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What are your thoughts on agriculture?

Poll runs till Fri May 28, 2021 10:11 am

It is very important
156
95%
It is of little use
2
1%
Other: anything else
6
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Total votes : 164

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:06 pm

Lillorainen wrote:
Aeritai wrote:
Why don't you like farms...???

Sometimes your opinions can be confusing Sun.

Thinking about it, one could also interpret Sun's statement as "I don't like doing farm work", which doesn't necessarily suggest an opposition against the concept of agriculture itself. But they should probably explain that themselves.

Given their comments on rural areas in the American politics thread the issue with agriculture is more likely.
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Postby Lillorainen » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:13 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Lillorainen wrote:Thinking about it, one could also interpret Sun's statement as "I don't like doing farm work", which doesn't necessarily suggest an opposition against the concept of agriculture itself. But they should probably explain that themselves.

Given their comments on rural areas in the American politics thread the issue with agriculture is more likely.

Oh, okay, I wasn't aware of that.

Then, the million dollar question would now still be what the alternatives are ...
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Postby Kowani » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:17 pm

I wouldn’t want to live on one
But farms are necessary and good
Shame they’re being swamped by the megacorporations, tho-
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:18 pm

Lillorainen wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Given their comments on rural areas in the American politics thread the issue with agriculture is more likely.

Oh, okay, I wasn't aware of that.

Then, the million dollar question would now still be what the alternatives are ...

hydroponics, vertical farms, rooftop farms. Of course, these have issues, the big one being a very big reliance on complex technology and electricity, limited space, and in Northern areas, issues with climate and snow for the rooftop.
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Postby Intaglio » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:21 pm

Farms are necessary, since our food all comes ffrom there.

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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:21 pm

It's a necessity for farms to exist, without them we'd have a lot less food.
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Postby The New California Republic » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:49 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Lillorainen wrote:Thinking about it, one could also interpret Sun's statement as "I don't like doing farm work", which doesn't necessarily suggest an opposition against the concept of agriculture itself. But they should probably explain that themselves.

Given their comments on rural areas in the American politics thread the issue with agriculture is more likely.

Yes he wants to depopulate anywhere that is not a city, thinking that towns are a waste of space etc.
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Postby Aeritai » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:58 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Given their comments on rural areas in the American politics thread the issue with agriculture is more likely.

Yes he wants to depopulate anywhere that is not a city, thinking that towns are a waste of space etc.


Wow... That's messed up coming from Sun.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:59 pm

Neutraligon wrote:What do people think of rooftop farms/vertical farming/hydroponic farms and the like for use in cities?


All for it. Both for getting fresh fruit and vegetables to the people in a city to the educational purpose of teaching where our food comes from.
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Postby Paranoid Pangolin » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:15 pm

Farms are over-rated. I get my food from the store. :p

Seriously, without farming the North American continent would only give subsistence for maybe 5 to 7 million people. I don't know the statistics for the other continents but it is probably similar.

Good farming practices are important to any civilization.

I like food and I like people. Having to live like a cave-man gathering roots, nuts, and berries, and having to kill angry food with a pointy stone on the end of a stick every day for myself would suck.

Good farmers are essential. The work hard and get very little recognition. I have a lot of respect for farmers everywhere.
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Postby Heloin » Thu Feb 18, 2021 2:24 pm

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Postby Lillorainen » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:11 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Given their comments on rural areas in the American politics thread the issue with agriculture is more likely.

Yes he wants to depopulate anywhere that is not a city, thinking that towns are a waste of space etc.

... I feel like I've missed a lot ...

Neutraligon wrote:
Lillorainen wrote:Oh, okay, I wasn't aware of that.

Then, the million dollar question would now still be what the alternatives are ...

hydroponics, vertical farms, rooftop farms. Of course, these have issues, the big one being a very big reliance on complex technology and electricity, limited space, and in Northern areas, issues with climate and snow for the rooftop.

So, a lot of things which sound good on paper, but have (too) many issues to face, I got it.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:17 pm

Lillorainen wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Yes he wants to depopulate anywhere that is not a city, thinking that towns are a waste of space etc.

... I feel like I've missed a lot ...

Neutraligon wrote:hydroponics, vertical farms, rooftop farms. Of course, these have issues, the big one being a very big reliance on complex technology and electricity, limited space, and in Northern areas, issues with climate and snow for the rooftop.

So, a lot of things which sound good on paper, but have (too) many issues to face, I got it.

Some are known to work (hydroponics and rooftop gardens) others are currently being tested for economic feasibility (vertical farming). They just have issues, like traditional farming has issues. Traditional farming after all requires a great deal of fertilizer and space, and is also limited by climate and arability. Hydroponics and vertical farming are not limited in the same way due to them going up rather then out and since they are don indoors and do not use soil they do not face the same needs. Rooftop gardens are great, but face the issues of limited space for the number of people and limitation due to climate (a rooftop garden in New York will have to deal with longer winters). The rooftop garden also has a competitor in terms of solar panels.
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Postby Kannap » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:19 pm

I think the agricultural revolution was the worst mistake humanity ever made.
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Postby Nooooooooooooooo » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:19 pm

I'm a card farmer, does that count
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Postby Punished UMN » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:23 pm

Neutraligon wrote:What do people think of rooftop farms/vertical farming/hydroponic farms and the like for use in cities?

I think it's a wonderful idea, it would improve the sense of community in these places and make food prices cheaper.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:24 pm

Punished UMN wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:What do people think of rooftop farms/vertical farming/hydroponic farms and the like for use in cities?

I think it's a wonderful idea, it would improve the sense of community in these places and make food prices cheaper.

It does run into the issue of people putting solar farms up there instead.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:25 pm

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Sundiata wrote:I don't like it.


What do you plan on eating if farms go away lol, other pople?

Well considering that he wants to forcibly move people into the cities so they won’t be homeless, he might well support that idea
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Postby Kannap » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:32 pm

Sundiata wrote:I don't like it.


Do we have any other choice?
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Postby Punished UMN » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:34 pm

Kannap wrote:
Sundiata wrote:I don't like it.


Do we have any other choice?

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Postby Paris Saint-Germain » Thu Feb 18, 2021 3:36 pm

I love farms, especially since we farm the entire French league and are called the French farmers!
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Postby Luziyca » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:34 pm

My mother grew up on a small dairy farm that didn't do too well and so she and her family moved to the city.

I do like being able to eat, and given I'm not really willing to get my hands dirty, well, I'm thankful that they exist.
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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:53 pm

Neutraligon wrote:What do people think of rooftop farms/vertical farming/hydroponic farms and the like for use in cities?

Good idea to make use of otherwise unused space and could possibly help alleviate food deserts.
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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:54 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Lillorainen wrote:Oh, okay, I wasn't aware of that.

Then, the million dollar question would now still be what the alternatives are ...

hydroponics, vertical farms, rooftop farms. Of course, these have issues, the big one being a very big reliance on complex technology and electricity, limited space, and in Northern areas, issues with climate and snow for the rooftop.

I don’t think urban farming will ever get to the point that it replaces more traditional farms.
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Postby Andsed » Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:02 pm

I mean I like eating and not starving, so farms are pretty nifty.
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