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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:14 pm

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It would be easier voting. This year I think I will vote blue instead of red.

Hell No. I strongly disagree with Biden and the Democrats on most issues. I strongly agree with President Trump and the Republicans on most issues.


That was a vague movie reference. Moon over Parador

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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:15 pm

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It would be easier voting. This year I think I will vote blue instead of red.

Hell No. I strongly disagree with Biden and the Democrats on most issues.


Even that's probably not true. There's a bunch of issues like social security and military spending, that the parties hardly ever argue about because they both agree.

Also what's in the news right now: Covid relief. Republicans were all for it last year, does them backflipping mean that you have too? Are checks from the government only a good idea if they have President Trump's signature on them?

I strongly agree with President Trump and the Republicans on most issues.


Also pretty doubtful. Republicans in power generally agree that Biden won last year's election. Trump doesn't. You can hardly claim to "strongly agree" with both.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:15 pm

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She seems incredibly happy to be voting no.

Democrat Kyrsten Sinema has a right to vote no and be happy about it. The other 7 Democrats who voted no have a right to vote no.


Yet McConnell was a traitor as were the other republicans who voted to impeach.

A good double standard you have there.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:25 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Democrat Kyrsten Sinema has a right to vote no and be happy about it. The other 7 Democrats who voted no have a right to vote no.


Yet McConnell was a traitor as were the other republicans who voted to impeach.

A good double standard you have there.

lol, I don't have any double standard, I stated at least a few times, they are free to vote any way they want to, and they did. But they have to answer to their base. I have seen a few posts and links, of Democrats or pro Democrats not happy the 8 Democrats disagreed with their base. I can probably find a link of angry Democrats to post it. No double standard from me, perhaps a double standard from Democrats and Democrat supporters, lol again.

1 - Are you unhappy?
2 - Are you mad?
3 - Are you angry?
4 - Are you unhappy, mad and angry?

Please answer the questions, thank you.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:38 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Yet McConnell was a traitor as were the other republicans who voted to impeach.

A good double standard you have there.

lol, I don't have any double standard, I stated at least a few times, they are free to vote any way they want to, and they did. But they have to answer to their base. I have seen a few posts and links, of Democrats or pro Democrats not happy the 8 Democrats disagreed with their base. I can probably find a link of angry Democrats to post it. No double standard from me, perhaps a double standard from Democrats and Democrat supporters, lol again.

1 - Are you unhappy?
2 - Are you mad?
3 - Are you angry?
4 - Are you unhappy, mad and angry?

Please answer the questions, thank you.


Yes you do:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:So the ex-president is angry at McConnell. Basically declared war on him and anybody who supports him.

Many of us want the Traitor Mitch McConnell replaced as Senate Republican Minority leader, for all the reasons I have posted about in details, not for the reasons you believe about us, what counts are our reasons not your reasons, since we are a considerable part of the Republican Party base, he was censured unanimously by the Kentucky Nelson county Republican Party, according to my research which I posted about with a post link. I cant believe you have not seen my post, but it is possible since these threads move so fast, and you and I log in and log out.
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:55 pm

Is this the "Sinema is a bourgeois asshole" thread?

It's been amazing to watch her piss away every single atom of goodwill she ever got for the past couple of days just to be part of that neat little group of democrats who still think it's pragmatic to starve the poor to pander to republicans.
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Postby Cultural Posadism » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:56 pm

Nevermind.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Mar 06, 2021 7:58 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:lol, I don't have any double standard, I stated at least a few times, they are free to vote any way they want to, and they did. But they have to answer to their base. I have seen a few posts and links, of Democrats or pro Democrats not happy the 8 Democrats disagreed with their base. I can probably find a link of angry Democrats to post it. No double standard from me, perhaps a double standard from Democrats and Democrat supporters, lol again.

1 - I wonder why on the question above?
2 - Are you unhappy?
3 - Are you mad?
4 - Are you angry?
5 - Are you unhappy, mad and angry?

Please answer the questions, thank you.


Yes you do:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Many of us want the Traitor Mitch McConnell replaced as Senate Republican Minority leader, for all the reasons I have posted about in details, not for the reasons you believe about us, what counts are our reasons not your reasons, since we are a considerable part of the Republican Party base, he was censured unanimously by the Kentucky Nelson county Republican Party, according to my research which I posted about with a post link. I cant believe you have not seen my post, but it is possible since these threads move so fast, and you and I log in and log out.

Here we go again, lol no I don't have a double standard, I stated at least a few times, they are free to vote any way they want to, and they did. But they should respect the wishes of their base.

I asked a very easy question If 7 Democrat had disagreed with the 43 Democrats and voted to acquit President Trump would their base be angry at them for doing so. No one wanted to answer the question, no one wanted to answer the question in context. I wonder why? I say Yes GMS.

To all persons on NS, Yes or No and you may add your opinions and comments, Please answer the questions, thank you.

1 - So now I ask if 8 Democrats disagreed with the Democrats and their base as they have done so, will their base be angry at them? I say Yes GMS.

I see you did not answer the easy questions, please answer the easy questions Yes or No, and you may give your opinions and comments, thank you.
1 - I wonder why?
2 - Are you unhappy?
3 - Are you mad?
4 - Are you angry?
5 - Are you unhappy, mad and angry?
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:07 pm

McConnell got at least 1, even 2 and arguably all 3 of the Supreme Court Justices which Trump is so ready to claim credit for. Nominating a Justice is donkey work: internet pundits had Barrett as the favorite before Trump even said anything. He may well have made the choice while watching Fox and Friends.

Actually bringing the nominee to the vote (or NOT) is skilled political work. It was McConnell, not Trump, who got Republicans three justices in just 4 years.

Saying that McConnell was a traitor to the party because he was less than decisive in impeaching Trump, or because he didn't support Trump's outrageous call for the Congress to dishonor electors from however many states would be necessary (5 or 6) to produce a fake win for Trump, is gross disloyalty to the Republican party.

GMS, it is plain dishonest to say you "strongly support" the Republican party, if you also "strongly support" Donald Trump. Calling the man who delivered the only lasting achievement of Trump's term (the 3 Justices) a "traitor" is just rank hypocrisy, and denial that even Mitch McConnell is a more honorable politician than One Time President Donald J. Trump.

You can't touch McConnell. So admit Trump lost, and worry more that he might lose in court and do time in prison!
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:13 pm

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:McConnell got at least 1, even 2 and arguably all 3 of the Supreme Court Justices which Trump is so ready to claim credit for. Nominating a Justice is donkey work: internet pundits had Barrett as the favorite before Trump even said anything. He may well have made the choice while watching Fox and Friends.

Actually bringing the nominee to the vote (or NOT) is skilled political work. It was McConnell, not Trump, who got Republicans three justices in just 4 years.

Saying that McConnell was a traitor to the party because he was less than decisive in impeaching Trump, or because he didn't support Trump's outrageous call for the Congress to dishonor electors from however many states would be necessary (5 or 6) to produce a fake win for Trump, is gross disloyalty to the Republican party.

GMS, it is plain dishonest to say you "strongly support" the Republican party, if you also "strongly support" Donald Trump. Calling the man who delivered the only lasting achievement of Trump's term (the 3 Justices) a "traitor" is just rank hypocrisy, and denial that even Mitch McConnell is a more honorable politician than One Time President Donald J. Trump.

You can't touch McConnell. So admit Trump lost, and worry more that he might lose in court and do time in prison!

lol, do I have a right to strongly disagree with your statement? Do we have a right to strongly disagree with your statement? I say we do have a right to strongly disagree.

I us and we strongly believe the opposite. I us and we know this based on my conversations with Proud, Republican Trump supporters.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:16 pm

Omniabstracta wrote:In a usual display of pettiness, Trump’s lawyers demand that the RNC and other conservative groups stop using his name and likeness, because they haven’t crucified Republicans who voted against him yet.

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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:19 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:To all persons on NS, Yes or No and you may add your opinions and comments, Please answer the questions, thank you.

1 - So now I ask if 8 Democrats disagreed with the Democrats and their base as they have done so, will their base be angry at them? I say Yes GMS.


I am not angry. The $15 amendment had been tried before, but was voluntarily withdrawn when Manchin said he wouldn't vote for it, then the Parliamentarian decreed that it would violate the Byrd Rule.

Putting it back was a dumb move by Sanders. The only way that would work is to pass a bill violating the Senate rules (mega dumb) or by sacking the Parliamentarian and gambling on getting a better ruling by her replacement (as Republicans did in 2017, and absolutely not a precedent to be honored).

I'm nearly as Left as Sanders himself, and even so I think I would have voted against that amendment. It was brainless bully posturing, and it speaks badly of Democratic Senators that so many voted FOR it. Really the best way to send Bernie a message would be to sit in silence ... ie abstain.


I see you did not answer the easy questions, please answer the easy questions Yes or No, and you may give your opinions and comments, thank you.
1 - I wonder why?
2 - Are you unhappy?
3 - Are you mad?
4 - Are you angry?
5 - Are you unhappy, mad and angry?


I'm not answering these questions, because they sound like the "getting to know you" questions of a telemarketer doing push polling for hair conditioner. And in any case, nothing about the subject.
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Postby Rusozak » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:21 pm



Super scummy and illegal, but who the hell is donating to Kanye's campaign fund, especially after the election? Maybe they deserve to be swindled.
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:24 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Omniabstracta wrote:In a usual display of pettiness, Trump’s lawyers demand that the RNC and other conservative groups stop using his name and likeness, because they haven’t crucified Republicans who voted against him yet.

Donald "Kirby Delauter" Trump!


Political nicknaming? But at least Delauter was fairly obscure, and didn't have a habit of putting his name on anything that can be bought for money. Even iirc, selling buildings on condition that his name stays on them.

Perhaps Trump has finally found something so worthless and toxic that it cheapens his brand to have his name on it: his political reputation!
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:41 pm

https://wabcradio.com/2021/03/06/fourth ... -behavior/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/third-form ... Qe9KBcxLQA

Fourth women and third aide accuses Cuomo of harassment. There is a allegedly a fifth but I can’t find official confirmation yet.

I will try to find a source from a network for the fourth allegation. If confirmed he needs to go immediately.
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:41 pm

Rusozak wrote:


Super scummy and illegal, but who the hell is donating to Kanye's campaign fund, especially after the election? Maybe they deserve to be swindled.

The same people making dumb TikToks. Definitely deserve to be swindled :p
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Postby Kowani » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:42 pm

Rusozak wrote:


Super scummy and illegal, but who the hell is donating to Kanye's campaign fund, especially after the election? Maybe they deserve to be swindled.

apparently, many of them wanted to sell it on their own at a markup and make a profit
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:42 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://wabcradio.com/2021/03/06/fourth-woman-third-cuomo-aide-speaks-out-on-inappropriate-behavior/

Fourth women accuses Cuomo of harassment. There is a allegedly a fifth but I can’t find official confirmation yet.

I will try to find a source from a network for the fourth allegation. If confirmed he needs to go immediately.

Unfortunately, he'll stay on, and many Democrats will hold him to a different standard than Republicans accused of similar conduct.
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Postby San Lumen » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:44 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://wabcradio.com/2021/03/06/fourth-woman-third-cuomo-aide-speaks-out-on-inappropriate-behavior/

Fourth women accuses Cuomo of harassment. There is a allegedly a fifth but I can’t find official confirmation yet.

I will try to find a source from a network for the fourth allegation. If confirmed he needs to go immediately.

Unfortunately, he'll stay on, and many Democrats will hold him to a different standard than Republicans accused of similar conduct.

We shall see. According to a recent poll a majority want him to resign.

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:51 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Unfortunately, he'll stay on, and many Democrats will hold him to a different standard than Republicans accused of similar conduct.

We shall see. According to a recent poll a majority want him to resign.

Indeed, let's hope for the best.
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Postby Dresderstan » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:54 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
San Lumen wrote:We shall see. According to a recent poll a majority want him to resign.

Indeed, let's hope for the best.

He won't resign.

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Postby Kowani » Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:55 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://wabcradio.com/2021/03/06/fourth-woman-third-cuomo-aide-speaks-out-on-inappropriate-behavior/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/third-form ... Qe9KBcxLQA

Fourth women and third aide accuses Cuomo of harassment. There is a allegedly a fifth but I can’t find official confirmation yet.

I will try to find a source from a network for the fourth allegation. If confirmed he needs to go immediately.

Confirming other allegations
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:20 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:Indeed, let's hope for the best.

He won't resign.

Franken did, for a lot less.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:23 pm

Kowani wrote:
San Lumen wrote:https://wabcradio.com/2021/03/06/fourth-woman-third-cuomo-aide-speaks-out-on-inappropriate-behavior/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/third-form ... Qe9KBcxLQA

Fourth women and third aide accuses Cuomo of harassment. There is a allegedly a fifth but I can’t find official confirmation yet.

I will try to find a source from a network for the fourth allegation. If confirmed he needs to go immediately.

Confirming other allegations


Yea....time to investigate and most likely bring charges.

It will be interesting to hear the repubs comments. I am sure they will be all “hang him”
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