American Politics IV: 1400 Reasons Why(A Stimulus Serial)

[The Black Forrest]

In a totally unforeseen twist, the US found that Prince bin Salman ordered Kashoggi’s murder

I’ll link the report itself as soon as the site decides
to work

Wasn’t that the report the ex-president had buried?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47182567

[The Black Forrest]

Another good reason why this country needs universal healthcare.

Absolutely. It's an example of how left wing reforms need to be systemic in order to be sensible.

You either need right wing cameronite welfare reform to prevent this shit, or universal healthcare. Otherwise the minimum wage rise is going to fuck over thousands of people.

IIRC the $15 wage increase was supposed to be rolled in to give people time to adjust versus “Good morning; salaries are now...”

[Kowani]

In a totally unforeseen twist, the US found that Prince bin Salman ordered Kashoggi’s murder

I’ll link the report itself as soon as the site decides
to work

Wasn’t that the report the ex-president had buried?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47182567

Yes it was

[Zurkerx]

In a totally unforeseen twist, the US found that Prince bin Salman ordered Kashoggi’s murder

I’ll link the report itself as soon as the site decides
to work

Wasn’t that the report the ex-president had buried?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47182567

Yes so essentially, it confirms what we all already knew: that MBS ordered the killing of Khashoggi and the Trump Administration covered it up. Can't say we're surprised. The release of this report though will certainly anger the Saudis.

[Kowani]

A very dear friend of mine is very upset over the proposed minimum wage increase.

She has previously negotiated a pay cut with her boss to remain under the cut off point for state aid and the proposed increase will take her above it and force her to pay for her own health insurance (Which she absolutely, desperately needs, but would be laughably expensive for her to cover on her own), resulting in her having to quit her job.

This is something that should really have been addressed simultaneously through welfare reforms akin to the ones discussed in the UK Cameron government (though ideally not implemented as poorly). (I.E, "Work should always pay" and tapering off state aid incrementally).

She supports the increase in principle but her life is basically going to get ridiculously more difficult as a result of it and It strikes me that she's probably not alone. There are probably people for whom the wage increase is absolutely not worth being pushed above the state aid cutoff point.

Ostro, did your friend take into account the healthcare expansion that’s also part of the bill?

[Omniabstracta]

Apparently, one of the CPAC speakers is part of a Japanese cult that believes its leader is the reincarnation of an alien from Venus who created life on earth millions of years ago who channels the power of various gods and public figures

And this is why you shouldn't do drugs

Perhaps the Republicans are so in favor of banning the good stuff so they can keep them all for themselves, y’know.

[Greater Miami Shores]

You would be surprised what many right wingers say about leftists in American terms, they are very similar, but based on different opinions. I know this from reading and posting on right wing news sites. We also post to leftists in American terms.

Not sure what your point is.

Many of the criticisms of both sides views and opinions are very similar. A few examples Ted Cruz's Trip to Cancun Mexico. Democrat Governors and Mayors saying wear masks, don't eat in restaurants while they have been caught on videos not wearing masks and eating out in restaurants, I don't have to provide a link, it is very well documented and known.

Political criticisms and Hypocrisy of Republican and Democrat Politicians. Democrat Nancy Pelosi, made a statement inciting violence, on those certain few leftist protestors protesting violently in Democrat run cities with Democrat Mayors

“I just don’t even know why there aren’t uprisings all over the country. Maybe there will be.”

I say certain few because most leftist protestors protested peacefully not violently and most right wing protestors protested peacefully and patriotically as President Trump asked them to do.

There are more examples on this link.

If I have repeated certain words again, it is because there are few ways to say the same effectively, not because I want to.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021 ... -violence/

[Kowani]

City Council of Atlanta: We’re gonna give part of the street in front of the legislature so they can provide security
Mayor Bottoms: I veto!
City Council: Well we override your veto!
Mayor Bottoms: lmao no

[Genivaria]

Apparently, one of the CPAC speakers is part of a Japanese cult that believes its leader is the reincarnation of an alien from Venus who created life on earth millions of years ago who channels the power of various gods and public figures

The GOP is beyond parody.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

She has previously negotiated a pay cut with her boss to remain under the cut off point for state aid and the proposed increase will take her above it and force her to pay for her own health insurance (Which she absolutely, desperately needs, but would be laughably expensive for her to cover on her own), resulting in her having to quit her job.

Let me stop you there. Your friend had to quit her job, because the package of wages and benefits her employer was prepared to offer, was less than the package of welfare and benefits the government offered?

So she went from (maybe) 20 hours a week, to Zero hours a week, with a raise?

Look out capitalist scum. Big Government is gonna take all your jobs!

[Greater Miami Shores]

She has previously negotiated a pay cut with her boss to remain under the cut off point for state aid and the proposed increase will take her above it and force her to pay for her own health insurance (Which she absolutely, desperately needs, but would be laughably expensive for her to cover on her own), resulting in her having to quit her job.

Let me stop you there. Your friend had to quit her job, because the package of wages and benefits her employer was prepared to offer, was less than the package of welfare and benefits the government offered?

So she went from (maybe) 20 hours a week, to Zero hours a week, with a raise?

Look out capitalist scum. Big Government is gonna take all your jobs!

The point here is she quit her job because she could get more money $ and or benefits from the Big Government for not working, not producing and doing nothing, at working taxpayers $ expense.

[Alcala-Cordel]

^^^

The answer here is really fucking simple lol, landlords can pound sand

and they will get the police to forcibly evict everyone in the building.

So if you don't like cops or landlords...

[Genivaria]

Then perhaps a homelessness crisis shouldn't be allowed to happen.

It shouldn't but it court rules the eviction moratorium unconstitutional what do you suggest happen?

People are being evicted even against court orders. Don't pretend the court is on your side here.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

Let me stop you there. Your friend had to quit her job, because the package of wages and benefits her employer was prepared to offer, was less than the package of welfare and benefits the government offered?

So she went from (maybe) 20 hours a week, to Zero hours a week, with a raise?

Look out capitalist scum. Big Government is gonna take all your jobs!

The point here is she quit her job because she could get more money $ and or benefits from the Big Government for not working, not producing and doing nothing, at working taxpayers $ expense.

Correct. She could have negotiated even less hours with her employer, to stay under the government threshold. But either she didn't think of that, or her employer wouldn't do the deal.

You cannot blame the government for providing the safety net. So you have to blame her. Or her employer.

However you cut it, government is not to blame. This is big government how I like it: big hearted. Not trying to shift the blame to anyone else. Just doing what has to be done, when the private sector fails.

BTW, yes, sometimes, on some issues, I AM a socialist.

[Kowani]

In a totally unforeseen twist, the US found that Prince bin Salman ordered Kashoggi’s murder

I’ll link the report itself as soon as the site decides
to work

It works now

Short thing, too

[Saiwania]

A very dear friend of mine is very upset over the proposed minimum wage increase.

...She supports the increase in principle but her life is basically going to get ridiculously more difficult as a result of it and It strikes me that she's probably not alone. There are probably people for whom the wage increase is absolutely not worth being pushed above the state aid cutoff point.

Well, one argument people might have is: why don't she obtain some skills and qualify for far above the minimum wage in terms of wages so that she can eventually afford to pay more of everything herself? Is she just a loser or less capable in some way, if she only aspires to be on government assistance for life and be subject to the whims of whoever happens to be in power in Washington DC?

People normally are impressed more with those who take fuller responsibility for their life and proactively do the work/efforts needed to actually become rich or make some economic progress over time than they would if they do nothing or grow content with their present circumstances if they're not already doing well.

[Zul-ar]

A very dear friend of mine is very upset over the proposed minimum wage increase.

...She supports the increase in principle but her life is basically going to get ridiculously more difficult as a result of it and It strikes me that she's probably not alone. There are probably people for whom the wage increase is absolutely not worth being pushed above the state aid cutoff point.

Well, one argument people might have is: why don't she obtain some skills and qualify for far above the minimum wage in terms of wages so that she can eventually afford to pay more of everything herself? Is she just a loser or less capable in some way, if she only aspires to be on government assistance for life and be subject to the whims of whoever happens to be in power in Washington DC?

People normally are impressed more with those who take fuller responsibility for their life and proactively do the work/efforts needed to actually become rich or better off over time than they would if they do nothing or grow content with their present lot in life.

Ah, yes, she should pick a skill out of the "Free Skills" bucket like everyone else...

[Greater Miami Shores]

The point here is she quit her job because she could get more money $ and or benefits from the Big Government for not working, not producing and doing nothing, at working taxpayers $ expense.

Correct. She could have negotiated even less hours with her employer, to stay under the government threshold. But either she didn't think of that, or her employer wouldn't do the deal.

You cannot blame the government for providing the safety net. So you have to blame her. Or her employer.

However you cut it, government is not to blame. This is big government how I like it: big hearted. Not trying to shift the blame to anyone else. Just doing what has to be done, when the private sector fails.

BTW, yes, sometimes, on some issues, I AM a socialist.

I and we blame the government for providing the reasons and excuses I stated.

[Kowani]

Biden rescinds Trump memo allowing the Defense Secretary to ban unions

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

A very dear friend of mine is very upset over the proposed minimum wage increase.

...She supports the increase in principle but her life is basically going to get ridiculously more difficult as a result of it and It strikes me that she's probably not alone. There are probably people for whom the wage increase is absolutely not worth being pushed above the state aid cutoff point.

Well, one argument people might have is: why don't she obtain some skills and qualify for far above the minimum wage in terms of wages so that she can eventually afford to pay more of everything herself? Is she just a loser or less capable in some way, if she only aspires to be on government assistance for life and be subject to the whims of whoever happens to be in power in Washington DC?

People normally are impressed more with those who take fuller responsibility for their life and proactively do the work/efforts needed to actually become rich or make some economic progress over time than they would if they do nothing or grow content with their present circumstances if they're not already doing well.

Not to be personal, but you personally don't seem to have invested a lot of time or money into developing your own skills.

Personally, I have chosen my own epitaph already: "Tubes was a tragic waste of talent". I like to think it will repel mourners from my grave, and give them a kick up the bum to follow their own dreams.

[Thermodolia]

City Council of Atlanta: We’re gonna give part of the street in front of the legislature so they can provide security
Mayor Bottoms: I veto!
City Council: Well we override your veto!
Mayor Bottoms: lmao no

Apparently Andrew Jackson has returned as the Mayor of Atlanta

[Greater Miami Shores]

Well, one argument people might have is: why don't she obtain some skills and qualify for far above the minimum wage in terms of wages so that she can eventually afford to pay more of everything herself? Is she just a loser or less capable in some way, if she only aspires to be on government assistance for life and be subject to the whims of whoever happens to be in power in Washington DC?

People normally are impressed more with those who take fuller responsibility for their life and proactively do the work/efforts needed to actually become rich or make some economic progress over time than they would if they do nothing or grow content with their present circumstances if they're not already doing well.

Not to be personal, but you personally don't seem to have invested a lot of time or money into developing your own skills.

Personally, I have chosen my own epitaph already: "Tubes was a tragic waste of talent". I like to think it will repel mourners from my grave, and give them a kick up the bum to follow their own dreams.

The wage increase would increase costs and prices as well, probably higher than current costs and prices on average as it relates to proportional income.

Do what I am going to do, I plan to be on NS forever from beyond the grave, I will haunt anyone I need too and want too.

[Kowani]

Virginia to Remove Jefferson Davis’ name from Route 1, rename those portions Emancipation Highway

[Saiwania]

Not to be personal, but you personally don't seem to have invested a lot of time or money into developing your own skills.

Its fair criticism if its a genuine shortcoming I have. Its harder to learn an in demand skill if you lack money or clear direction on what to do. But I will if I ever figure out how to execute on it. Some people are just very risk adverse if they've been burned before. So many ways to obtain an employable skill either are scams or cost too much money or time, to make it so that someone probably has to temporarily take on work nobody else wants to do and save up or budget for taking a risk if they're unskilled.

Sometimes becoming employed is as simple as moving, but there is often a fear of moving if it just isn't where your family/friends are; but people just got to get over that if where they live has absolutely no prospects or vacancies anywhere. A lot of places that don't want to deal with their homeless supposedly just give them free one way bus tickets to go out of town or out of state so they're someone else's problem or they find work more readily elsewhere. It depends on what someone can do.

Some professions, have so much leverage because the product is so necessary or in demand that unemployment will never ever be a problem for them practically speaking, such as if someone is a Dentist. At worst, they just have to move to where there is less competition; because chances are there are always people who'll need dental cleanings/procedures regardless of the location and thus people will pay them if they're accredited and can do the work.

In short, you need to become someone who's needed and not just become what you think you want if that is just impractical or doesn't genuinely suit you well.

[Ostroeuropa]

She has previously negotiated a pay cut with her boss to remain under the cut off point for state aid and the proposed increase will take her above it and force her to pay for her own health insurance (Which she absolutely, desperately needs, but would be laughably expensive for her to cover on her own), resulting in her having to quit her job.

Let me stop you there. Your friend had to quit her job, because the package of wages and benefits her employer was prepared to offer, was less than the package of welfare and benefits the government offered?

So she went from (maybe) 20 hours a week, to Zero hours a week, with a raise?

Look out capitalist scum. Big Government is gonna take all your jobs!

You can't think of a reason why a single mother with a serious health condition might, you know.
Not work longer than 3 days a week?