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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.George Orwell wrote:“That rifle on the wall of the labourer's cottage or working class flat is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there.”
by Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:24 pm
by Kazarogkai » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:28 pm
Ethel mermania wrote:The democrat party needs to go through the same split, the progressive intellectuals and the more conservative union based portion of the party.
by Ethel mermania » Mon Feb 15, 2021 5:32 pm
Kazarogkai wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:The democrat party needs to go through the same split, the progressive intellectuals and the more conservative union based portion of the party.
Your forgetting the Clintonian corporatists. Aka Blue Reaganite wing of the part. I would argue there is far more at odds between them and the progressive than the Unionist and Progressives to be honest.
by The Lone Alliance » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:00 pm
by Chia Dal » Mon Feb 15, 2021 6:08 pm
Tokora wrote:Anyone who pays attention to US politics know that moderates and trumpists are fighting for the face of the Republican party with threats to otherwise leave, though trumpist dominance is the most likely outcome. If both sides make good on their threats and form two new parties with the Patriot party housing die hard Trump loyalists and Q-anon fanatics, the Lincoln party housing center-right pro-democracy moderates, and what's left of the GOP housing opportunists who oppose enfranchisement but see Trump as too much of a liability.
Besides Democrats having an advantage before the next election shifts the numbers, what is likely to happen from this split?
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by United Chinese Communes » Tue Feb 16, 2021 1:39 am
The Lone Alliance wrote:What's far more likely going to happen is the Lincoln project Neocons are going to join the Democratic party causing the Democratic party to turn into a party of white collar corporatism and middle to upper middle class social issues voters.
The Republican party depending on branding can either continue trying to mender along trying to regain the 90s fury, but in the aftermath of COVID I don't see "Government small enough to drown in a bathtub" working anymore, so what's likely to happen is they're going to have no choice but to continue the Trump poaching of the Conservative Unionist Democrats, but even that might not be enough to save them, it's possible that Democratic failures in the next few years will result in a weaning away from the middle class subrubia voters, who are the most swing voters in the country.
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by Garkland » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:48 am
Adamede wrote:They would all lose any form of political relevance.
The US political system has been a two party one for nearly its entire existence. One party flaking party isn’t going to change that.
by Dresderstan » Tue Feb 16, 2021 11:58 am
Garkland wrote:Adamede wrote:They would all lose any form of political relevance.
The US political system has been a two party one for nearly its entire existence. One party flaking party isn’t going to change that.
Then again the current situation reminds me of what became of the Whigs, as they were split on an issue and lost relevancy. I think if the GOP splits it will be better for all of us. People won't have to associate with such a broad party that may contain extremists they disagree with. The third-party can actually be a challenge and threat to other parties and gain strength. I predict in the next decade or two we will have a third-party candidate that will win the white house. It seems very likely.
by Giovenith » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:02 pm
by Dresderstan » Tue Feb 16, 2021 12:04 pm
Giovenith wrote:It would be political suicide for them and essentially hand the United States over to the Democrats for a large part of the foreseeable future.
Not that I'd complain too much about it, though nobody wants an unchallenged political force.
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