Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:48 pmNo, debating Chomsky is funny af: https://twitter.com/zuza_real/status/13 ... 1455570954
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:48 pmPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:50 pmPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:51 pmPunished UMN wrote:Major-Tom wrote:
I get the feeling it might be more boring than you expect. I've seen sand-covered croutons that are less dry than Chomsky.
No, debating Chomsky is funny af: https://twitter.com/zuza_real/status/13 ... 1455570954
Hadn't seen that, pretty funny. Either way, I find it hard to sit through a Chomsky lecture, though I've mostly reviewed his linguistic (not political) work on account of what I do.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:53 pmNew haven america wrote:1. Nope, tis not. Went through the most common definitions on several dictionaries.
It leaves out a lot of the common features of Fascism, which makes the definition a touch imprecise.
Features of Fascism:
- Palingenetic Ultranationalism
- Corporatism, National Syndicalism, or Third-Way economic policies
- Totalitarianism - emphasis of the state at the expense of other institutions
- Hegelian Philosophy and Marxism, though quite obviously not applied in conventional ways
- Anti-Liberalism, Anti-Communism, and Anti-Conservatism
- Rejection of the Enlightenment
- Militarism
- Reactionary
- Revolutionary
New haven america wrote:2. You realize you don't need to be wearing an SS uniform and giving the "Heil Hitler" to have Nazi-based beliefs, correct?
I do. I also realize that less scrupulous and discerning activists have taken it upon themselves to brand people as Nazis without understanding the philosophical underpinnings and broad tendencies of Nazism (or Fascism) because it's a convenient way to gain the moral high ground and because, in some instances, it's let them act like heroes when they try to hurt other people.
New haven america wrote:And yes, he was a totalitarian nationalist
Source on this claim?
New haven america wrote:Make of that what you will.
It means he was a racist conspiracy theorist. Someone doesn't have to be a Nazi to have bad political takes. You have them on a daily basis and are very much not a Nazi to my knowledge. You also don't become a Nazi because you happen to be racist - else-wise NSG would have more Nazis than the usual suspects given some of the spicy remarks I've read in the past couple years.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:56 pmI’ve never heard of this person until this thread, and based on what has been said about him here, that makes me luckier than most.
The usual religious-conservative crew is out on this thread speaking in the defence of his interesting and colourful remarks, I see.
There is no death that is not a tragedy, but seeing how I am a petty mortal with limited emotional capabilities, I think I shall be reserving my sympathies for other tragedies.
The usual religious-conservative crew is out on this thread speaking in the defence of his interesting and colourful remarks, I see.
There is no death that is not a tragedy, but seeing how I am a petty mortal with limited emotional capabilities, I think I shall be reserving my sympathies for other tragedies.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:59 pm
It was actually just proving a point that having a Black guy working for you doesn't axiomatically make you not racist. With a Black Wehrmacht trooper held up as an illustrative example.
But of course even that tiny amount of nuance is immediately overlooked.
Well, that. And Sai showing up.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:02 pmNeanderthaland wrote:It was actually just proving a point that having a Black guy working for you doesn't axiomatically make you not racist. With a Black Wehrmacht trooper held up as an illustrative example.
But of course even that tiny amount of nuance is immediately overlooked.
I'm very specifically responding to the "if the shoe fits" comment that popped up at the end of that conversation when the Nazi analogy was taken as something other than an example. Perhaps I ought not to have engaged, but, alas, I'm too small-brained to exercise impulse control. Oy vey iz mir.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:03 pmPublic executions are so old-fashioned
Neanderthaland wrote:The Exarchate of the West wrote:
People are comparing Limbaugh to Not-sees or summat? What a shocking development.
It was actually just proving a point that having a Black guy working for you doesn't axiomatically make you not racist. With a Black Wehrmacht trooper held up as an illustrative example.
But of course even that tiny amount of nuance is immediately overlooked.
Nuance? Not on my NSG!
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:14 pmNorth Atlantropa wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/rush-limbaugh-conservative-radio-provocateur-and-cultural-phenomenon-dies-at-70/ar-BB1dLy8M?ocid=msedgntp'
just saw from my parents phone that Rush Limbaugh died from cancer. I listened to him on my way home from work or travelling to visit family. He is controversial but I did agree with some of his ideas or thoughts but not all of them.
MODERATOR EDIT TO INCLUDE FOR NEW ARRIVALS: A general reminder that you can criticize Rush Limbaugh's actions and beliefs without gloating over his death. Take it to your social media if you want to go dancing on graves.
Sorry to hear that. No matter what you support please don’t celebrate human deaths.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:18 pmNeanderthaland wrote:I'm sure someone somewhere is very sad about this. And to those people: I will try to summon some sympathy for you.
No promises.
We don't need sympathy.
GMS.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:18 pmI'm sure his family and friends and everyone who knew him do need some sympathy right now. Losing someone, and to cancer especially, is really hard.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:20 pmNekostan-e Gharbi wrote:North Atlantropa wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/rush-limbaugh-conservative-radio-provocateur-and-cultural-phenomenon-dies-at-70/ar-BB1dLy8M?ocid=msedgntp'
just saw from my parents phone that Rush Limbaugh died from cancer. I listened to him on my way home from work or travelling to visit family. He is controversial but I did agree with some of his ideas or thoughts but not all of them.
MODERATOR EDIT TO INCLUDE FOR NEW ARRIVALS: A general reminder that you can criticize Rush Limbaugh's actions and beliefs without gloating over his death. Take it to your social media if you want to go dancing on graves.
Sorry to hear that. No matter what you support please don’t celebrate human deaths.
indeed
we are all held to a higher standard than Rush Limbaugh was
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:21 pmFedel wrote:Nilokeras wrote:
No longer relevant? Limbaugh cast a long shadow over the history of the last 30 years and the years to come. His death doesn't end that, and virtue signalling by prayer or well wishes to the family changes nothing. It serves only as a public declaration of 'virtue'.
And what exactly does denigrating a dead man do? Lmfao. You people don't even realize how ridiculous you sound, do you?
Why, it honours his memory. As people pointed out, Limbaugh is the man who popularised celebrating the death of people you disagree with. Preferably with a nice sound effect or tune.
Celebrating his passing is therefor honouring his life. Arguably.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:21 pmPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:21 pmNekostan-e Gharbi wrote:North Atlantropa wrote:https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/rush-limbaugh-conservative-radio-provocateur-and-cultural-phenomenon-dies-at-70/ar-BB1dLy8M?ocid=msedgntp'
just saw from my parents phone that Rush Limbaugh died from cancer. I listened to him on my way home from work or travelling to visit family. He is controversial but I did agree with some of his ideas or thoughts but not all of them.
MODERATOR EDIT TO INCLUDE FOR NEW ARRIVALS: A general reminder that you can criticize Rush Limbaugh's actions and beliefs without gloating over his death. Take it to your social media if you want to go dancing on graves.
Sorry to hear that. No matter what you support please don’t celebrate human deaths.
Yeah, as you can tell, almost nobody on NSG liked him.
Honestly surprised the mods haven't locked it yet.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:22 pmI have two posts on this thread honoring Conservative Republican Commentator Rush Limbaugh and his family, on behalf of myself, Republican Presidents Donald J Trump, George W Bush and First Ladies Melania Trump and Laura Bush. The poster was not offering sympathy to Rush Limbaugh and his family, he was offering sympathy for the persons honoring Rush Limbaugh.
GMS.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:22 pmKowani wrote:indeed
we are all held to a higher standard than Rush Limbaugh was
Hopefully, by our own moral imaginations and virtues.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:23 pmXmara wrote:Yeah, as you can tell, almost nobody on NSG liked him.
Honestly surprised the mods haven't locked it yet.
They shouldn't have to lock threads like this. If people break the rules, people get in trouble - as they would in any other thread.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:23 pmNanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Nilokeras wrote:
Forgiveness of the living can be a virtue. Forgiveness of the dead is idle vanity masquerading as moral superiority.
I keep reading your name wrong... as Nikoleras... funny thing though... read right, “-lokeras” reminds me of craziness in Spanish. Just a parenthesis, btw. I’ll take myself out.
bruh, this is the first time I've noticed it isn't Nikoleras
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:25 pm
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:25 pmThe 48 hours after someone's death is when their legacy is cemented. If what their legacy is matters to you, that's the time to say your bit.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:25 pmperhaps that is for the best
looks at internet
yeah...no
it's the rules
there are some people here who wouldn't dance on his grave, sure
but based on what i've been seeing...that's not the norm
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:25 pmGreater Miami Shores wrote:Loeje wrote:I'm sure his family and friends and everyone who knew him do need some sympathy right now. Losing someone, and to cancer especially, is really hard.
I have two posts on this thread honoring Conservative Republican Commentator Rush Limbaugh and his family, on behalf of myself, Republican Presidents Donald J Trump, George W Bush and First Ladies Melania Trump and Laura Bush. The poster was not offering sympathy to Rush Limbaugh and his family, he was offering sympathy for the persons honoring Rush Limbaugh.
GMS.
Maybe I misunderstood. I thought of it as a way of offering sympathy to Rush Limbaugh's loved ones.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:29 pmRush Limbaugh stood as an example to me of what not to be. Rush's anger and vengefulness endeared him to some people but I have no doubt it drove away others. I could go and be negative and spiteful like he was or I could put the partisanship aside and do what I thought was right for all of us regardless of personal beliefs, and I chose the latter. At day's end you're not really a man of the people unless you're willing to represent those who don't agree with you for the common good, something Limbaugh didn't do. So I'll always owe him that I guess. Limbaugh reminded me alot of my grandfather, an angry old man with a war inside his head. We should all do our best not to become like him but instead to change the world for the better, not just score political points.
Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:30 pmI did the same thing but noticed a few months ago