American Politics IV: 1400 Reasons Why(A Stimulus Serial)

[Kowani]

Family members of South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem (R) received over $600,000 in funds from a state grant program pushed by the governor that directed federal coronavirus relief funds to small businesses

[Sundiata]

But will he? No, because he's not fighting. Just like he didn't fight for the $15 dollar minimum wage and capitulated to an unelected senate parliamentarian. We're being duped.

And you're surprised about this? We saw this coming from the moment he won the nomination.

I had hope he really would understand. I mean, his son died of cancer. He knows how expensive things like that can be. It's time for a public option.

[Umeria]

Our elections are neither free nor fair anyone until we get a PR system.

And what are you doing to get it? Nothing. Get a referendum on the ballot.

You support the electoral processes much more than he does, why don't you do it?

[San Lumen]

And what are you doing to get it? Nothing. Get a referendum on the ballot.

Referenda mean nothing, only force by any means necessary

Referendum is the only way your going to get what you want unless you want to wind up prison like those who stormed the Capitol.

[Greater Cesnica]

Family members of South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem (R) received over $600,000 in funds from a state grant program pushed by the governor that directed federal coronavirus relief funds to small businesses

The Republicans have never cared about small businesses.

[San Lumen]

And what are you doing to get it? Nothing. Get a referendum on the ballot.

You support the electoral processes much more than he does, why don't you do it?

My state does not allow for citizen initiated amendments.

[Sundiata]

No I wouldn't. Id like to have free and fair elections where gerrymandering is illegal and anyone who is citizen over 18 years old and registered can cast a vote without any interference and to have that vote counted.

Our elections are neither free nor fair anyone until we get a PR system.

Actually, ranked choice voting.

[Dresderstan]

Referenda mean nothing, only force by any means necessary

Referendum is the only way your going to get what you want unless you want to wind up prison like those who stormed the Capitol.

We are a country born in the fire of revolution against a tyrannical government, the people have every right to bring down such a tyrannical force again at home that has corrupted the nation from it's core, and both parties are to blame for it.

[Greater Cesnica]

And you're surprised about this? We saw this coming from the moment he won the nomination.

I had hope he really would understand. I mean, his son died of cancer. He knows how expensive things like that can be. It's time for a public option.

Dude, he's an elitist hack. No one should have ever fallen for his "old humble Joe" ploy. It's not as if Biden ever had to scrounge for expenses when it came to his son's cancer battle.

[Dresderstan]

Our elections are neither free nor fair anyone until we get a PR system.

Actually, ranked choice voting.

No.

[San Lumen]

Our elections are neither free nor fair anyone until we get a PR system.

Actually, ranked choice voting

I have no issue with that. a number of cities in the US use that method. Burlington, Vermont recently joined the ranks. Maine and Alaska both used ranked choice voting. In Alaska it will go into effect for the first time next year.

[Dresderstan]

I had hope he really would understand. I mean, his son died of cancer. He knows how expensive things like that can be. It's time for a public option.

Dude, he's an elitist hack. No one should have ever fallen for his "old humble Joe" ploy. It's not as if Biden ever had to scrounge for expenses when it came to his son's cancer battle.

Meanwhile how many thousands if not millions around the world still die of multiple different forms of cancer?

[Sundiata]

Actually, ranked choice voting.

No.

What don't you like about democracy?

[Dresderstan]

Actually, ranked choice voting

I have no issue with that. a number of cities in the US use that method. Burlington, Vermont recently joined the ranks. Maine and Alaska both used ranked choice voting. In Alaska it will go into effect for the first time next year.

Not good enough, it's PR or nothing.

[San Lumen]

Referendum is the only way your going to get what you want unless you want to wind up prison like those who stormed the Capitol.

We are a country born in the fire of revolution against a tyrannical government, the people have every right to bring down such a tyrannical force again at home that has corrupted the nation from it's core, and both parties are to blame for it.

Go start your revolution then in the state capital.

Actually, ranked choice voting.

No.

What's wrong with ranked choice?

[Dresderstan]

No.

What don't you like about democracy?

PR is more democratic than RCV

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

And what are you doing to get it? Nothing. Get a referendum on the ballot.

Referenda mean nothing, only force by any means necessary

The cheering crowd falls silent, and some of them sit down, as Cyrius "Fidel" Tubes begins to explain the new Jungle Proportional Representation Without Rounding system ... again.

[Umeria]

You support the electoral processes much more than he does, why don't you do it?

My state does not allow for citizen initiated amendments.

So what I'm hearing is there are some things that can't be solved by voting?

[Dresderstan]

We are a country born in the fire of revolution against a tyrannical government, the people have every right to bring down such a tyrannical force again at home that has corrupted the nation from it's core, and both parties are to blame for it.

Go start your revolution then in the state capital.

No.

What's wrong with ranked choice?

Not real democracy, every vote matters with PR any other system it's a waste of a vote.

[Greater Cesnica]

No.

What don't you like about democracy?

I can't speak for Dres, but the most feasible argument against democracy is the potential of "tyranny by majority". That being said, democratic governance, to the extent that is truly uncorrupted, is absolutely the best means of governance that we have as of now.

[San Lumen]

My state does not allow for citizen initiated amendments.

So what I'm hearing is there are some things that can't be solved by voting?

You can elect people who support the changes you want. That;'s how we updated New York's outdated voting laws.

[The Marlborough]

No.

What don't you like about democracy?

It's not always the best form of government for a society especially a mass society.

[Picairn]

PR is more democratic than RCV

Both are better than FPTP. I'd settle for RCV as a compromise, until all states' election systems are done with FPTP.

[Sundiata]

What don't you like about democracy?

PR is more democratic than RCV

I have never heard that much malarkey. Not even a little bit. Ranked choice voting eliminates the problem of the "lesser of two evils."

Voters really get to vote their conscience.

[San Lumen]

PR is more democratic than RCV

Both are better than FPTP. I'd settle for RCV as a compromise, until all states' election systems are done with FPTP.

RCV is a perfect compromise in my view and I don't see why people dislike it. No vote is wasted.