Rush Limbaugh dead at 70

[Fedel]

I would say it's more a way of developing a healthy outlook in the world and not allowing things that are no longer relevant to drag you or others down.

The things Limbaugh wrought are still quite relevant.

But he's not. That's the point. Condemn the hatred you believe he spawned. Not the man. It does less than nothing.

[Herador]

Again, it seems less like you care about a man's death and more about proving you're better, insultingly suggesting a person might be suffering from a potentially crippling mental illness just serves to prove the point. For all your talk of morals, you displaying shockingly few yourself.

Lmfao. Funny that you didn't comment anything when the other user suggested I should get counseling. You guys are a real bastion of consistent principles aren't you.

Quit deflecting, it doesn't make you look better.

[Major-Tom]

I won't say I agreed with the man's political/moral views or that I was near a fan, but lung cancer is an awful way to pass and it's sad to watch someone suffering through such a painful and debilitating illness. I'll keep Mr. Limbaugh's family in my prayers tonight and give voice to a hope that he passed away with some measure of peace and comfort.

He said smoking doesn't cause cancer and the Nicotine isn't addictive.

Of course, it's not addictive, I can quit whenever I want!

I just won't because....it's really fucking addictive.

[Nilokeras]

Forgiveness of the living can be a virtue. Forgiveness of the dead is idle vanity masquerading as moral superiority.

I would say it's more a way of developing a healthy outlook in the world and not allowing things that are no longer relevant to drag you or others down.

No longer relevant? Limbaugh cast a long shadow over the history of the last 30 years and the years to come. His death doesn't end that, and virtue signalling by prayer or well wishes to the family changes nothing. It serves only as a public declaration of 'virtue'.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Or holding to principles slightly more articulate than formalistic and empty civility.

I would call forgiveness and letting go of hatred for someone who is gone as being more important than showing off your wit by insulting a dead man myself, but that's just me.

Limbaugh was a racist who mocked gay people dying of AIDS and played a significant role in shaping the political status quo. We shouldn't forgive bad people after they die.

[Necroghastia]

The things Limbaugh wrought are still quite relevant.

But he's not. That's the point. Condemn the hatred you believe he spawned. Not the man. It does less than nothing.

Nah, I don't believe that one can "hate the sin and love the sinner." We are our actions and vice versa.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Again, it seems less like you care about a man's death and more about proving you're better, insultingly suggesting a person might be suffering from a potentially crippling mental illness just serves to prove the point. For all your talk of morals, you displaying shockingly few yourself.

Lmfao. Funny that you didn't comment anything when the other user suggested I should get counseling. You guys are a real bastion of consistent principles aren't you.

When I suggested counseling, I wasn’t implying you’re mentally ill, but if how people feel about a subject keeps you up a night, like you claimed, that’s not healthy. It denotes distress and you ought to talk to someone. Not sure how you jumped from that to other implications but boy! Here we are.

[Diahon]

The things Limbaugh wrought are still quite relevant.

But he's not. That's the point. Condemn the hatred you believe he spawned. Not the man. It does less than nothing.

condemning the thought without condemning the man is especially germane after 1/6/2021, don't you think?

[Fedel]

I would call forgiveness and letting go of hatred for someone who is gone as being more important than showing off your wit by insulting a dead man myself, but that's just me.

I mean.. we probably insulted him when he was living as well, it's just he kind of faded as a force so he wasn't relevant, his death makes him somewhat relevant again and so there's no reason not to remember what an awful human being he was. Otherwise what do we need to write here, just 'ok', or 'god bless him and his family'..

..he left a legacy that is part of why Trump came to power, the use of toxic partisanship and laughing at the poor, needy or disadvantaged to the point of gloating over their deaths.

He doesn't really deserve much respect.

If somebody were suggesting the things he said held merit, you might have a point, but given every other post in this thread not directly attacking the man was simply saying RIP or offering condolences to his family, you don't really have a leg to stand on with the argument that you're countering some sort of hateful influence.

[Saiwania]

The fear and hatred is the feature and not the bug for a lot of people, myself included. Rush gave Conservative voters what they wanted in terms of commentary and political analysis and did much to break up the dark ages of the Fairness Doctrine and the Liberal monopoly on media in general within the US. His radio show was revolutionary when it debutted.

[Neanderthaland]

A collection of Rush Limbaugh's greatest hits, for those who may be reading this thread and are unfamiliar with him...

This is James Golden, Rush Limbaugh's studio producer, manager, and broadcaster.

Please explain to me why a black man would stand in the presence of a racist for thirty years.

"How dare you insinuate the Nazis were racist! Would racists have a Black man in the Wehrmacht?"

[Fedel]

Lmfao. Funny that you didn't comment anything when the other user suggested I should get counseling. You guys are a real bastion of consistent principles aren't you.

Quit deflecting, it doesn't make you look better.

It's not deflecting. It's pointing out blatant hypocrisy.

[Necroghastia]

[Snerdley was in it for the] money.

Mmmmmm-hmmmmm. -and the consistent shilling for Limbaugh and Limbaugh's policies?

For thirty years?

Have you thought that Limbaugh isn't a racist and just has off-the-cuff shock jock remarks?

-because he's a shock jock?

heated gamer moments intensify
Give us a break.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

This is James Golden, Rush Limbaugh's studio producer, manager, and broadcaster.

Please explain to me why a black man would stand in the presence of a racist for thirty years.

"How dare you insinuate the Nazis were racist! Would racists have a Black man in the Wehrmacht?"

Ok now that? I didn’t know. Them having a black man in the Wehrmacht.

[Fedel]

I would say it's more a way of developing a healthy outlook in the world and not allowing things that are no longer relevant to drag you or others down.

No longer relevant? Limbaugh cast a long shadow over the history of the last 30 years and the years to come. His death doesn't end that, and virtue signalling by prayer or well wishes to the family changes nothing. It serves only as a public declaration of 'virtue'.

And what exactly does denigrating a dead man do? Lmfao. You people don't even realize how ridiculous you sound, do you?

[Diahon]

The fear and hatred is the feature and not the bug for a lot of people, myself included. Rush gave Conservative voters what they wanted and did much to break up the dark days of the Fairness Doctrine and the Liberal monopoly on media in general. His radio show was revolutionary when it debutted.

and there goes the unblemished record

[Bombadil]

I mean.. we probably insulted him when he was living as well, it's just he kind of faded as a force so he wasn't relevant, his death makes him somewhat relevant again and so there's no reason not to remember what an awful human being he was. Otherwise what do we need to write here, just 'ok', or 'god bless him and his family'..

..he left a legacy that is part of why Trump came to power, the use of toxic partisanship and laughing at the poor, needy or disadvantaged to the point of gloating over their deaths.

He doesn't really deserve much respect.

If somebody were suggesting the things he said held merit, you might have a point, but given every other post in this thread not directly attacking the man was simply saying RIP or offering condolences to his family, you don't really have a leg to stand on with the argument that you're countering some sort of hateful influence.

I'm not countering some sort of hateful influence, I'm merely commenting on it. This idea of 'respect for the dead' only really applies to someone who's earned that respect.

He hasn't.

[Herador]

Quit deflecting, it doesn't make you look better.

It's not deflecting. It's pointing out blatant hypocrisy.

"But what about _______" is textbook deflecting, my conversation is with you and your reactions, not hers. You demand moral actions but display few, there's your hypocrisy.

[Snerdley was in it for the] money.

Mmmmmm-hmmmmm. -and the consistent shilling for Limbaugh and Limbaugh's policies?

For thirty years?

Have you thought that Limbaugh isn't a racist and just has off-the-cuff shock jock remarks?

-because he's a shock jock?

His actions both on and off the air indicate otherwise. I'll stick with "money "

[The Reformed American Republic]

The fear and hatred is the feature and not the bug for a lot of people, myself included. Rush gave Conservative voters what they wanted in terms of commentary and political analysis and did much to break up the dark ages of the Fairness Doctrine and the Liberal monopoly on media in general within the US. His radio show was revolutionary when it debutted.

Revolutionary in securing the authority of corporate America.

[Fedel]

But he's not. That's the point. Condemn the hatred you believe he spawned. Not the man. It does less than nothing.

Nah, I don't believe that one can "hate the sin and love the sinner." We are our actions and vice versa.

I don't believe I ever suggested otherwise. I believe I suggested that the man himself is no longer relevant. Only whatever legacy remains from his actions. Attempting to denigrate a dead man on a site where the users either actively hate him or don't agree with what he's said and the remaining few who do agree won't change their mind is the definition of pointless and is a complete waste of time. It only burdens the individual with negative feelings.

[Bombadil]

No longer relevant? Limbaugh cast a long shadow over the history of the last 30 years and the years to come. His death doesn't end that, and virtue signalling by prayer or well wishes to the family changes nothing. It serves only as a public declaration of 'virtue'.

And what exactly does denigrating a dead man do? Lmfao. You people don't even realize how ridiculous you sound, do you?

This is a comment board, we comment on things, little to nothing we comment on has any effect on anything so why make an example of commenting on this as requiring some higher purpose?

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

It's not deflecting. It's pointing out blatant hypocrisy.

"But what about _______" is textbook deflecting, my conversation is with you and your reactions, not hers. You demand moral actions but display few, there's your hypocrisy.

And let me reiterate:

Lmfao. Funny that you didn't comment anything when the other user suggested I should get counseling. You guys are a real bastion of consistent principles aren't you.

When I suggested counseling, I wasn’t implying you’re mentally ill, but if how people feel about a subject keeps you up a night, like you claimed, that’s not healthy. It denotes distress and you ought to talk to someone. Not sure how you jumped from that to other implications but boy! Here we are.

[Benevolent Earth]

A collection of Rush Limbaugh's greatest hits, for those who may be reading this thread and are unfamiliar with him:

“Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”

“The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”

“Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.” - said to a black woman caller on his show.

“[Black Americans] are 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?”

“They’re out there protesting what they actually wish would happen to them sometimes.” - on women protesting sexual assault

"What does it say about the college co-ed Susan Fluke [sic] who goes before a congressional committee and essentially says that she must be paid to have sex — what does that make her? It makes her a slut, right? It makes her a prostitute.""So Miss Fluke and the rest of you feminazis, here’s the deal. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives and thus pay for you to have sex, we want something. We want you to post the videos online so we can all watch.”

“Let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do — let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work.”

“You just gotta be who you are, and I think it’s time to get rid of this whole National Basketball Association. Call it the TBA, the Thug Basketball Association, and stop calling them teams. Call ’em gangs.”

“Holocaust? Ninety million Indians? Only four million left? They all have casinos — what’s to complain about?”

“When a gay person turns his back on you, it is anything but an insult; it’s an invitation.”

"A lot of young people are spending a lot of time on the World Wide Web. I came across a post last night at, of all places, [Gawker] ... is a ... Basically it's a militant homosexual site, entertainment. Not militant. It's a gay site."

"In this commercial he is exaggerating the effects of the disease. He is moving all around and shaking and it’s purely an act. This is the only time I’ve ever seen Michael J. Fox portray any of the symptoms of the disease he has." - on Michael J Fox's Parkinson's disease.

Damn, he was fucked up!

Here's the chronology and the pathology. Limbaugh took to the air nationally in August 1988. The Conservative movement in the US was already winning the day. HW won election that year taking 40 states. George gave Limbaugh credit, even asking Rush to visit the White House, stay in the Lincoln Bedroom. Bush 41 even carried his bags in. However, 41 lost in 1992 but Rush assailed his successor unmercifully five days a week for the next two years. I'd mark the conservative movement's zenith as the 1994 midterm election. The ascension of Newt Gingrich as the Speaker of the first GOP led House in 40 years.

The juggernaut plateaued for a couple years but began a descent in 1996 with Clinton's big win over Bob Dole. But then Bill Clinton self destructed. A sex scandal resulted in his impeachment in 1998. Rush made all the hay he could on that matter. Shaming the Democrats as immoral. As a result, W got himself elected in 2000 with the SCOTUS 5-4 ruling over Gore in the Florida recount fiasco. The conservatives were once again emboldened and riding high, but then came 9/11. The policies which the Bush-Cheney administration adopted in response to the attack were much more reckless than conservative. In doing so they exploded the budget and sent the military into bungled operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. They failed to apprehend 9/11 mastermind Osama Bin Laden. Nevertheless, Rush cheered them on until it became an undeniable fiasco to the voting public. In the meantime, he also became addicted to Rx painkillers, buying them by the thousands. And nothing at all was 1980s conservative about any of that. None of it.

Since then (2006), the GOP has lost the House twice, lost the Senate twice, and their candidates for POTUS have lost the popular vote in four successive elections beginning in 2008. As Rush took his last breath weeks after the Capitol Riot, the conservative movement seems to have no sense of what is conservative. It fundamentally lost it's way fifteen years ago, morphing into a form of right wing radicalism. Abandoning Reaganism all together for the amoral madhouse of Trumpism. That is essentially the sad legacy which Rush Limbaugh leaves behind. Conservatism hasn't any meaning anymore.

[Neanderthaland]

"How dare you insinuate the Nazis were racist! Would racists have a Black man in the Wehrmacht?"

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Ok now that? I didn’t know. Them having a black man in the Wehrmacht.

You think that's bad.

There was one poor Korean guy who was forced to fight by the Japanese. Then got captured by the Soviets, and forced to fight the Germans. Then got captured by the Germans, and forced to fight the Allies in Normandy.

[Fedel]

But he's not. That's the point. Condemn the hatred you believe he spawned. Not the man. It does less than nothing.

condemning the thought without condemning the man is especially germane after 1/6/2021, don't you think?

It's pointless to do so and is only harmful to you.