American Politics IV: 1400 Reasons Why(A Stimulus Serial)

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Apparently, one of the CPAC speakers is part of a Japanese cult that believes its leader is the reincarnation of an alien from Venus who created life on earth millions of years ago who channels the power of various gods and public figures

At this point the Republican Party isn't just an extremist party. It's the party of the criminally insane, considering that they're also known for MTG aka the lady who thinks Jewish space lasers are a thing. Thanks Trump. You turned the party of bad ideas into the party of the wacky races, thereby condemning the GOP to be one huge joke and embarrassment for all eternity.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Let me stop you there. Your friend had to quit her job, because the package of wages and benefits her employer was prepared to offer, was less than the package of welfare and benefits the government offered?

So she went from (maybe) 20 hours a week, to Zero hours a week, with a raise?

Look out capitalist scum. Big Government is gonna take all your jobs!

You can't think of a reason why a single mother with a serious health condition might, you know.
Not work longer than 3 days a week?

Good point, but in this particular case that is not the case and the reasons I stated on my original posts stand. I have a feeling Tubes can.

[San Lumen]

https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-ne ... 6b-surplus

Minnesota's budget outlook improves, now projecting $1.6B surplus

The state was projecting a $1.3 billion deficit in November. Economic recovery there is overall going well.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Republican Governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis:
“I saw that weather forecast. We’re in the mid-60s. Most of the other states are in the 30s and 40s, so I’d take 65 with a whiff of freedom over 35 under the yoke of lockdown any day of the week and twice on Sunday,”

DeSantis said of other states’ restrictive measures. “Yeah, look, we led, we went against the grain, we had a lot of opposition, particularly from the corporate media, but our kids are in school, parents are happy with that, our economy is growing, people are working.

And they were predicting economic doom, particularly for Floriday because we’re tourism-based, and our tourism isn’t backed by any stretch, and yet we’re getting huge revenue into the state with no tax increases, we’re going to have a budget surplus, and we’re clicking on all cylinders.

We’re doing more on the vaccines for senior citizens, but I would rather be in Florida than just about any other state right now.

We need to open up all the states economies while practicing all the necessary health guide lines we all know in details. I love to read the comments of all the posters on all kinds of news sites. We can comment on them in general terms not specific terms, since they are not here to respond to our comments. We cant quote them for the same reasons.

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/02 ... -the-week/

[Kowani]

Pelosi to go on with the minimum wage increase anyway

[Atheris]

Pelosi to go on with the minimum wage increase anyway

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Omniabstracta]

Pelosi to go on with the minimum wage increase anyway

I mean, that won’t really change anything. The bill the Senate passes won’t include it, and when it comes back to the House for the second, reconciliation vote, they’ll pass it without it anyway.

[Diahon]

Apparently, one of the CPAC speakers is part of a Japanese cult that believes its leader is the reincarnation of an alien from Venus who created life on earth millions of years ago who channels the power of various gods and public figures

I was worried for a second that it was Aleph.

ah, but qanon is but an american aleph, and i wouldn't be surprised if aleph will have gone out of its way to interact with the gop through its overseas criminal affiliates

i'm not gonna say aum, for trump is aum, or rather shoko, had shoko actually become prime minister

indeed, where shoko failed to build significant support for his cult among the ldp elite, trump has succeeded among republicans; where shoko failed to evade law enforcement after 1995, trump has done so, with the help of the gop; and where a turning point for mass perception for aum, as well as the continued freedom and eventually existence for its leadership, was reached with the subway attack and its aftermath, not even the willful destruction of hundreds of thousands in the name of "freedom" (trump's continued freedom, of course) has shifted american perception decisively towards incarcerations and executions -- only a mass media campaign to snuff out further propaganda about the 2020 elections (that didn't stick), a political mandate to at least bar trump from further forays into public office (that also didn't stick) and the suppression and subsequent constant monitoring of the party responsible for the attack (that hasn't even fucking happened)

and let me be unequivocal here -- the party responsible for the attack was the republican party -- the party of lincoln, teddy roosevelt, hoover, eisenhower, nixon, reagan...

... and that human-shaped abyss, the mortal threat to american democracy

[Kowani]

Pelosi to go on with the minimum wage increase anyway

I mean, that won’t really change anything. The bill the Senate passes won’t include it, and when it comes back to the House for the second, reconciliation vote, they’ll pass it without it anyway.

Not quite how that works
If the two bills are different, both chambers have to set up a special conference to try and work out the different versions. It doesn’t just “go back to the House”

[Andsed]

A very dear friend of mine is very upset over the proposed minimum wage increase.

...She supports the increase in principle but her life is basically going to get ridiculously more difficult as a result of it and It strikes me that she's probably not alone. There are probably people for whom the wage increase is absolutely not worth being pushed above the state aid cutoff point.

Well, one argument people might have is: why don't she obtain some skills and qualify for far above the minimum wage in terms of wages so that she can eventually afford to pay more of everything herself? Is she just a loser or less capable in some way, if she only aspires to be on government assistance for life and be subject to the whims of whoever happens to be in power in Washington DC?

People normally are impressed more with those who take fuller responsibility for their life and proactively do the work/efforts needed to actually become rich or make some economic progress over time than they would if they do nothing or grow content with their present circumstances if they're not already doing well.

You ever hear of this thing called "living paycheck to paycheck?" Because that tends to make getting an education extremely difficult.

[Omniabstracta]

I mean, that won’t really change anything. The bill the Senate passes won’t include it, and when it comes back to the House for the second, reconciliation vote, they’ll pass it without it anyway.

Not quite how that works
If the two bills are different, both chambers have to set up a special conference to try and work out the different versions. It doesn’t just “go back to the House”

I realize. But the Senate will never pass a bill that includes the $15 minimum wage. The bill will leave the conference committee without it, otherwise the bill would die in the second Senate vote, and when it does get sent out, the House will pass it in their second vote anyway. The Democrats are not going to be willing to kill the entire bill over this.

[San Lumen]

Not quite how that works
If the two bills are different, both chambers have to set up a special conference to try and work out the different versions. It doesn’t just “go back to the House”

I realize. But the Senate will never pass a bill that includes the $15 minimum wage. The bill will leave the conference committee without it, otherwise the bill would die in the second Senate vote, and when it does get sent out, the House will pass it in their second vote anyway. The Democrats are not going to be willing to kill the entire bill over this.

Nor should they be. Getting the relief bill passed is essential.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Virginia to Remove Jefferson Davis’ name from Route 1, rename those portions Emancipation Highway

Pelosi to go on with the minimum wage increase anyway

Wait what the fuck? Based Pelosi!?

We're no longer in the dark timeline. We've entered the bonkers timeline.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

$15 minimum wage became ungettable almost a year ago, when Covid hit.

Indexation of the minimum wage is the go. It does nothing for a year or so, but its beneficial effect is indefinite into the future. And slip in a smaller baseline raise, some time between now and 2024. Not $15, but maybe $10 legislated on the same future trajectory as the $15.

Yeah. $10 minimum wage. It's a round number, that alone is enough to sell it.

[San Lumen]

Virginia to Remove Jefferson Davis’ name from Route 1, rename those portions Emancipation Highway

Maryland is doing something similar with the Indian Head highway. Legislation has been introduced to be renamed the Barack Obama Highway.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

Pelosi to go on with the minimum wage increase anyway

Wait what the fuck? Based Pelosi!?

We're no longer in the dark timeline. We've entered the bonkers timeline.

Bonkers indeed. The Senate is a boat that should not be rocked. Pelosi dipping her oar, is bad seamanship indeed.

Pelosi is not an idiot. This is a bluff.

[Omniabstracta]

$15 minimum wage became ungettable almost a year ago, when Covid hit.

Indexation of the minimum wage is the go. It does nothing for a year or so, but its beneficial effect is indefinite into the future. And slip in a smaller baseline raise, some time between now and 2024. Not $15, but maybe $10 legislated on the same future trajectory as the $15.

Yeah. $10 minimum wage. It's a round number, that alone is enough to sell it.

A ten dollar minimum wage, even later pegged to inflation, solves few if any of the problems that a minimum wage increase is designed to solve, especially if placed on the same time scale as the $15 increase. The whole issue is that a $15 minimum wage is already far behind what it should have been by now, with regards to relative productivity and inflation.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

$15 minimum wage became ungettable almost a year ago, when Covid hit.

Indexation of the minimum wage is the go. It does nothing for a year or so, but its beneficial effect is indefinite into the future. And slip in a smaller baseline raise, some time between now and 2024. Not $15, but maybe $10 legislated on the same future trajectory as the $15.

Yeah. $10 minimum wage. It's a round number, that alone is enough to sell it.

Bro $10 is just $1 less than what I make now.

I live paycheck to paycheck, even with my mom making $16. Some sleazebag politician tries to give me a $10 minimum wage like it's some kind of compromise and I'll bite their hand off. It's not a compromise. Hell, $15 isn't even close to what minimum wage workers should be getting. But if that's as far as we can push those scumbags in D.C. to go then I'll take it for the moment. All I know is most blue collar workers in America aren't making what they should be and anything that draws us closer to getting paid what our labor is actually worth (i.e. a living wage) is a net positive.

[The Republic of Fore]

No Congress should not have that power.

Why not? Canada has it and they are not a tyranny last time I checked.

Because congress is populated by worthless slime that will sell their principles to be more popular. Court decisions should be appealed , and that's it.

[San Lumen]

Why not? Canada has it and they are not a tyranny last time I checked.

Because congress is populated by worthless slime that will sell their principles to be more popular. Court decisions should be appealed , and that's it.

Yes you have every right to appeal a decision until you reach the either the state supreme court or US Supreme Court.

[The Republic of Fore]

$15 minimum wage became ungettable almost a year ago, when Covid hit.

Indexation of the minimum wage is the go. It does nothing for a year or so, but its beneficial effect is indefinite into the future. And slip in a smaller baseline raise, some time between now and 2024. Not $15, but maybe $10 legislated on the same future trajectory as the $15.

Yeah. $10 minimum wage. It's a round number, that alone is enough to sell it.

Bro $10 is just $1 less than what I make now.

I live paycheck to paycheck, even with my mom making $16. Some sleazebag politician tries to give me a $10 minimum wage like it's some kind of compromise and I'll bite their hand off. It's not a compromise. Hell, $15 isn't even close to what minimum wage workers should be getting. But if that's as far as we can push those scumbags in D.C. to go then I'll take it for the moment. All I know is most blue collar workers in America aren't making what they should be and anything that draws us closer to getting paid what our labor is actually worth (i.e. a living wage) is a net positive.

People are paid what they're worth. Most minimum wage jobs could be done by a monkey. There's no reason to waste 15 an hour on a burger flipper, at that point just get a machine to do it.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Bro $10 is just $1 less than what I make now.

I live paycheck to paycheck, even with my mom making $16. Some sleazebag politician tries to give me a $10 minimum wage like it's some kind of compromise and I'll bite their hand off. It's not a compromise. Hell, $15 isn't even close to what minimum wage workers should be getting. But if that's as far as we can push those scumbags in D.C. to go then I'll take it for the moment. All I know is most blue collar workers in America aren't making what they should be and anything that draws us closer to getting paid what our labor is actually worth (i.e. a living wage) is a net positive.

People are paid what they're worth. Most minimum wage jobs could be done by a monkey. There's no reason to waste 15 an hour on a burger flipper, at that point just get a machine to do it.

I won't lie to you, bub. If you don't think a working class person--regardless of their occupation--shouldn't be paid a living wage then you need to reevaluate your moral compass.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Bro $10 is just $1 less than what I make now.

I live paycheck to paycheck, even with my mom making $16. Some sleazebag politician tries to give me a $10 minimum wage like it's some kind of compromise and I'll bite their hand off. It's not a compromise. Hell, $15 isn't even close to what minimum wage workers should be getting. But if that's as far as we can push those scumbags in D.C. to go then I'll take it for the moment. All I know is most blue collar workers in America aren't making what they should be and anything that draws us closer to getting paid what our labor is actually worth (i.e. a living wage) is a net positive.

People are paid what they're worth. Most minimum wage jobs could be done by a monkey. There's no reason to waste 15 an hour on a burger flipper, at that point just get a machine to do it.

I endorse this post above, except for the Monkey part.

[Umeria]

People are paid what they're worth.

citation needed

[Diahon]

Bro $10 is just $1 less than what I make now.

I live paycheck to paycheck, even with my mom making $16. Some sleazebag politician tries to give me a $10 minimum wage like it's some kind of compromise and I'll bite their hand off. It's not a compromise. Hell, $15 isn't even close to what minimum wage workers should be getting. But if that's as far as we can push those scumbags in D.C. to go then I'll take it for the moment. All I know is most blue collar workers in America aren't making what they should be and anything that draws us closer to getting paid what our labor is actually worth (i.e. a living wage) is a net positive.

People are paid what they're worth. Most minimum wage jobs could be done by a monkey. There's no reason to waste 15 an hour on a burger flipper, at that point just get a machine to do it.

uh huh

apart from the fact that an expensive piece of groundbreaking machinery ain't exactly a monkey, about that burger-flipping literal slave not-monkey... turns out hominids are still indispensable