American Politics IV: 1400 Reasons Why(A Stimulus Serial)

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Put someone who isn't a career politician in office and who does not have ties to the political elite. They'd be more in touch with the average citizen than, say, a Congressman/woman in a multimillion dollar mansion. Have an election with average candidates. See what happens.

We literally just tried that and he was sabotaged every step of the way.

>Trump, a literal wealthy New York coastal elite with well documented ties to the political elite.
>Average citizen
Fucking lol.

[Corrian]

Probably, because we're a useless country.


Saw that. I wonder if he sees his chances are slim or what. Because I legit think he's probably the most vulnerable.

Oh he is, but Toomey's seat in PA is even more slim.

I'm unsure on that, just because of Ron Johnson's special kind of crazy.

[Corrian]

You think it can flip?

Yes, considering it was the closest Republican held seat in 2016, but all depends on a number of issues, chief of which is turnout.

Which Democrats are actively trying to ruin.

[San Lumen]

Yes, considering it was the closest Republican held seat in 2016, but all depends on a number of issues, chief of which is turnout.

Which Democrats are actively trying to ruin.

Yes they want to lose congress. What a ridiculous statement.

[Dresderstan]

Yes, considering it was the closest Republican held seat in 2016, but all depends on a number of issues, chief of which is turnout.

Which Democrats are actively trying to ruin.

True, but then again Toomey is retiring making the seat wide open.

[Corrian]

Which Democrats are actively trying to ruin.

Yes they want to lose congress. What a ridiculous statement.

I mean if they don't they should stop trying to.

Which Democrats are actively trying to ruin.

True, but then again Toomey is retiring making the seat wide open.

I'm unsure who that actually helps personally, when people retire. Especially if they're already unpopular as is.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

Then it goes to court, and the $15 is stripped from the passed and signed legislation.

Republicans fired the Parliamentarian to get the 2017 tax cuts passed through reconciliation. If the supreme court wanted to stop the $15 minimum wage they could just rule it as unconstitutional no matter which bill it's in (a possibility).

Reconciliation is a Senate rule. Just "ignoring" the Parliamentarian would mean breaking a Senate rule. Now I can't think of a precedent, but I'm pretty sure the Supreme Court can hear partisan challenges to a law which was not legally passed.

Sacking the Parliamentarian might work, though I suspect the new one would just check the figures used by the old one and then rule the same way. In any case, you'd have to bring the amendment to a vote again. As you say, it's a possibility, but not one worth delaying the Covid bill for.

And for that you get a massive political defeat ("remember when Democrats tried to destroy the economy with an extreme AND ILLEGAL minimum wage rise? Vote Mnuchin for NY 18th!") which will make it much harder to pass any minimum wage rise in the future.

Uh no, a $15 minimum wage is quite popular even among Republicans.

Weirdly it doesn't seem to have become polarized yet. The lack of even one R Senator in favor though, shows they expect it to.

At some stage Dems should give some ground on the number, in exchange for indexation, which has only mild budgetary effects over 10 years, but would mean a small increase every year and never having to fight this battle again.

Less than a living wage, indexed so that they can never revisit it?

Indexation has almost no impact on the budget, even over ten years. There's no good argument for it causing unemployment, and the inflationary effect would be miniscule. It does stop the escalation of popular demand for a real raise, but as you note the majority already support a quite substantial raise (and even more would support at least $10) so why would that demand ever decrease with small CPI increases each year?

Raising the base rate can be done any time in the future, when Democrats have a sufficient majority. The demand won't be any more (if there's indexation) but it won't be any less either. Or, as I think is more likely, Moderate Republicans will neutralize the votes of Manchin and Sinema for a compromise like $12 mw.

Republicans have also shown sympathy for subsidizing low wages in the past. Earned Income Tax Credit is a de facto wage subsidy. This could improve the lot of low wage workers in those barbarous states which don't actually recognize Federal minimum wages.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Republicans fired the Parliamentarian to get the 2017 tax cuts passed through reconciliation. If the supreme court wanted to stop the $15 minimum wage they could just rule it as unconstitutional no matter which bill it's in (a possibility).

Reconciliation is a Senate rule. Just "ignoring" the Parliamentarian would mean breaking a Senate rule. Now I can't think of a precedent, but I'm pretty sure the Supreme Court can hear partisan challenges to a law which was not legally passed.

Sacking the Parliamentarian might work, though I suspect the new one would just check the figures used by the old one and then rule the same way. In any case, you'd have to bring the amendment to a vote again. As you say, it's a possibility, but not one worth delaying the Covid bill for.

Senate rules aren't laws, it's why they can be changed on a whim. There's nothing you could bring a court case over if the Dems did anything like that, it would just set precedent the GOP can do it too.

[Kowani]

Three men convicted of murdering an off-duty police officer and a business owner nearly 25 years ago were released from prison Friday after a judge declared they were wrongfully convicted because evidence that may have exonerated them was "deliberately withheld" from their lawyers.

[Dresderstan]

Three men convicted of murdering an off-duty police officer and a business owner nearly 25 years ago were released from prison Friday after a judge declared they were wrongfully convicted because evidence that may have exonerated them was "deliberately withheld" from their lawyers.

I assume those lawyers who withheld has/will be disbarred for a clear Brady violation.

[Greater Cesnica]

Three men convicted of murdering an off-duty police officer and a business owner nearly 25 years ago were released from prison Friday after a judge declared they were wrongfully convicted because evidence that may have exonerated them was "deliberately withheld" from their lawyers.

I assume those lawyers who withheld has/will be disbarred for a clear Brady violation.

We can only hope so.

[Kowani]

Senate rejects Bernie’s proposal to raise the minimum wage

Voting against: All republicans, 7 democrats, and 1 independent

Joe Manchin (D-WV), Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ), Jon Tester (D-MT), Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Maggie Hassan (D-NH), Chris Coons (D-DE) Tom Carper (D-DE) and Angus King (I-ME)

The video of Sinema voting is liquefying my brain.

Sinema is now claiming that commenting on her body language is "sexist"

[Washington Resistance Army]

The video of Sinema voting is liquefying my brain.

Sinema is now claiming that commenting on her body language is "sexist"

What a joke lol

[Loeje]

The video of Sinema voting is liquefying my brain.

Sinema is now claiming that commenting on her body language is "sexist"

Maybe it is, but she seems too happy about her vote. Commenting on that should be okay.

[Galloism]

The video of Sinema voting is liquefying my brain.

Sinema is now claiming that commenting on her body language is "sexist"

Turns out bad defenses are still bad defenses.

[Kowani]

Also, the New York Legislatures have both voted to strip Cuomo of his emergency powers. [43-20(Senate)], [ 107-43(House)]

[Kowani]

Senate rejects Bernie’s proposal to raise the minimum wage

Voting against: All republicans, 7 democrats, and 1 independent

Joe Manchin (D-WV), Kyrsten Sinema (D-AZ), Jon Tester (D-MT), Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH), Maggie Hassan (D-NH), Chris Coons (D-DE) Tom Carper (D-DE) and Angus King (I-ME)

The video of Sinema voting is liquefying my brain.

In the full version, she pats McConnell on the back to let him know she's going to vote against before the fucking thumbs down dance shit

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

Sinema is now claiming that commenting on her body language is "sexist"

Uh...what? No, it isn't. Body language is a pretty large part of nonverbal communication.

Also, the New York Legislatures have both voted to strip Cuomo of his emergency powers. [43-20(Senate)], [ 107-43(House)]

I don't know why the media has done a 180 on their view of him. They literally gave the guy an Emmy for...uh. IDK, getting power-happy.

[Kowani]

Three men convicted of murdering an off-duty police officer and a business owner nearly 25 years ago were released from prison Friday after a judge declared they were wrongfully convicted because evidence that may have exonerated them was "deliberately withheld" from their lawyers.

I assume those lawyers who withheld has/will be disbarred for a clear Brady violation.

well, the DA in question is dead
so no

[Galloism]

I assume those lawyers who withheld has/will be disbarred for a clear Brady violation.

well, the DA in question is dead
so no

Cadaver synod when

[Kowani]

also, they just renegotiated the covid bill again

They will now offer an amendment to extend the enhanced UI benefits through September 6 at $300/week — a month less than Carper amendment
The agreement will still make the first $10,200 of UI benefits non-taxable but ONLY to households with incomes under $150k

[Galloism]

also, they just renegotiated the covid bill again

They will now offer an amendment to extend the enhanced UI benefits through September 6 at $300/week — a month less than Carper amendment
The agreement will still make the first $10,200 of UI benefits non-taxable but ONLY to households with incomes under $150k

More cash for Gallo who gets paid to figure all this crap out.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Democrats: We'll change things, just vote blue!

[The Black Forrest]

Democrats: We'll change things, just vote blue!

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Republicans: Trust us. Giving lots of money to the wealthy class will benefit you!

[Alcala-Cordel]

Democrats: We'll change things, just vote blue!

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Republicans: Trust us. Giving lots of money to the wealthy class will benefit you!

Pretty much