it sounds, why do they deserve to exist as a country in the first place if they cannot prove that they can defend their own interests without support from a superpower?
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Postby The Cazistan » Wed Feb 24, 2021 12:26 am

Aside from regularly subverting local politics, attacking our troops, and spying on us... nothing really.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:34 am

Ellbonnia wrote:
Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:Can we go back to the topic of you know What the fuck has Israel done for us???? No "stopping" terrorism doesn't count nor do Israelis who are American in the US's War on Terror because they did jackshit , the US gives about 3.8 billion for protection when its proven Israel can fend for itself


It's that aspect of self-sufficiency that confuses me; for a nation trying so hard to establish its sovereign right to exist (and I would wholeheartedly agree the Israelis have a right to live in peace as a nation), why do American politicians act like any decrease of support for Israel would result in its utter defeat at the hands of the Iranians or Palestinians?

It's like the Americans don't actually think Israel can take care of itself without a disproportionate amount of military and economic support. In which case, as harsh as it sounds, why do they deserve to exist as a country in the first place if they cannot prove that they can defend their own interests without support from a superpower?

Tbh if America dumped Israel tomorrow the PRC would be suddenly gaining one new ally. No doubt the prospect of an PRC ally so close to Naples is not appetising in Pentagon circles.

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Postby Nakena » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:12 am

Sank the USS Liberty. In case you don't know about what happened: This is an indepth documentary about the incident where israeli attacks sank an US Navy ship.

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The USS Liberty incident was an attack on a United States Navy technical research ship, USS Liberty, by Israeli Air Force jet fighter aircraft and Israeli Navy motor torpedo boats, on 8 June 1967, during the Six-Day War. The combined air and sea attack killed 34 crew members (naval officers, seamen, two marines, and one civilian NSA employee), wounded 171 crew members, and severely damaged the ship. At the time, the ship was in international waters north of the Sinai Peninsula, about 25.5 nmi (29.3 mi; 47.2 km) northwest from the Egyptian city of Arish
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Postby Hohenzollern Russia » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:19 am

Ellbonnia wrote:
It's that aspect of self-sufficiency that confuses me; for a nation trying so hard to establish its sovereign right to exist (and I would wholeheartedly agree the Israelis have a right to live in peace as a nation), why do American politicians act like any decrease of support for Israel would result in its utter defeat at the hands of the Iranians or Palestinians?

It's like the Americans don't actually think Israel can take care of itself without a disproportionate amount of military and economic support. In which case, as harsh as it sounds, why do they deserve to exist as a country in the first place if they cannot prove that they can defend their own interests without support from a superpower?

A lot of countries can't defend their own interest without support from a superpower, though I agree that given Israel has already proven itself on numerous occasion it can fend off aggression and now have nukes to spare that perhaps U.S shouldn't let Tel Aviv suck its tits so much.

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Tbh if America dumped Israel tomorrow the PRC would be suddenly gaining one new ally. No doubt the prospect of an PRC ally so close to Naples is not appetising in Pentagon circles.


If PRC is the variable in that equation then holding to Israel is a moot point since China already have control of the ports in Balkans. U.S probably see Israel as counter-weight to Russo-Iranian cooperation, one that can seriously endanger its Arabian allies.

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Postby Novokria » Wed Feb 24, 2021 3:24 am

The Cazistan wrote:Aside from regularly subverting local politics, attacking our troops, and spying on us... nothing really.

The uss liberty should probably not have tried to spy on the Israelis and America as a whole should probably stop spying on other nations also America you should get your embassy out of Ukraine and take Zelensky back too.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:22 am

Novokria wrote:
The Cazistan wrote:Aside from regularly subverting local politics, attacking our troops, and spying on us... nothing really.

The uss liberty should probably not have tried to spy on the Israelis and America as a whole should probably stop spying on other nations also America you should get your embassy out of Ukraine and take Zelensky back too.


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Novokria wrote:The uss liberty should probably not have tried to spy on the Israelis and America as a whole should probably stop spying on other nations also America you should get your embassy out of Ukraine and take Zelensky back too.


Respond to my telegram. Do you even know what satanism is? *points at your sig*

Ik you Americans worship the Devil and drink the blood of people you have Sacrificed mainly Ukrainians and Kurds.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:27 am

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Nakena wrote:
Respond to my telegram. Do you even know what satanism is? *points at your sig*

Ik you Americans worship the Devil and drink the blood of people you have Sacrificed mainly Ukrainians and Kurds.


How do you can be sure I am american and that I worship the devil?

Also I don't drink blood, I prefer coffee. Sorry.
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Novokria wrote:Ik you Americans worship the Devil and drink the blood of people you have Sacrificed mainly Ukrainians and Kurds.


How do you can be sure I am american and that I worship the devil?

Also I don't drink blood, I prefer coffee. Sorry.

Well you seem really defensive of the Americans and Devil worshippers
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Postby Nakena » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:32 am

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Nakena wrote:
How do you can be sure I am american and that I worship the devil?

Also I don't drink blood, I prefer coffee. Sorry.

Well you seem really defensive of the Americans and Devil worshippers


You gotta bring up more here. You probably don't even know the difference between an atheistic satanist (LeVayan) and theistic/traditional satanism for example.

Big statements and extraordinary claims require you to back them up with something. This place has a lot of grown adults. You know. You will be challanged, possibly by people who have more and deeper knowledge about a variety of topics than you do.
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Postby Alien Overlord » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:34 am

Novokria wrote:
Nakena wrote:
How do you can be sure I am american and that I worship the devil?

Also I don't drink blood, I prefer coffee. Sorry.

Well you seem really defensive of the Americans and Devil worshippers

That's because America is a democratic nation that regularly defends other democratic nations. It's a great country that fights for righteous values. Also nothing against you personally, but just a gentle warning that you probably should be more careful with the divisive insults, you literally just got over a three day ban.
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Postby Nakena » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:37 am

Alien Overlord wrote:That's because America is a democratic nation that regularly defends other democratic nations. It's a great country that fights for righteous values.


The funny thing is that I don't even believe in that stuff.
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Postby Novokria » Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:38 am

Alien Overlord wrote:
Novokria wrote:Well you seem really defensive of the Americans and Devil worshippers

That's because America is a democratic nation that regularly defends other democratic nations. It's a great country that fights for righteous values. Also nothing against you personally, but just a gentle warning that you probably should be more careful with the divisive insults, you literally just got over a three day ban.

America literary sould out the Kurds to Turkey and thats why the Americans were leaving Syria and the Kurds were throwing stones at them America is just in it for the Oil.
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