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What are your thoughts on agriculture?

Poll runs till Fri May 28, 2021 10:11 am

It is very important
156
95%
It is of little use
2
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Other: anything else
6
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Total votes : 164

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Postby Ethel mermania » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:29 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:So much for ewe


That's okay, I am more into humans anyway :)

Fair, you have always had a thing for mary.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:42 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The essentials of life are pretty boring.

Not having them would be worse.

Yeah, they're essential. Still boring, though.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Feb 19, 2021 7:45 am

The Lone Alliance wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:I practice small scale agriculture at home and am probably going to expand this year so naturally I have a favorable opinion.

What do you grow?


We haven't gotten things in the ground yet this year but last year we had: an apple tree, a cherry tree, various berry bushes, carrots, potatoes, corn, onions, lettuce, green beans, peas, celery and cucumbers. This year the setup will look probably mostly the same but I do want to try and plant some wheat and see how that goes.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:34 am

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Bad dog. We are doing the Settler questline for this playthrough.
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Postby Chan Island » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:42 am

Unfathomably important and cool things. I am very pro-farm (if you could believe it), and have wistfully thought of what being one would be like.

My parents keep a nice selection of edible plants in the garden so technically there's small scale farming there. An apple tree, Mulberry bush, chickens, a walnut tree, potatoes, onions, raspberries... I really enjoy doing the gardening and it's a bit of a shame that 2020's lockdowns ended up resulting in me doing that kind of work for the first time in over a decade.

Not a very good idea to base the entirety of a modern civilisation around though. They are already highly mechanised and advanced, a trend set to continue with less and less people needing to work in it.

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Bad dog. We are doing the Settler questline for this playthrough.


Eh, tbh the run's dead. We invented NSG.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:48 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:Raiders > Settlers

Bad dog. We are doing the Settler questline for this playthrough.


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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:53 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Bad dog. We are doing the Settler questline for this playthrough.


How is this playthrough going?

Bad, because Dogmeat has the Settler faction set to hostile, and the Raider faction set to friendly. He was being a pain in the ass, so I said to him "wait for me in Sanctuary", but he just murdered all the Settlers there. :(
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Postby Gibraltarica » Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:51 am

The Free Joy State wrote:
Ifreann wrote:The essentials of life are pretty boring.

Not having them would be worse.

idk I feel like we could just scavenge.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:06 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:Farms for produce are fine.

Farms for animals are not. We're not living in 1984 anymore.

Animal husbandry has a huge environmental impact that we should drastically reduce.

Does the rest of your flock know that you just sold them down the river?
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Postby Bear Stearns » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:08 am

Farmers will inherit the earth
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:11 am

The Two Jerseys wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:Farms for produce are fine.

Farms for animals are not. We're not living in 1984 anymore.

Animal husbandry has a huge environmental impact that we should drastically reduce.

Does the rest of your flock know that you just sold them down the river?


Meat is murder, vegetarianism is genocide.
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Postby United Interuniversal Federation » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:20 am

Shin-Mutsu wrote:According to Park Hyeja, it is important to expand emphasis on both agriculture and industry simultaneously. Only then can a nation become self-reliant and self-strengthened.

I agree. In a nation it is important to develop an ability to produce important supplies such as food from within itself so that if an issue were to occur causing supply line disruption from exterior countries, it still has important resources and does not simply starve to death. Agriculture is still important, it just takes place using more modern technology and methods.

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Postby Katganistan » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:28 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:Does the rest of your flock know that you just sold them down the river?


Meat is murder, vegetarianism is genocide.

I could murder a steak right now....

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Feb 19, 2021 2:31 pm

Katganistan wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Meat is murder, vegetarianism is genocide.

I could murder a steak right now....


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Postby Kowani » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:09 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:Farms for produce are fine.

Farms for animals are not. We're not living in 1984 anymore.

Animal husbandry has a huge environmental impact that we should drastically reduce.

Tbf
If we stopped farming animals, a lot of them would go extinct, Mr. Sheep
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:14 pm

The New California Republic wrote:The OP is mediocre and needs expanding.

True, but you've got to admit that he's got that rustic charm. Which, come to think of it, is a bit strange, given how you would expect the agro-industrial conglomerates to have put an end to that kind of behaviour in the name of cold, loveless efficiency.


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Postby Diahon » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:26 pm

the sooner humanity shifts to technologies that don't consume as much space as farmland for our dietary needs (say, hydroponics), the better for the earth as a whole

without the ecosystem-altering effects of intensive agriculture, vast swathes of land can be left to the forest, allowing numerous vulnerable and endangered species room to recover and thrive again

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Postby Fluvannia » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:33 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:I like farms, particularly fruit farms, nothing like taking fresh fruit off a tree or bush


A good pick-your-own strawberry place is worth its weight in....well, probably only in strawberries, because farms are heavy and money is finite.
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Postby Auze » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:42 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Anyhow, tobacco has been replaced by a slightly healthier, slightly greener, and much more intoxicating crop in many markets and for many individuals. If federal legislation changes, I'd give that a go when I'm older.

Rhubarb?
Kowani wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:Farms for produce are fine.

Farms for animals are not. We're not living in 1984 anymore.

Animal husbandry has a huge environmental impact that we should drastically reduce.

Tbf
If we stopped farming animals, a lot of them would go extinct, Mr. Sheep

Domestic sheep especially, evolutionally speaking, herbivores should not regularly lose in battle with their food.
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Postby The Fortem » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:45 pm

well, card farms don't effect anyone.

huh... wrong farm?... damn.. uh

i like cows
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Postby Diahon » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:46 pm

Auze wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:Anyhow, tobacco has been replaced by a slightly healthier, slightly greener, and much more intoxicating crop in many markets and for many individuals. If federal legislation changes, I'd give that a go when I'm older.

Rhubarb?
Kowani wrote:Tbf
If we stopped farming animals, a lot of them would go extinct, Mr. Sheep

Domestic sheep especially, evolutionally speaking, herbivores should not regularly lose in battle with their food.


what's this about sheep and their losing battle against grasses?

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Postby Auze » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:19 pm

Diahon wrote:
Auze wrote:Rhubarb?

Domestic sheep especially, evolutionally speaking, herbivores should not regularly lose in battle with their food.


what's this about sheep and their losing battle against grasses?

Not grasses, but they are known to get caught in brambles pretty easily. And that's not counting whatever this is.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Fri Feb 19, 2021 8:37 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:Farms for produce are fine.

Farms for animals are not. We're not living in 1984 anymore.

Animal husbandry has a huge environmental impact that we should drastically reduce.

If it is safe and a sustainable (in both economic & environmental terms) industry, I would honestly prefer cultured meat over the stuff cut out of animal corpses.

Seems cleaner to me.
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Postby Arlenton » Fri Feb 19, 2021 9:45 pm

Farming is great. I've lived on a self sustaining chicken farm. Never had to buy eggs. Thinking about doing that again when I get land. Depending on where I end up buying I could also get into some small scale rice and crawfish farming. It looks pretty interesting.

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Postby Kashimura » Fri Feb 19, 2021 10:06 pm

Farming’s about as important as any city job. My grandpa and uncle have farms, and I get free stuff from them sometimes. Beef, blueberries, chips, corn, squash, onions, bacon, and sometimes venison. We’d get milk too, but that all goes to Horizon.

I want more venison…
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