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Postby Fahran » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:31 pm

New haven america wrote:Nazism, also known as National Socialism (Despite not being socialist), is a form of fascism characterized by totalitarianism, extreme nationalism, scientific racism and anti-Semitism, scientific racism and sexism as well as eugenics.

Is there anything else you'd like to know or are you willing to admit that you're incorrect in your assumptions and claims towards me?

Okay. Your definition is a bit off, but not terribly so.

Was Rush Limbaugh a totalitarian nationalist who believed that Jews secretly controlled the world and that Aryans were/are the master race? Or was he just a boisterous neocon with racist and sexist views?

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Postby The Exarchate of the West » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:32 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:From Limbaugh to Nazism to US responses... this thread has quite the mileage. >.>


People are comparing Limbaugh to Not-sees or summat? What a shocking development. :roll:
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Postby Herador » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:32 pm

Fahran wrote:
New haven america wrote:Nazism, also known as National Socialism (Despite not being socialist), is a form of fascism characterized by totalitarianism, extreme nationalism, scientific racism and anti-Semitism, scientific racism and sexism as well as eugenics.

Is there anything else you'd like to know or are you willing to admit that you're incorrect in your assumptions and claims towards me?

Okay. Your definition is a bit off, but not terribly so.

Was Rush Limbaugh a totalitarian nationalist who believed that Jews secretly controlled the world and that Aryans were/are the master race? Or was he just a boisterous neocon with racist and sexist views?

I guess it depends on whether he was just kidding or not.

The Exarchate of the West wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:From Limbaugh to Nazism to US responses... this thread has quite the mileage. >.>


People are comparing Limbaugh to Not-sees or summat? What a shocking development. :roll:

Someone claimed someone did, yeah. But your willingness to just believe it and snark is amusing too.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:33 pm

The Exarchate of the West wrote:Rush Limbaugh... The only other conservative talk radio personality that I can compare him to is Paul Harvey in terms of how influential he's been.

William F. Buckley Jr.?

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Postby Diahon » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:33 pm

Saiwania wrote:All of the supposedly horrible and terrible things Rush Limbaugh said, what people who're against Rush need to understand about Rush's audience is that for them, he was speaking the truth like it or not. They certainly wouldn't bat an eye to what was said. Once again, its the feature and nothing to feel any shame about. Rightists fundamentally think and feel differently on the issues than Liberals.


and they'd be wrong

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Postby Fahran » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:33 pm

Herador wrote:I guess it depends on whether he was just kidding or not.

I mean... Jokes are supposed to be funny.

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Postby Kowani » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:33 pm

Herador wrote:
Fahran wrote:Okay. Your definition is a bit off, but not terribly so.

Was Rush Limbaugh a totalitarian nationalist who believed that Jews secretly controlled the world and that Aryans were/are the master race? Or was he just a boisterous neocon with racist and sexist views?

I guess it depends on whether he was just kidding or not.

all words are forgiven if you add a /s tag at the end, dontcha know?
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Postby Herador » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:34 pm

Fahran wrote:
Herador wrote:I guess it depends on whether he was just kidding or not.

I mean... Jokes are supposed to be funny.

I thought so too, but this thread has shown me the light.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:34 pm

Kowani wrote:
Herador wrote:I guess it depends on whether he was just kidding or not.

all words are forgiven if you add a /s tag at the end, dontcha know?

I'm going to abuse this so much. :p

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:35 pm

Herador wrote:
Fahran wrote:Okay. Your definition is a bit off, but not terribly so.

Was Rush Limbaugh a totalitarian nationalist who believed that Jews secretly controlled the world and that Aryans were/are the master race? Or was he just a boisterous neocon with racist and sexist views?

I guess it depends on whether he was just kidding or not.

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People are comparing Limbaugh to Not-sees or summat? What a shocking development. :roll:

Someone claimed someone did, yeah. But your willingness to just believe it and snark is amusing too.


I am convinced this site is powered exclusively by snark.
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Postby Herador » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:35 pm

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Kowani wrote:all words are forgiven if you add a /s tag at the end, dontcha know?

I'm going to abuse this so much. :p

It's "no homo" for the modern age.
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Postby New haven america » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:35 pm

Kowani wrote:
Fahran wrote:Given I have no intention of trying, that's quite the marvel.

my opposition to rurality runs deep

New haven america wrote:Then why are those regressive elements so prevalent in day to day life?

Like, IDK, Rush Limbaugh's radio show perhaps?

...
is this a serious response or-

Are you actually going to give me an answer or...?
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:36 pm

National Socialism is indeed Socialist within the context of the German politics of the early 20th century. It just isn't the form of Socialism that most Socialists actually want, but it is nonetheless collectivist enough to qualify for the Socialist label. The Nazi Party had a real Socialist wing that got purged after Night of the Long Knives.

Look up TIK's videos on Youtube, he can better explain why Nazism is Socialist better than I. He does tons of political theory videos and etc.
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Postby The Exarchate of the West » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:36 pm

Fahran wrote:William F. Buckley Jr.?


I never really paid attention to him. Wasn't he the guy who set up National Review?
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Postby Kowani » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:37 pm

Fahran wrote:
Kowani wrote:all words are forgiven if you add a /s tag at the end, dontcha know?

I'm going to abuse this so much. :p

don't you dare

New haven america wrote:
Kowani wrote:my opposition to rurality runs deep


...
is this a serious response or-

Are you actually going to give me an answer or...?

so there's my answer

Saiwania wrote:National Socialism is indeed Socialist within the context of the German politics of the early 20th century. It just isn't the form of Socialism that most Socialists actually want, but it is nonetheless collectivist enough to qualify for the Socialist label. The Nazi Party had a real Socialist wing that got purged after Night of the Long Knives.

Look up TIK's videos on Youtube, he can better explain why Nazism is Socialist better than I. He does tons of political theory videos and etc.

so close, yet so far

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Fahran wrote:William F. Buckley Jr.?


I never really paid attention to him. Wasn't he the guy who set up National Review?

an "intellectual" heavyweight of conservatism
got fucking rocked by Chomsky
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:38 pm

Alcala-Cordel wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:George W. Bush: Rush Limbaugh 'Was Friend Throughout My Presidency'

https://www.newsmax.com/us/obituary-rea ... d/1010423/

As a Proud Republican, I Post this Post on behalf of Republican President George W Bush:

"Laura and I are sorry to learn that Rush Limbaugh has passed away. A son of Cape Girardeau, Missouri, Rush rose as a pioneer of talk radio starting in the 1980s, and was a friend throughout my presidency. While he was brash, at times controversial, and always opinionated, he spoke his mind as a voice for millions of Americans and approached each day with gusto."

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Postby Fahran » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:39 pm

Herador wrote:Someone claimed someone did, yeah. But your willingness to just believe it and snark is amusing too.

Necro did a bit earlier and NVA decided to argue the point when I pointed out that the Nazi shoe doesn't really fit on Limbaugh. He was a lot of things, many of them quite bad, but he was not really a Nazi by any stretch. If I labelled everyone who was racist or Antisemitic a Nazi, well, my definition would strike many as a little sus. So I try to hold other people to that standard too.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:40 pm

Kowani wrote:an "intellectual" heavyweight of conservatism
got fucking rocked by Chomsky

I want to debate Chomsky one day. It could be fun.

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:40 pm

Fahran wrote:
Herador wrote:Someone claimed someone did, yeah. But your willingness to just believe it and snark is amusing too.

Necro did a bit earlier and NVA decided to argue the point when I pointed out that the Nazi shoe doesn't really fit on Limbaugh. He's a lot of things, many of them quite bad, but he's not really a Nazi by any stretch. If I labelled everyone who was racist or Antisemitic a Nazi, well, my definition would strike many as a little sus.


Won’t talk for Necro but I think it just blended into the talk about Rush’s racism on his show.
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Postby Herador » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:41 pm

Fahran wrote:
Kowani wrote:an "intellectual" heavyweight of conservatism
got fucking rocked by Chomsky

I want to debate Chomsky one day. It could be fun.

I like him, but I never want to meet him. Dude seems like the kind of person who could turn a discussion on what to have for dinner into an ordeal.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:42 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Won’t talk for Necro but I think it just blended into the talk about Rush’s racism on his show.

Fair, though "racist" might be the better descriptor in that case. It's not as spicy, but it's a good deal more accurate.

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Postby New haven america » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:43 pm

Fahran wrote:
New haven america wrote:Nazism, also known as National Socialism (Despite not being socialist), is a form of fascism characterized by totalitarianism, extreme nationalism, scientific racism and anti-Semitism, scientific racism and sexism as well as eugenics.

Is there anything else you'd like to know or are you willing to admit that you're incorrect in your assumptions and claims towards me?

1. Okay. Your definition is a bit off, but not terribly so.

1. Was Rush Limbaugh a totalitarian nationalist who believed that Jews secretly controlled the world and that Aryans were/are the master race? Or was he just a boisterous neocon with racist and sexist views?

1. Nope, tis not. Went through the most common definitions on several dictionaries.
2. You realize you don't need to be wearing an SS uniform and giving the "Heil Hitler" to have Nazi-based beliefs, correct?

And yes, he was a totalitarian nationalist and racist/sexist. Oh yeah, and he was a major QAnon spreader and claimed that the Dems allowed Charlottesville to happen for their own ends and to make the US right look bad.

Make of that what you will.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:44 pm

Fahran wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:Won’t talk for Necro but I think it just blended into the talk about Rush’s racism on his show.

Fair, though "racist" might be the better descriptor in that case. It's not as spicy, but it's a good deal more accurate.


Progression, I think, went as follows:
Póster 1: Rush can’t be racist. His producer was black.
Poster 2: that’s like saying Nazis weren’t racist because they had black soldiers in the Wehrmacht.
And it went from there.
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Postby The Exarchate of the West » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:45 pm

Kowani wrote:an "intellectual" heavyweight of conservatism
got fucking rocked by Chomsky


I recall reading this unflattering article with great amusement on Lew Rockwell's site about Buckley.

https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/th ... uckley-jr/
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Postby Punished UMN » Wed Feb 17, 2021 8:47 pm

New haven america wrote:
Fahran wrote:1. Okay. Your definition is a bit off, but not terribly so.

1. Was Rush Limbaugh a totalitarian nationalist who believed that Jews secretly controlled the world and that Aryans were/are the master race? Or was he just a boisterous neocon with racist and sexist views?

1. Nope, tis not. Went through the most common definitions on several dictionaries.
2. You realize you don't need to be wearing an SS uniform and giving the "Heil Hitler" to have Nazi-based beliefs, correct?

And yes, he was a totalitarian nationalist and racist/sexist. Oh yeah, and he was a major QAnon spreader and claimed that the Dems allowed Charlottesville to happen for their own ends and to make the US right look bad.

Make of that what you will.

1) Well, I guess that depends on whether you count Neo-Nazism as Nazism. The two share characteristics but the latter is a largely-defunct ideology that was only really applicable in early-20th century Germany. I would probably give you the benefit of the doubt and count Neo-Nazism as a form of it.
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