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What are your thoughts on agriculture?

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It is very important
157
95%
It is of little use
3
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Other: anything else
6
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Total votes : 166

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Postby Echo Chamber Thought Police » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:39 am

Major-Tom wrote:My (very late) grandparents had a tobacco farm in Missouri. Whenever I'm in KC, I usually make the hour drive up to the old family tobacco farm, and it's beautiful. Needless to say, I love farms, and when I have some more money, I'd love to buy some land in the Midwest to have a small-scale farm.

Probably not a tobacco farm, though, I hope...
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Postby Virgolia » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:39 am

Agriculture is one of the biggest mistakes in the history of mankind, it is an abhorrent practice that has cursed us to hellish lives, it is of utmost importance that agriculture is banned and society goes back to hunter-gatherer tribes where we will finally live in peace and with unlimited freedom
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:41 am

Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:My (very late) grandparents had a tobacco farm in Missouri. Whenever I'm in KC, I usually make the hour drive up to the old family tobacco farm, and it's beautiful. Needless to say, I love farms, and when I have some more money, I'd love to buy some land in the Midwest to have a small-scale farm.

Probably not a tobacco farm, though, I hope...


No, probably not. They tried growing soybeans as well, but the non-GMO variant they used didn't fare well in Northern Missouri. So, tobacco was their main crop.

Anyhow, tobacco has been replaced by a slightly healthier, slightly greener, and much more intoxicating crop in many markets and for many individuals. If federal legislation changes, I'd give that a go when I'm older.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:43 am

I like farms, my food comes from there.
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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:44 am

Virgolia wrote:Agriculture is one of the biggest mistakes in the history of mankind, it is an abhorrent practice that has cursed us to hellish lives, it is of utmost importance that agriculture is banned and society goes back to hunter-gatherer tribes where we will finally live in peace and with unlimited freedom

Lol

Tell me who would enforce this ban?
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:44 am

My thoughts on farms? Most of them are owned by corporations that can go fall in a hole. The rest are owned by millionaires, granted some of them have their entire wealth tied up in the land/equipment. They receive a ton of subsidies from the government and often are portrayed as poor and under threat from the big bad (mostly poor) people in the cities.

People in the cities would love to eat healthy food. Sadly it can get incredibly expensive. I can eat a meal for about $1. Or I can buy fresh food from the farmers market and spend $10+ on something. Or I could grow vegetables, fish the nearby river, and die of various cancers caused by pollutants in a decade.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:44 am

Virgolia wrote:Agriculture is one of the biggest mistakes in the history of mankind, it is an abhorrent practice that has cursed us to hellish lives, it is of utmost importance that agriculture is banned and society goes back to hunter-gatherer tribes where we will finally live in peace and with unlimited freedom


Slow down there, Ted.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:46 am

Virgolia wrote:Agriculture is one of the biggest mistakes in the history of mankind, it is an abhorrent practice that has cursed us to hellish lives, it is of utmost importance that agriculture is banned and society goes back to hunter-gatherer tribes where we will finally live in peace and with unlimited freedom


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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:46 am

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:My thoughts on farms? Most of them are owned by corporations that can go fall in a hole. The rest are owned by millionaires, granted some of them have their entire wealth tied up in the land/equipment. They receive a ton of subsidies from the government and often are portrayed as poor and under threat from the big bad (mostly poor) people in the cities.

People in the cities would love to eat healthy food. Sadly it can get incredibly expensive. I can eat a meal for about $1. Or I can buy fresh food from the farmers market and spend $10+ on something. Or I could grow vegetables, fish the nearby river, and die of various cancers caused by pollutants in a decade.

Most farmers have all fo their assets tied up in land and equipment. Most don’t live like millionaires.

And subsidies is what makes food cheap.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:46 am

They are pretty important not gona lie.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:47 am

Adamede wrote:
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:My thoughts on farms? Most of them are owned by corporations that can go fall in a hole. The rest are owned by millionaires, granted some of them have their entire wealth tied up in the land/equipment. They receive a ton of subsidies from the government and often are portrayed as poor and under threat from the big bad (mostly poor) people in the cities.

People in the cities would love to eat healthy food. Sadly it can get incredibly expensive. I can eat a meal for about $1. Or I can buy fresh food from the farmers market and spend $10+ on something. Or I could grow vegetables, fish the nearby river, and die of various cancers caused by pollutants in a decade.

Most farmers have all fo their assets tied up in land and equipment. Most don’t live like millionaires.

And subsidies is what makes food cheap.


Exactly this. Farmers have the potential to make some good god damn money, but it's also rather lucrative in that a few bad seasons or a few bad years can land you in financial ruin.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:49 am

Adamede wrote:
Virgolia wrote:Agriculture is one of the biggest mistakes in the history of mankind, it is an abhorrent practice that has cursed us to hellish lives, it is of utmost importance that agriculture is banned and society goes back to hunter-gatherer tribes where we will finally live in peace and with unlimited freedom

Lol

Tell me who would enforce this ban?

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Postby Kargintinia » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:50 am

I do like not starving, so farms are pretty good

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Postby Lillorainen » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:50 am

Shin-Mutsu wrote:
Lillorainen wrote:You're getting dangerously close to the point.


It seems my sarcasm detector was switched off, my bad.
But yes, farming is important. Every young person should have some farming experience, which is why they should be sent to the fields to practice weeding, plowing, hoeing, harvesting, and planting.

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Indeed, it's essential. I might be a bit advantaged, since my grandmother grew up on a farm and still grows food in her garden, so I'm not exactly the guy who looks at seeds and wonders what to do with it. I still have less experience than I should ... still, I notice some trend towards urban farming, which I consider a good thing.

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Postby Amos-Nuraka » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:51 am

farm good
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Postby Cameroi » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:51 am

not as interesting as complete wilderness, but everybody's gotta eat. more interesting places then being stuck in a city.
lots of lovely odd old mechanical fiddly bits to play with in old barns.

large scale mono culture tends to be abusive of everything, but isn't the only or best way of doing things.

many many thoughts i have, but mostly land has become too expensive for poor people, and that represents a major loss of opportunity.

i'm too old now, but wish i could have owned, or for people to not have to own, a little piece of land all my life when i was younger.
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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:59 am

Adamede wrote:
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:My thoughts on farms? Most of them are owned by corporations that can go fall in a hole. The rest are owned by millionaires, granted some of them have their entire wealth tied up in the land/equipment. They receive a ton of subsidies from the government and often are portrayed as poor and under threat from the big bad (mostly poor) people in the cities.

People in the cities would love to eat healthy food. Sadly it can get incredibly expensive. I can eat a meal for about $1. Or I can buy fresh food from the farmers market and spend $10+ on something. Or I could grow vegetables, fish the nearby river, and die of various cancers caused by pollutants in a decade.

Most farmers have all fo their assets tied up in land and equipment. Most don’t live like millionaires.

And subsidies is what makes food cheap.

I already said that, although we disagree on whether it is most or just some. All the farmers I have met were living very very comfortably. None had a supercar but they all had toys. Brand new pickups, horses, 4 wheelers, high end rifles, and tools the rest of us could only dream of having in a garage. Granted they work a lot but these days its common for everyone.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:04 am

Lapis Lazului wrote:I live and work on a farm and I am starting to feel like some of you people of the world care none for good food anymore. All I see people eating are a bunch of foods with chemicals that are not okay for you to keep eating so I want to know yalls thoughts on Farming and good agriculture.

You know that those foods with chemicals also come from farms, yeah?
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Postby Echo Chamber Thought Police » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:18 am

Major-Tom wrote:
Virgolia wrote:Agriculture is one of the biggest mistakes in the history of mankind, it is an abhorrent practice that has cursed us to hellish lives, it is of utmost importance that agriculture is banned and society goes back to hunter-gatherer tribes where we will finally live in peace and with unlimited freedom


Slow down there, Ted.

I was going to respond with something like this...
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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:21 am

Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:
Adamede wrote:Most farmers have all fo their assets tied up in land and equipment. Most don’t live like millionaires.

And subsidies is what makes food cheap.

I already said that, although we disagree on whether it is most or just some. All the farmers I have met were living very very comfortably. None had a supercar but they all had toys. Brand new pickups, horses, 4 wheelers, high end rifles, and tools the rest of us could only dream of having in a garage. Granted they work a lot but these days its common for everyone.

And most I’ve met are a few bad harvests away from losing all of their shit.

And what you described sounds upper middle class life style, not that of a millionaire.
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Postby Aeritai » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:44 pm

Sundiata wrote:I don't like it.


Why don't you like farms...???

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Postby Atheris » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:55 pm

Farms are unfathomably important. They're the cornerstone of human society.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:56 pm

What do people think of rooftop farms/vertical farming/hydroponic farms and the like for use in cities?
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Feb 18, 2021 12:57 pm

Food has to come from somewhere, so of course I’m pro farms.
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Postby Lillorainen » Thu Feb 18, 2021 1:02 pm

Aeritai wrote:
Sundiata wrote:I don't like it.


Why don't you like farms...???

Sometimes your opinions can be confusing Sun.

Thinking about it, one could also interpret Sun's statement as "I don't like doing farm work", which doesn't necessarily suggest an opposition against the concept of agriculture itself. But they should probably explain that themselves.
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