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Postby Nilokeras » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:17 pm

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No longer relevant? Limbaugh cast a long shadow over the history of the last 30 years and the years to come. His death doesn't end that, and virtue signalling by prayer or well wishes to the family changes nothing. It serves only as a public declaration of 'virtue'.


And what exactly does denigrating a dead man do? Lmfao. You people don't even realize how ridiculous you sound, do you?


Denigrating him also does nothing. Except perhaps achieve a measure of catharsis.

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Postby Picairn » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:17 pm

Saiwania wrote:The fear and hatred is the feature and not the bug for a lot of people, myself included. Rush gave Conservative voters what they wanted in terms of commentary and political analysis and did much to break up the dark ages of the Fairness Doctrine and the Liberal monopoly on media in general within the US. His radio show was revolutionary when it debutted.

Imagine thinking the Fairness Doctrine brought us the dark ages.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:18 pm

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:
Herador wrote:[Snerdley was in it for the] money.


Mmmmmm-hmmmmm. -and the consistent shilling for Limbaugh and Limbaugh's policies?

For thirty years?

Have you thought that Limbaugh isn't a racist and just has off-the-cuff shock jock remarks?

-because he's a shock jock?

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Postby Fedel » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:18 pm

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If somebody were suggesting the things he said held merit, you might have a point, but given every other post in this thread not directly attacking the man was simply saying RIP or offering condolences to his family, you don't really have a leg to stand on with the argument that you're countering some sort of hateful influence.


I'm not countering some sort of hateful influence, I'm merely commenting on it. This idea of 'respect for the dead' only really applies to someone who's earned that respect.

He hasn't.


I didn't demand you offer respect. I commented on the pointlessness of expressing your hatred and vitriol for a dead man on a thread like this.

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Postby Necroghastia » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:19 pm

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I'm not countering some sort of hateful influence, I'm merely commenting on it. This idea of 'respect for the dead' only really applies to someone who's earned that respect.

He hasn't.


I didn't demand you offer respect. I commented on the pointlessness of expressing your hatred and vitriol for a dead man on a thread like this.

No more pointless than any other comment that could be made.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:20 pm

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I'm not countering some sort of hateful influence, I'm merely commenting on it. This idea of 'respect for the dead' only really applies to someone who's earned that respect.

He hasn't.


I didn't demand you offer respect. I commented on the pointlessness of expressing your hatred and vitriol for a dead man on a thread like this.


And it’s pointless to you but what? If they’re not breaking the site rules, why do you care how they feel about him?
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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:20 pm

Rush Limbaugh wrote:“When a gay person turns his back on you, it is anything but an insult; it’s an invitation.”


Nearly spit my drink out.

EDIT: No wait, I actually did spit my drink out. It's on my chin.
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Postby Diahon » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:21 pm

Nilokeras wrote:
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And what exactly does denigrating a dead man do? Lmfao. You people don't even realize how ridiculous you sound, do you?


Denigrating him also does nothing. Except perhaps achieve a measure of catharsis.


mmm catharsis

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plenty good, say

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Postby Fedel » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:22 pm

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It's not deflecting. It's pointing out blatant hypocrisy.

"But what about _______" is textbook deflecting, my conversation is with you and your reactions, not hers. You demand moral actions but display few, there's your hypocrisy.


I'm sorry, but conversations, especially on an internet forum, don't happen in a vacuum. The fact is, I suggested an alternative for their seemingly contradictory attitudes and statements that did not require outward malevolence on their part and professed that I could not think of a possibility outside of those two to explain the disparity myself. In my view, it was quite generous considering I could have assumed it was meant to be antagonistic without offering such a possible alternative.

I'm sorry if you view such a response as inadequate. Though I view your assumptions about my intent as strange when you did not question a similar post from the other person. Almost as if your standards are not applied consistently to all parties. Curious.

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Postby Fedel » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:23 pm

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And what exactly does denigrating a dead man do? Lmfao. You people don't even realize how ridiculous you sound, do you?


This is a comment board, we comment on things, little to nothing we comment on has any effect on anything so why make an example of commenting on this as requiring some higher purpose?


I feel that engaging with others is a way of both educating yourself and them while also helping to potentially convince someone of something.

I don't view these comments as serving any of these purposes.

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Postby TURTLESHROOM II » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:24 pm

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TURTLESHROOM II wrote:Money.


Mmmmmm-hmmmmm. -and the consistent shilling for Limbaugh and Limbaugh's policies?

For thirty years?

Still money.[/quote]

I interpret that statement as an insinsuation that a black man cannot sincerely be a rightist or agree with Limbaugh, much less be his friend or shill for him. That's not a very good light to cast. It reminds me of when Biden said that a black man who refused to vote in accordance with his opinions "ain't black".

I would never want to be friends with a man that hates me for being white, or who hates white people for the color of their skin. I have never known a black man who had a Klansman for a best friend. If Rush Limbaugh hated black people, Golden would have left decades ago.

Herschell Walker was best friends with Trump for decades and never once rejected him. If Trump hated blacks- he hates illegal aliens, which is not a race -

Rush Limbaugh is not now, nor has ever been a racist. I only know of one racist incident in his career, and that was when he aired a song called "Barack the Magic Negro" (a term coined by a man to the left of Obama). Snerdley was not a fan.

What Rush Limbaugh is is a radio shock jack. He makes inappropriate jokes and crude humor because he is a radio shock jock. Being an irreverent jack-A is part of the job and you don't listen to him for intellectual discussion. He was never a scholar or a gentleman, he was a shock jock.

I have listened to very little Limbaugh in my lifetime, and all of it second-hand. I can't make an informed opinion on Limbaugh because I have never actually sat down and listened to his radio show, but I can say with certainty that a political radio talk show is intended to be crass and offensive. They all are. It's why the phrase "shock jock" exists.

Rush Limbaugh was a media pioneer and one of the last radio legends before the Internet and advanced cable television put him to bed. I respect his contribution to the right-wing movement and his brash, unapologetic proclamation of propaganda, truth, and everything in between. He touched the lives of millions and caused nuclear butt hurt by millions more, as indicated by Jack's cherry picking and no-context demonstrations of single sentences.
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Postby Fedel » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:24 pm

Nilokeras wrote:
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And what exactly does denigrating a dead man do? Lmfao. You people don't even realize how ridiculous you sound, do you?


Denigrating him also does nothing. Except perhaps achieve a measure of catharsis.


Catharsis based on negative feelings is only harmful to oneself.

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"he wasn't ACTUALLY racist, he just said racist things because he got paid to!"
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Postby Fedel » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:25 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
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I didn't demand you offer respect. I commented on the pointlessness of expressing your hatred and vitriol for a dead man on a thread like this.


And it’s pointless to you but what? If they’re not breaking the site rules, why do you care how they feel about him?


Because they harm themselves and others by propagating an atmosphere of negativy, hatred and divisiveness.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:26 pm

Necroghastia wrote:"he wasn't ACTUALLY racist, he just said racist things because he got paid to!"
bruh


Tbf, I saw someone on social media post something similar to that. I stared at the post for a few minutes.
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Postby Nilokeras » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:26 pm

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Denigrating him also does nothing. Except perhaps achieve a measure of catharsis.


mmm catharsis

catharsis

plenty good, say


In the true Greek fashion too. This is the part of the play where the cymbols clash and aulos howl before the chorus sings a refrain about the true justice of the gods shining through in the end.
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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:26 pm

Necroghastia wrote:"he wasn't ACTUALLY racist, he just said racist things because he got paid to!"
bruh

Before he was famous he also got fired from his radio job in Sacramento for constantly talking about politics when he was supposed to be playing music. He wasn't acting racist because he was a "shock jock", he was a "shock jock" because he was a racist person.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:27 pm

Fedel wrote:
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And it’s pointless to you but what? If they’re not breaking the site rules, why do you care how they feel about him?


Because they harm themselves and others by propagating an atmosphere of negative, hatred and divisiveness.


To each their own. I fail to see why that isn’t understood.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:32 pm

He was a true American hero.

During his time as a radio personality, conservative political commentator, author, and television show host he chose to use his influence to promote American values, create unity (rather than division in America), promote the truth, and argue his political views in a way that’s fair, fact-focused, and approachable. Unlike many others in his position, he avoided easy (but unproductive) partisan stabs in favor of arguing his positions in a way that bridges gaps and deepens the public’s understandings of the social issue of the day.

Even though I don’t agree with him politically, I think that’s very respectable and commendable. RIP my friend. You will be missed.

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Postby Diahon » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:33 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:He was a true American hero.

During his time as a radio personality, conservative political commentator, author, and television show host he chose to use his influence to promote American values, create unity (rather than division in America), promote the truth, and argue his political views in a way that’s fair, fact-focused, and approachable. Unlike many others in his position, he avoided easy (but unproductive) partisan stabs in favor of arguing his positions in a way that bridges gaps and deepens the public’s understandings of the social issue of the day.

Even though I don’t agree with him politically, I think that’s very respectable and commendable. RIP my friend. You will be missed.


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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:33 pm

A lifetime or so ago I was driving somewhere the Limbaugh show was the only distraction from a flat, straight highway. He was bleating about "my sources in the [Clinton] White House" giving him the dope on some kerfuffle or other. But having driven from DC I knew that his sources was a week-old Maureen Dowd story on the front page of the Washington Post.

Limbaugh spent a career hypocritically spreading lies, hate, ignorance and fear among people who could have, but didn't bother to, know any better. He will not be missed. When the previous president awarded him that medal it was as good as him going to every other recipients' house and pissing on their shoes.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:35 pm

Diahon wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:He was a true American hero.

During his time as a radio personality, conservative political commentator, author, and television show host he chose to use his influence to promote American values, create unity (rather than division in America), promote the truth, and argue his political views in a way that’s fair, fact-focused, and approachable. Unlike many others in his position, he avoided easy (but unproductive) partisan stabs in favor of arguing his positions in a way that bridges gaps and deepens the public’s understandings of the social issue of the day.

Even though I don’t agree with him politically, I think that’s very respectable and commendable. RIP my friend. You will be missed.


good joke


I watched the show a few times and I have to say, he treated everyone (even opponents) respectfully. In today’s America, that’s rare.

Even though politically, personally can’t agree with him on everything

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Postby Necroghastia » Wed Feb 17, 2021 7:35 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:He was a true American hero.

During his time as a radio personality, conservative political commentator, author, and television show host he chose to use his influence to promote American values,

like?
create unity (rather than division in America),

ah yes, the racist, homophobic shock jock. vaunted promoter of unity.
promote the truth,

pretty sure we've been over what he said about nicotine already
and argue his political views in a way that’s fair,

no
fact-focused,

no
and approachable.

hell no
Unlike many others in his position, he avoided easy (but unproductive) partisan stabs

what? that's ALL he did lmao
in favor of arguing his positions in a way that bridges gaps and deepens the public’s understandings of the social issue of the day.

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