The sculptor is a trump supporter, i don't know why they'd regret anything about this
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by Kowani » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:02 am
by A-Series-Of-Tubes » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:07 am
Kowani wrote:A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
I imagine the sculptor is regretting that they used a Biblical reference to make fun of Trump. On the other hand, they probably got paid which is hitting above average.
The sculptor is a trump supporter, i don't know why they'd regret anything about this
by Kowani » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:17 am
by Odreria » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:34 am
Sundiata wrote:Dresderstan wrote:It's elitist to pay for champagne, caviar and have it all on one's yacht while people millions starve and struggle with homelessness.
I'm not some apathetic elite. Really? Do you really think I drink champagne on my yacht in disgust for the poor? I'm not out of touch with humanity. I am in touch with humanity. Coal mining jobs aren't coming back.
Valrifell wrote:
Disregard whatever this poster says
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:20 am
by New haven america » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:25 am
by A-Series-Of-Tubes » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:30 am
by Kilobugya » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:39 am
by The Black Forrest » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:41 am
Dresderstan wrote:San Lumen wrote:or perhaps people decided they didn't;t like the third parties. what is your issue with RCV?
Or the parties keep pushing fear and propaganda against third parties to the people creating this ever growing partisan divide in this country. You still haven't proven to me smaller parties have won.
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:46 am
1-I would not want governments to spend people's money on the politics of other countries.
by The Black Forrest » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:48 am
Cannot think of a name wrote:
Wait, that was a real thing? I thought you guys were kidding about that, I didn't know they had a literal golden idol. That's...wow.
by Kilobugya » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:51 am
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:1-Is it correct to do the politics of another country in America, is it in accordance with the values of conscience ? (American Government)
2-Is it correct for a private company to advertise so the politics of another country after all ?
by The Black Forrest » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:54 am
Kilobugya wrote:Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:1-Is it correct to do the politics of another country in America, is it in accordance with the values of conscience ? (American Government)
2-Is it correct for a private company to advertise so the politics of another country after all ?
As long as it's "just" propaganda at home, I don't mind. It's covered by freedom of speech, and the harm done is limited, unless it's direct libel (such as accusing a foreign leader of crimes you know are wrong/you don't have any evidence for).
What bothers me more is when US corporations or US government branches finance and support political parties in foreign countries and mess up in electoral process abroad, something which is explicitly forbidden by US laws the other way around (say, Venezuela can't contribute anything to an electoral campaign in the US, but US corporations and government agencies can massively meddle in Venezuela electoral process).
by Nakena » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:55 am
Kilobugya wrote:Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:1-Is it correct to do the politics of another country in America, is it in accordance with the values of conscience ? (American Government)
2-Is it correct for a private company to advertise so the politics of another country after all ?
As long as it's "just" propaganda at home, I don't mind. It's covered by freedom of speech, and the harm done is limited, unless it's direct libel (such as accusing a foreign leader of crimes you know are wrong/you don't have any evidence for).
What bothers me more is when US corporations or US government branches finance and support political parties in foreign countries and mess up in electoral process abroad, something which is explicitly forbidden by US laws the other way around (say, Venezuela can't contribute anything to an electoral campaign in the US, but US corporations and government agencies can massively meddle in Venezuela electoral process).
by Stellar Colonies » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:57 am
Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
Primitive Communism wrote:What bodily autonomy do men need?
Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
Khardsland wrote:Terrorism in its original definition is a good thing.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by A-Series-Of-Tubes » Thu Mar 04, 2021 1:58 am
The Black Forrest wrote:Dresderstan wrote:Or the parties keep pushing fear and propaganda against third parties to the people creating this ever growing partisan divide in this country. You still haven't proven to me smaller parties have won.
Nah. That’s just a convenient conspiracy theory often brought up on why third parties can’t take over. I guess it feels better to say the two elder parties are working together to make sure they can’t make it rather then admit they can’t sell it.
Part of the problem is they really don’t have a message to make people switch over. A message that will get people past “The devil you know” kind of reasoning. It doesn’t help when the third parties go on about intelligence, etc. of these people.
Anyway......
by The Black Forrest » Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:00 am
Stellar Colonies wrote:A nonsensical comedy provides another laugh.Kowani wrote:indeed we were not
embrace idolatry
"Blessed Exchequer, forgive us, your people have gone astray."
by Kilobugya » Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:04 am
Nakena wrote:Theres various foreign actors being actively involved in US electoral politics. They are just not always visible. And it isnt just russian interference, but also countless smaller ones. Oh and we haven't even talked about AIPAC.
by Kowani » Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:05 am
In February, federal prosecutors arrested several members of the Oath Keepers – an anti-government militia group – on charges related to participating in the riot at the Capitol on January 6.
Prosecutors alleged that the Oath Keeper members had planned part of their attack. They wore tactical gear, held training sessions in the weeks before, and looked at then-President Donald Trump’s direction for their assault on Congress, prosecutors laid out in court documents.
One part of the Oath Keepers’ plan, prosecutors said, citing text messages, was having a “QRF,” or “quick reaction force,” nearby that could supply firearms to militia members “if something goes to hell.”
But that “quick reaction force” was actually just one guy who “is in his late 60s, obese, and has cardiopulmonary issues, a bad back, a bum knee, and is [in] need of a hip replacement,” according to a new court filing.
by The Black Forrest » Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:05 am
A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
Nah. That’s just a convenient conspiracy theory often brought up on why third parties can’t take over. I guess it feels better to say the two elder parties are working together to make sure they can’t make it rather then admit they can’t sell it.
Part of the problem is they really don’t have a message to make people switch over. A message that will get people past “The devil you know” kind of reasoning. It doesn’t help when the third parties go on about intelligence, etc. of these people.
Anyway......
(Poster Dresder is on a ban, btw).
Please read my post about the difference between the House of Representatives and the Senate in Australia. Both use the transferrable vote, but the Senate has enough representation of smaller parties that there is almost never an outright majority for one party.
The only significant difference is that House members are elected one at a time (one per division/district) while Senators are elected six at a time (top six for each state).
STV makes very little difference, if not even the party coming second gets representation. Small parties have to go from third, directly to first, because their supporters get no more satisfaction from second place than from third. Second place is a barrier to growth in their support: it's first place or most of the supporters will desert.
PR rewards second place (in proportion of course: "second prize" is less) and even third or fourth places. And because there is rarely a one-party majority in government, even single-member parties and independents give their supporters some satisfaction by sometimes being part of a governing coalition.
by Stellar Colonies » Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:06 am
The Black Forrest wrote:Stellar Colonies wrote:A nonsensical comedy provides another laugh.
"Blessed Exchequer, forgive us, your people have gone astray."
Yup. Nobody takes them serious. They pop up every few years.
Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
Primitive Communism wrote:What bodily autonomy do men need?
Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
Khardsland wrote:Terrorism in its original definition is a good thing.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by A-Series-Of-Tubes » Thu Mar 04, 2021 2:34 am
The Black Forrest wrote:A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
(Poster Dresder is on a ban, btw).
Please read my post about the difference between the House of Representatives and the Senate in Australia. Both use the transferrable vote, but the Senate has enough representation of smaller parties that there is almost never an outright majority for one party.
The only significant difference is that House members are elected one at a time (one per division/district) while Senators are elected six at a time (top six for each state).
STV makes very little difference, if not even the party coming second gets representation. Small parties have to go from third, directly to first, because their supporters get no more satisfaction from second place than from third. Second place is a barrier to growth in their support: it's first place or most of the supporters will desert.
PR rewards second place (in proportion of course: "second prize" is less) and even third or fourth places. And because there is rarely a one-party majority in government, even single-member parties and independents give their supporters some satisfaction by sometimes being part of a governing coalition.
I saw that after that post.
That may work with Australia. How long has that been in place?
Still falls under the devil you know line of thinking. Some of the parties are outright wackados. The thought of them in government wouldn’t motivate people for change.
by A-Series-Of-Tubes » Thu Mar 04, 2021 3:58 am
by Kilobugya » Thu Mar 04, 2021 4:24 am
A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:How would PR work in the US House? Not badly overall, though it would utterly fail for the least populous states.
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